USC: The Dream is Over

Greenblood · Post by **Greenblood** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:49 am

Sorry -- just can't help myself here. All that preseason hype, Mr. Barkley's "unfinished business" . . . it's all gone. I mean, all of that was probably effectively gone after their loss to the Cardinal, but their NC dreams still hadn't received the knockout blow. Now they have. And with Barkley gone next year, and the effect of the sanctions probably taking hold even more on them . . . it might just be a few years, even with continued great recruiting classes, for them to be a factor in the national picture again. And I also wonder if, at some point, it will become clear even to the SC faithful that Kiffin just isn't that great of a football coach. And related to that, perhaps it will also begin to dawn on recruits that USC may not be the place to fulfill their dreams after all . . .

Post by **Bud Lee** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:29 am

That loss hurt you all a lot, with USC and Little brother dropping out of the top ten and losing to unranked opponents your strength of scedule and hopes for a "signature" win against an opponent ranked in single digits has also gone out the door last night. I hate to say it, but Notre Dame or Kansas State may end up jumping y'all before this is over.

Post by **Bud Lee** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:06 am

Biggus Duckus wrote:I'm actually hoping we play UCLA in the conference championship now.

To me playin a what will hopefully be a two loss UCLA for the first time would be your best matchup...much better than paying what could be a three loss USC or a Arizona for a second time.

Greenblood · Post by **Greenblood** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:24 am

Bud Lee wrote:That loss hurt you all a lot, with USC and Little brother dropping out of the top ten and losing to unranked opponents your strength of scedule and hopes for a "signature" win against an opponent ranked in single digits has also gone out the door last night. I hate to say it, but Notre Dame or Kansas State may end up jumping y'all before this is over.

Our SOS goes up nicely from Arizona and Washington beating top 10 opponents, so the Ducks' will get a lift from those two games, and STILL most likely get a decent bump when we face the Trojans and later the Beavers. (Also remember: When USC or Stanford lose to another Duck opponent, that hurts ND's ultimate SOS WITHOUT hurting the Ducks'.) As far as a "signature win" goes for the voters in the coaches' and Harris polls, you could be right, but we need to see the rest of the season play itself out. The Beavers could still win their remainder before they meet the Ducks and be back in the top 10 at Civil War time.

Braveheart · Post by **Braveheart** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:26 pm

That dream is over, but there's time for new dreams...starting next week.

karlhungis · Post by **karlhungis** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:30 pm

Braveheart wrote:That dream is over, but there's time for new dreams...starting next week.

You guys going to get up for us like your superbowl against colorado?

Braveheart · Post by **Braveheart** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:36 pm

karlhungis wrote:
Braveheart wrote:That dream is over, but there's time for new dreams...starting next week.
You guys going to get up for us like your superbowl against colorado?

Colorado? You mean Alabama?

Phenom · Post by **Phenom** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:39 pm

Braveheart wrote:
karlhungis wrote:
Braveheart wrote:That dream is over, but there's time for new dreams...starting next week.
You guys going to get up for us like your superbowl against colorado?

Colorado? You mean Alabama?

Well played, bro.

pezsez1 · Post by **pezsez1** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:19 pm

I'm actually hoping we play UCLA in the conference championship now.

I was wondering who the best team for us to face in the Pac-12 title game might be. Probably UCLA, or maybe Arizona? I would think getting a win over UCLA would give us more leverage in the computer programs.

Pretty sure the Pac-12 has five teams ranked in the AP poll... crazy that our conference doesn't get more respect, especially given how nicely our teams cleaned up against teams from other conferences, including Wisconsin and Oklahoma State.

AutzenMember · Post by **AutzenMember** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:35 pm

pezsez1 wrote:
I'm actually hoping we play UCLA in the conference championship now.
I was wondering who the best team for us to face in the Pac-12 title game might be. Probably UCLA, or maybe Arizona? I would think getting a win over UCLA would give us more leverage in the computer programs.

Pretty sure the Pac-12 has five teams ranked in the AP poll... crazy that our conference doesn't get more respect, especially given how nicely our teams cleaned up against teams from other conferences, including Wisconsin and Oklahoma State.

We'd get more respect if every team played 4 patsies and only 8 conference games like the SEC. Then, our out-of-conference record would look MUCH better (more games, more wins). We'd also have to schedule more home games against those easy teams, never leaving our home stadiums. Also, nobody would be able to judge us outside of our conference games..."we're just so tough, we keep beating each other up...but we won all our non-conference games". That's how you get more teams from one conference in the top 10.

Post by **Bud Lee** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:54 am

AutzenMember wrote:
pezsez1 wrote:
I'm actually hoping we play UCLA in the conference championship now.
I was wondering who the best team for us to face in the Pac-12 title game might be. Probably UCLA, or maybe Arizona? I would think getting a win over UCLA would give us more leverage in the computer programs.

Pretty sure the Pac-12 has five teams ranked in the AP poll... crazy that our conference doesn't get more respect, especially given how nicely our teams cleaned up against teams from other conferences, including Wisconsin and Oklahoma State.
We'd get more respect if every team played 4 patsies and only 8 conference games like the SEC. Then, our out-of-conference record would look MUCH better (more games, more wins). We'd also have to schedule more home games against those easy teams, never leaving our home stadiums. Also, nobody would be able to judge us outside of our conference games..."we're just so tough, we keep beating each other up...but we won all our non-conference games". That's how you get more teams from one conference in the top 10.

Is a shame that you came to know the truths dark side with only a year left in the BCS....

duckduckgoose · Post by **duckduckgoose** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:27 am

Braveheart wrote:
karlhungis wrote:
Braveheart wrote:That dream is over, but there's time for new dreams...starting next week.
You guys going to get up for us like your superbowl against colorado?

Colorado? You mean Alabama?

After kicking the crap out of Alabama, I can see why you shat the bed against Arizona!

buckmarkduck · Post by **buckmarkduck** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:55 pm

At this point if I was a SC fan, I would be rooting for Kiffin to get his ass kicked weekly. He is, outside of Emery, the worst HC in the conference right now IMO. The guy only cares about recruiting and useless personal awards, he's not a winner. Drop Kelly into SC and may never lose a game, not that he would take the gig, but you get the point.