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According to Scout.com these are the 27 guys we have scholarship offers to for the 2012 recruiting class:
QB Matt Davis Houston, Texas 6'1" 198 ****
RB Rushel Shell Aliquippa, Pennsylvania 5'11" 215 *****
RB Matt Jones Seffner, Florida 6'3" 210 **** [Florida commit]
RB D.J. Foster Scottsdale, Arizona 6'0" 185 ***
RB Brian Kimbrow Memphis, Tennessee 5'8" 160 ***
WR Ricardo Louis Miami Beach, Florida 6'2" 200 ****
WR Darius Powe Lakewood, California 6'2" 186 ***
WR Derrick Woods Inglewood, California 5'11" 180 ***
TE Kent Taylor Land O' Lakes, Florida 6'5" 215 ***
TE Laith Harlow Tallahassee, Florida 6'5" 240 NR
T Erik Magnuson Encintas, California 6'6" 275 NR
T Kennedy Estelle Pearland, Texas 6'7" 305 ***
T Zach Banner Lakewood, Washington 6'9" 295 ****
T Vadal Alexander Buford, Georgia 6'5" 329 ****
T Andrus Peat Tempe, Arizona 6'7" 280 *****
G Johua Garnett Puyallup, Washington 6'5" 275 ****
DT Quay Evans 6'3" 300 ****
DT Tommy Schutt Glen Ellyn, Illinois 6'3" 290 **** (also could play guard)
DE Jarvis Lewis Glendale, Arizona 6'4" 240 NR (also could play TE)
DE Tyriq McCord Tampa, Florida 6'3" 210 NR (also could play TE)
DE Alex Balducci Portland, Oregon 6'3" 245 ***
DE Adolphus Washington Cincinnati, Ohio 6'6" 240 ****
OLB Jabari Ruffin Downey, California 6'4" 220 NR (could also play RB)
OLB Jeremiah Tshimanga Richland Hills, Texas 6'2" 220 ***
S Shaquille Thompson Sacramento, California 6'1" 180 ***** (could also play WR)
CB Tee Shepard Fresno, California 6'0" 172 ****
CB Elijah White Conway, Arkansas 5'9" 175 NR

Does anyone know much about these guys? Besides Davis and Thompson I don't know much about them.

The Ducks have only offered about 5 guys at this point. A few of the guys they have offered aren't even on that list.

I think they've probably offered more than 5, but definitely not the 27 like JustisM has. Some players don't probably understand the difference between a letter of interest and a written scholarship offer.

This is just what scout says I didn't make up this list haha

JustisM wrote:This is just what scout says I didn't make up this list haha

Wasn't saying you did. Scout has a tendency to not verify if the recruit does in fact have an offer; they tend to just go on the recruits' word.

Some players don't probably understand the difference between a letter of interest and a written scholarship offer.

this.

Wonder what happened to DT Eddie Goldman out of DC who was offered by the Ducks and has over 40 offers. He doesn't even have the us listed anymore. Hope he hasn't already eliminated the Ducks.

JustisM wrote:Does anyone know much about these guys? Besides Davis and Thompson I don't know much about them.

My brother used to play with Josh Garnett out of Puyallup High School (same school that produced the Huard brothers, Dane Looker, Billy Joe Hobert, and more recently, WR Justin Veltung of Idaho, and T Adam Grant of Arizona... you get the picture, it's a solid program...) so I've been watching the kid since he was in 7th grade. He could be an absolute monster at the next level. Big and quick enough to play anywhere on the line, and has pretty solid footwork. Seems like a very safe bet and the kid has a great personality too. Apparently he has been seen around school wearing both UW and Oregon gear, depending on the day, but I wouldn't read too much into that as it's very early.
I've seen Banner a few times and the man is just a GIANT. Absolutely dwarfs everyone at 6-9, and looks almost too big to play football. Comes from a very good program in Lakes High School that is consistently rated nationally. Has quick feet from playing basketball and is very coordinated for his size. Could have problems in the running game as he may not be able to get leverage consistently, but this problem might only surface at the NFL level or against elite D-linemen. If he keeps growing taller he could flame out and focus on basketball full-time, but if he works at it and stays at his current height, he could develop into a Jared Gaither-type blindside tackle.

SeattleDuck wrote:

JustisM wrote:Does anyone know much about these guys? Besides Davis and Thompson I don't know much about them.

My brother used to play with Josh Garnett out of Puyallup High School (same school that produced the Huard brothers, Dane Looker, Billy Joe Hobert, and more recently, WR Justin Veltung of Idaho, and T Adam Grant of Arizona... you get the picture, it's a solid program...) so I've been watching the kid since he was in 7th grade. He could be an absolute monster at the next level. Big and quick enough to play anywhere on the line, and has pretty solid footwork. Seems like a very safe bet and the kid has a great personality too. Apparently he has been seen around school wearing both UW and Oregon gear, depending on the day, but I wouldn't read too much into that as it's very early.
I've seen Banner a few times and the man is just a GIANT. Absolutely dwarfs everyone at 6-9, and looks almost too big to play football. Comes from a very good program in Lakes High School that is consistently rated nationally. Has quick feet from playing basketball and is very coordinated for his size. Could have problems in the running game as he may not be able to get leverage consistently, but this problem might only surface at the NFL level or against elite D-linemen. If he keeps growing taller he could flame out and focus on basketball full-time, but if he works at it and stays at his current height, he could develop into a Jared Gaither-type blindside tackle.

I have a feeling that both end up at UW, just because of their ability to keep local products home, but Oregon has as good of shot at any due to their ability to develop OL and the quality of the program when compared to UW at the moment.

to be honest, i'm not sure i want a 6-9 OL but that's just me

hines wrote:to be honest, i'm not sure i want a 6-9 OL but that's just me

I don't think I would want one either because a good DL could easily get under their pad level and cause havoc. Also, throws to the outside may be a little harder with a shorter QB.

greenyellow wrote:

hines wrote:to be honest, i'm not sure i want a 6-9 OL but that's just me

I don't think I would want one either because a good DL could easily get under their pad level and cause havoc. Also, throws to the outside may be a little harder with a shorter QB.

It all depends on the player though. Jonathan Ogden was arguably the best tackle to ever play the game at any level and stood 6'9". Now he's a once in a lifetime player and I'm not comparing Banner to him, but there are several others that have had success like Jared Gaither and Nate Solder. And with the caliber of football player that Banner is, I'd be more than happy to take his skill-set. If the coaches like him enough now to offer him this early, I'm fine with it. And if they don't like his progression down the road, he won't see the depth chart and it won't be an issue.

greenyellow wrote:

hines wrote:to be honest, i'm not sure i want a 6-9 OL but that's just me

I don't think I would want one either because a good DL could easily get under their pad level and cause havoc. Also, throws to the outside may be a little harder with a shorter QB.

While 6'9" certainly doesn't sound as advantageous in the passing game, it could do wonders in the running game.

UOducksTK1 wrote:

greenyellow wrote:

hines wrote:to be honest, i'm not sure i want a 6-9 OL but that's just me

I don't think I would want one either because a good DL could easily get under their pad level and cause havoc. Also, throws to the outside may be a little harder with a shorter QB.

While 6'9" certainly doesn't sound as advantageous in the passing game, it could do wonders in the running game.

With him being a BB player, he probably does have some agility to move around in space like Oregon does with its OL.

Haven't researched Banner at all so I wonder if he has been to any camps where he has to face some top notch competition in drills, etc? If he holds up fine in drills vs elite level DEs, then he'll be fine in college.