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With a Lockout in the NFL almost a certainty at this point. I have to wonder how much fallout this will have on the college ranks. I would think this would give kids second thoughts on going pro if there may not be a pro game to go to. Will this keep LMJ, Luck, and other college stars in college?

If there is any lock-out, it will not affect any of the kids still in school. It would be over by the time they will be ready to go pro.

Really only going to affect those that left early since they could be off for almost an season with no football. If that's the case, I could see some going to the CFL or possibly some returning to school to work on their degrees.

L Perry wrote:If there is any lock-out, it will not affect any of the kids still in school. It would be over by the time they will be ready to go pro.

Truth.

The thing that sucks is that these kids that went all-out on going pro early are going to get screwed if they have to sit out a year, and it's not like the NCAA can really let them back in because they've all missed susbstantial schoolwork at this point.

Oregonian wrote:The thing that sucks is that these kids that went all-out on going pro early are going to get screwed if they have to sit out a year, and it's not like the NCAA can really let them back in because they've all missed susbstantial schoolwork at this point.

They should have known there was the possibility of it happening! It is not like it was a big secret or something.

L Perry wrote:

Oregonian wrote:The thing that sucks is that these kids that went all-out on going pro early are going to get screwed if they have to sit out a year, and it's not like the NCAA can really let them back in because they've all missed susbstantial schoolwork at this point.

They should have known there was the possibility of it happening! It is not like it was a big secret or something.

They did know, but they also knew that this may be the last year without a rookie pay scale. The guys that went early this year wanted to get paid.

As for the thread, lockout will not effect two seasons. The only thing that could happen would be a rookie pay scale for the draft in the next draft(should have happened already..). The idiots will probably figure it out though....Just a hunch

TheMaehlMan wrote:

L Perry wrote:

Oregonian wrote:The thing that sucks is that these kids that went all-out on going pro early are going to get screwed if they have to sit out a year, and it's not like the NCAA can really let them back in because they've all missed susbstantial schoolwork at this point.

They should have known there was the possibility of it happening! It is not like it was a big secret or something.

They did know, but they also knew that this may be the last year without a rookie pay scale. The guys that went early this year wanted to get paid.

As for the thread, lockout will not effect two seasons. The only thing that could happen would be a rookie pay scale for the draft in the next draft(should have happened already..). The idiots will probably figure it out though....Just a hunch

Its not a given that this years rookie class will see the same salaries, which is why so many underclassmen went last year. I believe the amount of underclassmen in this years draft is even higher, but teams aren't obligated to sign them until a new CBA because they will still have their draft rights to that player, ie. no reason to sign the pick early. By most considerations a rookie pay scale will be included as it rightly should.

Another thing that looks likely to happen as well is increased rosters which is good for those fringe/practice squad players as it gives teams more bodies to practice with in addition to expanded gameday rosters.

Never fear, a lockout doesn't necessarily mean no season, the lockout will IMO be in place during OTA's and an agreement will be reached before training camp in August. The NFL saw what happened to the NHL and is riding it's highest popularity in history. The owners are greedy just not stupid.

r2fireduck wrote:Never fear, a lockout doesn't necessarily mean no season, the lockout will IMO be in place during OTA's and an agreement will be reached before training camp in August. The NFL saw what happened to the NHL and is riding it's highest popularity in history. The owners are greedy just not stupid.

The players aren't stupid enough either to sit out a full season and possibly not get paid.

Oregonian wrote:The thing that sucks is that these kids that went all-out on going pro early are going to get screwed if they have to sit out a year, and it's not like the NCAA can really let them back in because they've all missed susbstantial schoolwork at this point.

Isnt is also the case that if they signed with an agent, they couldnt return anyway?

ducksrock wrote:

Oregonian wrote:The thing that sucks is that these kids that went all-out on going pro early are going to get screwed if they have to sit out a year, and it's not like the NCAA can really let them back in because they've all missed susbstantial schoolwork at this point.

Isnt is also the case that if they signed with an agent, they couldnt return anyway?

Yep. There's nothing they really do if there is a strike. It does seem like the players union and NFL are trying to come to an agreement since they have set up a mediation session.

Can they not opt out of joining the players union and play for the NFL despite a lock-out?

I'm going to side with the owners on this. How much pay do these guys need to work out and play a game for part of the year? Sitting on the bench earns a player a six figure salary. It's not as if many of them are even remotely close to wanting to switch over to a non-sports job.

You could cite the dangers and physical wear and tear. But, then you would quickly be humbled by the salaries that police officers, soldiers and firefighters take in comparison.

wheaton4prez wrote:Can they not opt out of joining the players union and play for the NFL despite a lock-out?

I'm going to side with the owners on this. How much pay do these guys need to work out and play a game for part of the year? Sitting on the bench earns a player a six figure salary. It's not as if many of them are even remotely close to wanting to switch over to a non-sports job.

You could cite the dangers and physical wear and tear. But, then you would quickly be humbled by the salaries that police officers, soldiers and firefighters take in comparison.

I think we can all agree that athletes in pro sports get compensated ridiculously, but it is the nature of how the entertainment industry is set up. The fact is that professional sports such as the NFL generate ridiculous revenues..so why can't more of the pie go toward the players? Comparing this situation to what police officers/firefighters do just doesn't make sense, it is a shame though.

I don't sit on one side or the other concerning the CBA, but I do think there are some things that need to be changed. Sure, there are a lot of NFL players making great money, but there are many others that have very short careers. I don't have an answer as to how exactly we should help those players post-retirement, but I don't feel sorry for the owners. Basically, I think each side needs to concede some trade-offs and hopefully mediation works it out. Owners of teams that make less revenue better not be put out in the cold though, that is why I'm not totally against the owners.

Why doesn't more of the pie go back to the fans? Like instead of paying 5-6 bucks for a hot dog or 6-9 bucks for a beer,etc....