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Anybody know the word on Thomas? I've read that he came back and was trying to throw on the sideline but had very little zip, and Rob Moseley's blog mentioned an AC joint sprain.

Please tell me we're not looking at a Sam Bradford type of situation with Thomas.
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Oregonian wrote:Anybody know the word on Thomas? I've read that he came back and was trying to throw on the sideline but had very little zip, and Rob Moseley's blog mentioned an AC joint sprain.

Please tell me we're not looking at a Sam Bradford type of situation with Thomas.
I'm sure he's "day to day"

I'm not real worried about it, especially with Costa in the fold.
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I'm pretty sure Kelly said he could have come back into the game if needed, so doesn't seem like too big a deal.
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I watched an interview with him last night. He said he could have played and he expects to practice and start against ucla. He didn't seem worried at all.
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Hell, I thought he had a good amount of zip on that 3rd down pass he threw right after the injury took place. I, too, think he'll be A-OK by UCLA.
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At first I thought he dislocated it cause of the way it was hanging but that he threw a pass on the next play I would say thats definitely not the case. If it were serious at all he would have had the pads off in the second half but he still had them on. If I were to guess he just bruised the shoulder and will be resting a lot between now and UCLA. It will probably be a tiny bit stiff for that game but then 100% after that.

Either that or it's torn but he will play another game and he will go down injured against UCLA. Then we lose and drop from #2 and our season falls apart and we go onto the civil war and lose that game as well in overtime.
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lukeyrid13 wrote:At first I thought he dislocated it cause of the way it was hanging but that he threw a pass on the next play I would say thats definitely not the case. If it were serious at all he would have had the pads off in the second half but he still had them on. If I were to guess he just bruised the shoulder and will be resting a lot between now and UCLA. It will probably be a tiny bit stiff for that game but then 100% after that.

Either that or it's torn but he will play another game and he will go down injured against UCLA. Then we lose and drop from #2 and our season falls apart and we go onto the civil war and lose that game as well in overtime.
Wow, is someone feeling extremely negative today? :roll:
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ducksrock wrote:
lukeyrid13 wrote:At first I thought he dislocated it cause of the way it was hanging but that he threw a pass on the next play I would say thats definitely not the case. If it were serious at all he would have had the pads off in the second half but he still had them on. If I were to guess he just bruised the shoulder and will be resting a lot between now and UCLA. It will probably be a tiny bit stiff for that game but then 100% after that.

Either that or it's torn but he will play another game and he will go down injured against UCLA. Then we lose and drop from #2 and our season falls apart and we go onto the civil war and lose that game as well in overtime.
Wow, is someone feeling extremely negative today? :roll:
I believe he's just comparing it to the situation in '07. I mean the situation does looks similar (knock on wood). Except this time we HAVE Costa. And we don't have Brady "Has two sprained ankles but with the way he runs it looks like he always has sprained ankles" Leaf.
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I have no inside info but having suffered numerous shoulder injuries in my life, I don't think it was any more than a bruise or maybe just a slight stinger. Had he dislocated his shoulder, regardless if it popped back in or not, I doubt he would have been able to throw the ball at all on that 3rd down pass, let alone the 5-10 yards he did. Had he separated it, same sort of deal. If it was any injury of note, the coaches would have more than likely left him in the locker room. The fact that he was doing some light throwing after coming back out also leads me to believe it was nothing major. Again, I have no inside info, just speaking from experience of numerous dislocations/separations.
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Tray Dub wrote:I'm pretty sure Kelly said he could have come back into the game if needed, so doesn't seem like too big a deal.
Thats what they said about Dixon too...
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You cannot throw following a dislocated shoulder, even if you manage to reduce (the medical terminology for returning it to the socket) almost immediately. Regarding the long term possibility of injury, compare the way Thomas injured himself to the way Dixon injured himself. Thomas was injured after falling down, and if you watch the replays, it was in a manner that was not particularly painful to the eyes (compared to say, Bradford, where you could tell immediately he had tweaked it unpleasantly.) Dixon was destroyed on a hit when he was taken out of the ASU game. I'm not saying its not possible there is more damage to Thomas's shoulder (knock on wood) because he hurt it in a specific manner - a bone can break with only 8 pounds of force if hit in the right spot - but the force imparted on it during the injuring play is much less than Dixon received when he experienced his.
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Guys....chill out on this one...he fell a little awkward, but that was it. This was not a case where a 300lb DT fell on top driving his shoulder into the ground like Bradford. When you have a capable backup, like Costa, and you are playing WSU there is no point in forcing the issue. The coaches knew Costa could seal the deal so they didn;t risk it. SMART.
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Handsome Dan wrote:You cannot throw following a dislocated shoulder, even if you manage to reduce (the medical terminology for returning it to the socket) almost immediately. Regarding the long term possibility of injury, compare the way Thomas injured himself to the way Dixon injured himself. Thomas was injured after falling down, and if you watch the replays, it was in a manner that was not particularly painful to the eyes (compared to say, Bradford, where you could tell immediately he had tweaked it unpleasantly.) Dixon was destroyed on a hit when he was taken out of the ASU game. I'm not saying its not possible there is more damage to Thomas's shoulder (knock on wood) because he hurt it in a specific manner - a bone can break with only 8 pounds of force if hit in the right spot - but the force imparted on it during the injuring play is much less than Dixon received when he experienced his.
Yeah there's no way he could have tossed that pass if he had a dislocated shoulder. A few years back I cam across the ice and smoked a kid in hockey, giving him a concussion and dislocating my shoulder in the process (not the first time it had been out). I actually popped it back in after falling to the ice. There's no way I could have held a hockey stick let alone throw a 5-10 strike with a football.

I trust the ducks medical staff will give him the rest he needs and be proactive with the healing process. I'd be shocked if he wasn't good to go for the UCLA game.
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stewbertwilloughby wrote:
ducksrock wrote:
lukeyrid13 wrote:At first I thought he dislocated it cause of the way it was hanging but that he threw a pass on the next play I would say thats definitely not the case. If it were serious at all he would have had the pads off in the second half but he still had them on. If I were to guess he just bruised the shoulder and will be resting a lot between now and UCLA. It will probably be a tiny bit stiff for that game but then 100% after that.

Either that or it's torn but he will play another game and he will go down injured against UCLA. Then we lose and drop from #2 and our season falls apart and we go onto the civil war and lose that game as well in overtime.
Wow, is someone feeling extremely negative today? :roll:
I believe he's just comparing it to the situation in '07. I mean the situation does looks similar (knock on wood). Except this time we HAVE Costa. And we don't have Brady "Has two sprained ankles but with the way he runs it looks like he always has sprained ankles" Leaf.
Was just being a sarcastic negaduck. I doubt he is hurt bad but does look similar to 07.
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