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Can someone tell me why I have not heard anything about him as an NFL prospect?
No mention of combine, pro- day... Nothing.
Was he not one of our better pro prospects?

Yes and No. Rowe has had a marginal draft campaign. Had a pedestrian Senior Bowl practice week then was all over the place in the game. Performed about average at his pro day it sounds like.

For his size, he's not especially fast, strong or explosive - by NFL Draft standards. He's also seen as a 'tweener'. He's not big enough to be an ideal fit as an every-down DE in most pro systems, and he's nothing special in pas coverage as an OLB (where he would ONLY be a fit in a 3-4 scheme).

Think of him as a rich man's Nick Reed. He's in a similar situation, probably will have a career along that arc and will have to approach the game similarly (using leverage, smarts, hard work, rather than insane physical skills.)

The NFL draft is ALL about potential. The guys that are drafted high are the ones with the most potential to be beasts. This is why you see so many solid contributers drafted in the late rounds and as undrafted free agents, and they almost always have one thing in common - average athletically and size-wise, but good, solid, smart football players. Similarly, this is why we also see so many superstars and busts in the first few rounds - because they're bigger, faster, stronger and have the potential to become something special - some put in the work and reach that level, others take their gifts for granted and, given their status as a high draft pick and lofty salary, become busts.

But I digress, unfortunately, guys like Reed and Rowe are limited in the potential department on NFL standards. They may very well carve out nice careers in the league, but neither look to be superstars in the making.

Look for Rowe to be a 6th or 7th round selection most likely. Another big reason why he looks like such a marginal prospect is the depth at DE and rush LB this year and in the recent past. This year there are easily 7 or 8 of those 'stud' type guys that will go early, and that's been the trend these last few years. Because Rowe's not in this group, he almost automatically becomes a 'project' player, and very few, if any teams will use a draft pick of much value on a 'project' with as limited upside as Rowe has.

Other Ducks with better chances are Bair (my guess is he'll go somewhere between the late 2nd and early 4th), Matthews (probably somewhere in the 3rd due to scarcity at MLB) and Maehl (probably a 4th or 5th rounder.) Don't be shocked to se Javes taken somewhere in the 6th or 7th as well...

I think he's more like a poor mans Nick Reed.... I believe Reed was more productive and about 20lbs heavier.

Boom wrote:I think he's more like a poor mans Nick Reed.... I believe Reed was more productive and about 20lbs heavier.

Based solely on size and production I'd agree with you.

As a draft prospect, Rowe has better explosion, athleticism and versatility. At least he has the "pass rush specialist" moniker to his name, Reed was viewed almost solely as a special teamer to begin with. It was only after he showed his work ethic and tireless motor in camp and preseason that he got any real consideration as a position player.

Of the two, I'd say he has a marginally better chance to do something notable in the league.

If he was at the combine he would be much much higher.

jimmy12 wrote:Can someone tell me why I have not heard anything about him as an NFL prospect?
No mention of combine, pro- day... Nothing.
Was he not one of our better pro prospects?

1. because he's not much of one. free agent at best and nothing but a special teamer out of the gate
2. not invited to combine. old news. pro-day was yesterday. read the RG. so no, not nothing.
3. no. no idea why you thought that. damn good college player playing as an undersized DE does not, nor ever has, made a good pro prospect.

hines wrote:

jimmy12 wrote:Can someone tell me why I have not heard anything about him as an NFL prospect?
No mention of combine, pro- day... Nothing.
Was he not one of our better pro prospects?

1. because he's not much of one. free agent at best and nothing but a special teamer out of the gate
2. not invited to combine. old news. pro-day was yesterday. read the RG. so no, not nothing.
3. no. no idea why you thought that. damn good college player playing as an undersized DE does not, nor ever has, made a good pro prospect.

Dwight Freeney and Elvis Dumervil kindly ask you to quit posting on here if/when Rowe gets drafted.

glazeduck wrote:

Boom wrote:I think he's more like a poor mans Nick Reed.... I believe Reed was more productive and about 20lbs heavier.

Based solely on size and production I'd agree with you.

As a draft prospect, Rowe has better explosion, athleticism and versatility. At least he has the "pass rush specialist" moniker to his name, Reed was viewed almost solely as a special teamer to begin with. It was only after he showed his work ethic and tireless motor in camp and preseason that he got any real consideration as a position player.

Of the two, I'd say he has a marginally better chance to do something notable in the league.

Actually I think Reed was the more athletic one....



http://www2.registerguard.com/cms/index ... t-pro-day/
4.71-second 40-yard dash, the best of any of the linemen at the workout. Scouts also clocked Reed at 6.96 seconds in the three-cone drill

http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=699283 ... in-pro-day
Kenny Rowe ran the 40-yard dash in 4.86 seconds and the three-cone drill in 7.32 seconds




Reed was also considered a pass rush specialist at Seattle until his season end foot injury....

Yeah but Reed is white. So he's not athletic.

dthomas=ddixon wrote:Yeah but Reed is white. So he's not athletic.

Duck07 wrote:

hines wrote:

jimmy12 wrote:Can someone tell me why I have not heard anything about him as an NFL prospect?
No mention of combine, pro- day... Nothing.
Was he not one of our better pro prospects?

1. because he's not much of one. free agent at best and nothing but a special teamer out of the gate
2. not invited to combine. old news. pro-day was yesterday. read the RG. so no, not nothing.
3. no. no idea why you thought that. damn good college player playing as an undersized DE does not, nor ever has, made a good pro prospect.

Dwight Freeney and Elvis Dumervil kindly ask you to quit posting on here if/when Rowe gets drafted.

yes, because when one thinks of Kenny, we think of a 1st rd pick and a 4th round pick. good lord.

kenny is undersized with weight and speed. love the kid. was fantastic for us, but if he gets drafted, i'd be pretty surprised.

kenny listed at 6-3. he's not. listed at 232...maybe yes. dude needs about 20 or so lbs. on him. he's got LB weight. not good for a college DE