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Gilbert Arenas PG 20 6'4'' 191 B- B- B- C D A
Gerald Wallace SF 19 6'7'' 215 C+ C C B C B

Only improvements on a team with 7 first round picks from the last 3 seasons. And 5 of the guys are lottery picks. I guess my drafting skills suck lol.

Hedo Turkoglu no improvement, Courtney Alexander no improvement, Mike Bibby worse, Mirsad Turkcan worse, Andrei Kirilenko same,

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Weird camp.

Mostly good, though for some weird reason almost all of my non-point guards got a -1 in Handles?

Parker with a +3, but really a +4 with a -1 in REB which is the least important PG stat.
Harvey with a +3 as well
Bradley and Stevenson with a +2 each, then a bunch of +1s.
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Not bad
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Vlade Divac C 33 7'1'' 243 C+ C- C A B+ C
Vlade Divac C 33 7'1'' 243 C+ C- C A B+ C
No change, much needed presence in the paint

Nazr Mohammed C 24 6'10'' 221 B+ C- D A- B+ B
Nazr Mohammed C 24 6'10'' 221 B+ C- D- A- B+ B
No change, hoping he improvement behind the hood though

Isaac Austin C 32 6'10'' 255 C C- D+ A- A- D
Isaac Austin C 32 6'10'' 255 C C- D+ A- A D
+1 reb
Underrated bigman and will provide solid depth

Sean Marks PF 26 6'10'' 250 C C C+ B B+ A
Sean Marks PF 26 6'10'' 250 C C C+ B B+ B
No change, career backup

Mario Bennett PF 28 6'6'' 235 B- C C B B B
Mario Bennett PF 28 6'6'' 235 B- C- C B B B
-1 outside
Not expecting offense out of him so this is fine

Mehmet Okur PF 22 6'11'' 249 C+ B- C C+ C+ B
Mehmet Okur PF 22 6'11'' 249 C+ B C C+ C+ B
+1 outside
Slowly coming along, will be interested in how he plays in preseason

James Posey SF 25 6'8'' 215 B- B C+ B+ D+ A
James Posey SF 25 6'8'' 215 B- B+ B- B+ C- A
+1 outside, +1 handles, +1 reb
Another very good TC from Posey, hopefully the outside increase is his jump shot

Eduardo Najera SF 25 6'8'' 240 C+ B C- B+ C+ B
Eduardo Najera SF 25 6'8'' 240 C+ B C- A- C+ B
+1 def
Might play minutes this season but looks to be good at the defensive end of the floor

Chris Gatling SF 34 6'10'' 220 B+ C+ D- C+ B- D
Chris Gatling SF 34 6'10'' 220 B B- F+ C+ B- D
-1 inside, +1 outside, -1 handles
He is 34 so this is expected, preseason will tell me if he still has it

Jim Jackson SG 31 6'6'' 220 B A+ B- A- C- C
Jim Jackson SG 31 6'6'' 220 B A+ B- A- C- D
No change, nothing to be said here

Kevin Ollie PG 29 6'4'' 195 B B A- A D+ B
Kevin Ollie PG 29 6'4'' 195 B B A A D+ C
+1 handles
Another improvement but I expect this wont change much in terms of production

Team held strong and saw improvement in the young players, really hoping he can make a title push this season
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Cellar-door wrote:Weird camp.

Mostly good, though for some weird reason almost all of my non-point guards got a -1 in Handles?

Parker with a +3, but really a +4 with a -1 in REB which is the least important PG stat.
Harvey with a +3 as well
Bradley and Stevenson with a +2 each, then a bunch of +1s.
I guess coaching staff doesn't like anyone outside of their PGs dribbling the ball :lol:
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Overall, meh TC. Was hoping to see more growth in Manu(+1) and Redd(+1). No change in ZBo. My young PGs, Theodoros (+2) and Khalid (+3), continue to improve.

Predrag Drobnjak C 26 6'11'' 270 B- C+ C B+ B- B
Predrag Drobnjak C 26 6'11'' 270 B- C+ C B+ B- B
No change.

Jason Collier C 24 7'0'' 260 B C- C B- C+ A
Jason Collier C 24 7'0'' 260 B C C- B- C B
+1out, -1hn, -1reb

Francisco Elson C 25 7'0'' 235 C+ C- D B B- A
Francisco Elson C 25 7'0'' 235 C+ C- D+ B B- B
+1hn, -1pot

Slava Medvedenko PF 22 6'10'' 253 A- C C- B- C B
Slava Medvedenko PF 22 6'10'' 253 A- C D+ B C B
-1hn, +1def

Obinna Ekezie PF 26 6'9'' 270 C+ C- C- C+ C+ B
Obinna Ekezie PF 26 6'9'' 270 C+ C- C- B- C+ B
+1def

Brian Cardinal PF 24 6'8'' 245 B- C C- C+ C B
Brian Cardinal PF 24 6'8'' 245 C+ C C- B- C B
-1ins,+1def

Zach Randolph PF 20 6'9'' 250 B- C F+ C C+ A
Zach Randolph PF 20 6'9'' 250 B- C F+ C C+ A
No change.

Matt Harpring SF 25 6'7'' 231 C+ A- C- B+ D B
Matt Harpring SF 25 6'7'' 231 C+ A- C- B+ D C
-1 pot

Rodney White SF 21 6'9'' 238 B- C C B- C B
Rodney White SF 21 6'9'' 238 B- C C C+ C C
-1def, -1 pot

Manu Ginobili SG 24 6'6'' 205 C+ B- C+ B C- B
Manu Ginobili SG 24 6'6'' 205 C+ B C+ B C- B
+1out

Michael Redd SG 22 6'6'' 220 C+ B C+ B- D A
Michael Redd SG 22 6'6'' 220 C+ B C+ B- D+ A
+1reb

Antonio Daniels PG 26 6'4'' 195 C+ A- C A- C- B
Antonio Daniels PG 26 6'4'' 195 C+ A- C B+ C- B
-1def

Theodoros Papaloukas PG 24 6'7'' 225 C+ C A- B- C A
Theodoros Papaloukas PG 24 6'7'' 225 C+ C+ A- B C B
+1out, +1def, -1pot

Khalid El-Amin PG 22 5'10'' 200 C B C+ B C- B
Khalid El-Amin PG 22 5'10'' 200 C B+ C+ A- C- B
+1out, +2def

Earl Watson PG 22 6'1'' 195 C+ C B C+ D+ B
Earl Watson PG 22 6'1'' 195 C+ C+ B B- D+ B
+1out, +1 def
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DerMarr Johnson SF 21 6'9'' 201 B B- C B C C
DerMarr Johnson SF 21 6'9'' 201 B B C B- C C
+1 outside, -1 defense

Halve the defense, double the offense!

Wally Szczerbiak SF 24 6'7'' 244 C A- C B C- A
Wally Szczerbiak SF 24 6'7'' 244 C A- C B C- B
-1 potential

Dang :lol:

Marcus Fizer SF 23 6'9'' 262 B- C+ C B- C+ B
Marcus Fizer SF 23 6'9'' 262 B- B- C C+ C+ B
+1 outside, -1 defense

Halve the defense, double the offense!

Lucious Harris SG 31 6'5'' 190 C+ A- B- A- C- B
Lucious Harris SG 31 6'5'' 190 C A- B A- C- C
-1 inside, +1 handling, -1 potential

Need that backup PG rule to stand :lol:

Aaron McKie SG 29 6'5'' 209 B- B- C+ A D+ C
Aaron McKie SG 29 6'5'' 209 B B C+ A D+ C
+1 inside, +1 outside

Finally developing some offense? Although I think these were his ratings a few seasons back as well

Stephen Jackson SG 23 6'8'' 218 B- A- C C+ C- C
Stephen Jackson SG 23 6'8'' 218 B- A- C B- C- C
+1 defense

Only man who worked on D this training camp

Darius Miles SG 20 6'9'' 210 B- C C B D+ A
Darius Miles SF 20 6'9'' 210 B C+ C A- D+ B
+1 inside +1 outside, +2 defense, -1 potential

Showing signs of life, I hope he fixed his percentages, he's looking a lot better of a prospect after a weak first TC.


Joe Johnson SG 20 6'7'' 240 C B C C+ D A
Joe Johnson SF 20 6'7'' 240 C+ A- C B- D A
+1 inside, +2 outside, +1 defense

I'm glad he's panning out early, hopefully his inside is high enough so he actually scores unlike Wally.

Bobby Jackson PG 28 6'1'' 185 C+ A- A- A C B
Bobby Jackson PG 28 6'1'' 185 C B+ A- A C B
-1 inside, -1 outside

Bit of a damper on my big FA signing that I was trying to move, but hopefully won't affect production too much. Price got lower though :lol:

Overall, only people I cared about were Miles, JJ, and Wally. Two of them got +4's so I am very happy
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120 Jamaal Magloire C 23 6'11'' 259 C+ C C B C+ A
120 Jamaal Magloire C 23 6'11'' 259 B- C C A- B A
+5 if I'm counting correctly... suddenly looking like a stud 8-)

387 Samuel Dalembert C 20 6'11'' 255 C+ C D+ B B+ C
387 Samuel Dalembert C 20 6'11'' 255 C+ C D B B B
-2 meh

256 Kevin Garnett PF 25 6'11'' 240 B+ C+ C A A- C
256 Kevin Garnett PF 25 6'11'' 240 B C+ C A B+ C
-2 :evil: KG's still my guy but wtf was that? :lol:

356 Darrell Armstrong PG 33 6'0'' 170 B- C+ A- A- C- B
356 Darrell Armstrong PG 33 6'0'' 170 B B- A- A- C- C
+2 Looking pretty spry for a 33 year old

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Frederic Weis +4 (2 def, 2 reb) to C+ C C- B+ A-
Noice noice noice noice.

Jabari Smith +1 reb to B- C- C C+ B-
Cool I guess. Wanted more out of the sophomore, but any improvement is good.

Kwame Brown +1 (+1 inside, reb, -1 def) to B- C+ C C+ C+
Good rookie TC. Shame on the lost defense, but establishing an offensive game is priority #1, and he moves on from the C rebounding.

Troy Murphy +3 (1 ins, hnd, reb) to B- C C C+ B-
Great job Murph! High hopes he'll join Clarence and Ellis in my collection of late-lotto PFs to excel.

Bobby Simmons +2 (1 out, def) to C+ B- C B+ C
Also a great start for the good potential #25 overall.

Mike Miller +0
Yikes. He's not in a position where he can be sitting pretty.

Derek Anderson +1 ins to A- B C+ B+ C
Woo! What an exciting look for the day 2 signing.

Quincy Lewis +0 (+1 out, -1 reb) to C+ B+ C B D-
Why must you wound me so, Quincy!? I love my perimeter rebounding. :(

Gordon Giricek -1 hnd to C+ B+ C- B- C-
Not a good look. Took him on for free, and he's expiring, so nothing lost but nothing gained.

Melvin Booker +1 hnd to C+ B+ A- A- D+
Sure. 29yo getting better is never bad.

Earl Boykins +1 (+1 out, hnd, -1 def) to C+ A- B- B- C
Hmm. Not a biggest fan of the shift, but it's probably a solid gain overall.

Chris Herren +1 def to C B- C+ B C-
I figured he was just a bad contract, and it's looking more likely that he is. Darn. Oh well.

Overall, good bordering on great. Miller is a real bummer, but I like the directions of every rookie as well as some decent gains from the FA signings, and then Weis being the big time +4 gainer.
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Surprisingly not bad.
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Andre Miller turned out to be a real bust
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A. Radojevic +3 looking good at the C position, B+ D+ D- B A- C
Gonna see what he can do with starter's minutes

S. Jasikevicius +2 looking good if he can cut down on last years turnovers, C B A- A+ D+ B

K. Dooling +2 also looking good at PG for 2nd year guy, C+ B B- B D+ A
Likely won't start, but hopefully a capable b/u with more potential it looks like

Everyone else was stagnant.
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offtheheezy wrote:DerMarr Johnson SF 21 6'9'' 201 B B- C B C C
DerMarr Johnson SF 21 6'9'' 201 B B C B- C C
+1 outside, -1 defense

Halve the defense, double the offense!

Wally Szczerbiak SF 24 6'7'' 244 C A- C B C- A
Wally Szczerbiak SF 24 6'7'' 244 C A- C B C- B
-1 potential

Dang :lol:

Marcus Fizer SF 23 6'9'' 262 B- C+ C B- C+ B
Marcus Fizer SF 23 6'9'' 262 B- B- C C+ C+ B
+1 outside, -1 defense

Halve the defense, double the offense!

Lucious Harris SG 31 6'5'' 190 C+ A- B- A- C- B
Lucious Harris SG 31 6'5'' 190 C A- B A- C- C
-1 inside, +1 handling, -1 potential

Need that backup PG rule to stand :lol:

Aaron McKie SG 29 6'5'' 209 B- B- C+ A D+ C
Aaron McKie SG 29 6'5'' 209 B B C+ A D+ C
+1 inside, +1 outside

Finally developing some offense? Although I think these were his ratings a few seasons back as well

Stephen Jackson SG 23 6'8'' 218 B- A- C C+ C- C
Stephen Jackson SG 23 6'8'' 218 B- A- C B- C- C
+1 defense

Only man who worked on D this training camp

Darius Miles SG 20 6'9'' 210 B- C C B D+ A
Darius Miles SF 20 6'9'' 210 B C+ C A- D+ B
+1 inside +1 outside, +2 defense, -1 potential

Showing signs of life, I hope he fixed his percentages, he's looking a lot better of a prospect after a weak first TC.


Joe Johnson SG 20 6'7'' 240 C B C C+ D A
Joe Johnson SF 20 6'7'' 240 C+ A- C B- D A
+1 inside, +2 outside, +1 defense

I'm glad he's panning out early, hopefully his inside is high enough so he actually scores unlike Wally.

Bobby Jackson PG 28 6'1'' 185 C+ A- A- A C B
Bobby Jackson PG 28 6'1'' 185 C B+ A- A C B
-1 inside, -1 outside

Bit of a damper on my big FA signing that I was trying to move, but hopefully won't affect production too much. Price got lower though :lol:

Overall, only people I cared about were Miles, JJ, and Wally. Two of them got +4's so I am very happy
I didn't even realize Jackson didn't re sign, god that fucking sucks so bad.
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Re: 2001 TC

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What a weird TC. My late 2nd got a +5. Pau and Kenyon dropped to B Pot. Kenyon is basically a completely different player. Rip looks primed to make a big jump.
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