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Cyrus Hobbi to USC

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:12 pm
by karlhungis
I saw it on twitter. Those sanctions sure are crippling the Trojans.

Re: Cyrus Hobbi to USC

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:04 pm
by greenyellow
karlhungis wrote:I saw it on twitter. Those sanctions sure are crippling the Trojans.
USC is using every loophole available to them until their sanction appeal is finally done.

Re: Cyrus Hobbi to USC

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:13 pm
by sx1080
greenyellow wrote:
karlhungis wrote:I saw it on twitter. Those sanctions sure are crippling the Trojans.
USC is using every loophole available to them until their sanction appeal is finally done.

Lane is smart. NCAA is toothless. Newton, Pryor, Bush. untouchable.

Re: Cyrus Hobbi to USC

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:55 pm
by greenyellow
sx1080 wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
karlhungis wrote:I saw it on twitter. Those sanctions sure are crippling the Trojans.
USC is using every loophole available to them until their sanction appeal is finally done.

Lane is smart. NCAA is toothless. Newton, Pryor, Bush. untouchable.
The rules they have regarding recruiting have no teeth since there's no one really there to enforce them.

Re: Cyrus Hobbi to USC

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:00 pm
by uodux1212
greenyellow wrote:
sx1080 wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
karlhungis wrote:I saw it on twitter. Those sanctions sure are crippling the Trojans.
USC is using every loophole available to them until their sanction appeal is finally done.

Lane is smart. NCAA is toothless. Newton, Pryor, Bush. untouchable.
The rules they have regarding recruiting have no teeth since there's no one really there to enforce them.
Without subpoena power the NCAA will always be handcuffed....

Re: Cyrus Hobbi to USC

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:42 pm
by bellsduck
uodux1212 wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
sx1080 wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
karlhungis wrote:I saw it on twitter. Those sanctions sure are crippling the Trojans.
USC is using every loophole available to them until their sanction appeal is finally done.

Lane is smart. NCAA is toothless. Newton, Pryor, Bush. untouchable.
The rules they have regarding recruiting have no teeth since there's no one really there to enforce them.
Without subpoena power the NCAA will always be handcuffed....
That doesn't explain why it takes 4-8 weeks to judge an appeal where no new evidence is allowed to be given.

Kiffen must be telling these guys that since he won't be able to bring in any new recruits over the next few years, they'll have no competition and are guaranteed a starting spot for their entire tenure.

Re: Cyrus Hobbi to USC

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:52 pm
by rjfrik
Who cares. It's not like all these recruits aren't going to bite them in the ass on the back end. Go 8 guys over this year on your 15. Fine. Have fun with only being able to sign 7 recruits in 2014. LOL. I hope they keep signing people. How crippling to a program would it be if you could only sign like 5 guys in 2014. And by then I would bet at least 5-10 of these recruits in this class will be gone by going into the draft.

Re: Cyrus Hobbi to USC

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:26 pm
by glazeduck
It's hard for some to see things like this, but Hobbi to SC is a good thing for Oregon!

Every recruit that takes up a USC scholly that we didn't have a chance at getting means one less spot for them to take someone (like Dawson, Simmons, or Heyward) that we DO have a chance at getting.

Re: Cyrus Hobbi to USC

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:29 pm
by Braveheart
glazeduck wrote:It's hard for some to see things like this, but Hobbi to SC is a good thing for Oregon!

Every recruit that takes up a USC scholly that we didn't have a chance at getting means one less spot for them to take someone (like Dawson, Simmons, or Heyward) that we DO have a chance at getting.

Not this year.

Re: Cyrus Hobbi to USC

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:39 pm
by MacDuck
I'd rather see Hobbi at USC than ASU. Like the poster before said, everyone they get now helps w/the remaining targets we're both coveting, except Dawson is said to have eliminated USC altogether. We have a slim chance, but it looks to be coming down to a border battle between UK & Tenn.

The big question that is still out there is will USC stop at 20 which some believe makes their slim chance at winning the appeal appear better to the NCAA because they self imposed a loss of 5 on themselves even while under the appeal umbrella when they technically didn't have to? If they do stop at 20 then w/Hobbi coming aboard (ggod thing) and Lee being a Trojan just a formality, that puts them at 19. They could be at 17 if DT Grimble & LB Turene both opt elsewhere, but neither player has officially verballed anywhere else yet. IMO Turene is as good as gone. Trojans getting Hobbi today could actually be a good thing for Grimble as he's been set to look around because they wanted to switch him to OL. Maybe there's less push to do that now that Hobbi's aboard. Regardless, best to figure USC has 2-3 openings left if they're going to stop at 20. This won't help w/Simmons, but it could w/Heyward.

Re: Cyrus Hobbi to USC

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:41 pm
by glazeduck
Braveheart wrote:
glazeduck wrote:It's hard for some to see things like this, but Hobbi to SC is a good thing for Oregon!

Every recruit that takes up a USC scholly that we didn't have a chance at getting means one less spot for them to take someone (like Dawson, Simmons, or Heyward) that we DO have a chance at getting.

Not this year.
Actually, yes this year, and, for that matter, EVERY year. It's pretty simple mathematics actually. If you're planning on signing 50 players, Hobbi, being one of those 50 means you only have 49 to use on players the Ducks are going after, not 50.

Even if you guys somehow manage to take all of those guys, along with Lee, and Pomee, etc., etc., that's THAT MANY fewer spots you'll have next year - so my point remains, an SC commit that we don't have a shot at, is good for Oregon.

Re: Cyrus Hobbi to USC

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:47 pm
by Braveheart
glazeduck wrote:
Braveheart wrote:
glazeduck wrote:It's hard for some to see things like this, but Hobbi to SC is a good thing for Oregon!

Every recruit that takes up a USC scholly that we didn't have a chance at getting means one less spot for them to take someone (like Dawson, Simmons, or Heyward) that we DO have a chance at getting.

Not this year.
Actually, yes this year, and, for that matter, EVERY year. It's pretty simple mathematics actually. If you're planning on signing 50 players, Hobbi, being one of those 50 means you only have 49 to use on players the Ducks are going after, not 50.

Even if you guys somehow manage to take all of those guys, along with Lee, and Pomee, etc., etc., that's THAT MANY fewer spots you'll have next year - so my point remains, an SC commit that we don't have a shot at, is good for Oregon.
Lemme re-phrase my original comment, not for this recruiting class.