Chris Carter's son visiting UO

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jimmy12 wrote:He's pretty slow....
They said the same thing about his dad, same thing w/ that Jerry Rice guy. Look how that turned out.

For fun, lets list some of the faster Oregon WRs of recent memory... Jaison Williams, Jamere Holland, Diante Jackson, Derrick Jones
How about some of our less-than-speedy WRs... Jeff Maehl, Demitrius Williams, Ed Dickson (lets face it, he was basically a wr)

If he was good enough for Ohio State then, assuming he's got his head on straight academically, he's good enough for us.
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fecta23 wrote:
Boom wrote:
fecta23 wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:
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UOducksTK1 wrote: Yeah that's his biggest weakness. But good route running + hands have been his strength, much like his father.
Outside of maybe Josh Huff, I doubt we have receivers who run faster than a 4.6 forty.
Lowe probably does.

Not a chance.
?

Not a chance that Lowe runs a legit sub 4.6.
what are you basing that on?
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Here we go.
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glazeduck wrote:
jimmy12 wrote:He's pretty slow....
They said the same thing about his dad, same thing w/ that Jerry Rice guy. Look how that turned out.

For fun, lets list some of the faster Oregon WRs of recent memory... Jaison Williams, Jamere Holland, Diante Jackson, Derrick Jones
How about some of our less-than-speedy WRs... Jeff Maehl, Demitrius Williams, Ed Dickson (lets face it, he was basically a wr)

If he was good enough for Ohio State then, assuming he's got his head on straight academically, he's good enough for us.
I don't think Oregon's coaches would go after him if they didn't think he would fit in here. Let's just hope he can get his academics in order so we don't have another Gaines/Jackson/Jones issue.
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Boom wrote:
fecta23 wrote:
Boom wrote:
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Boom wrote: Outside of maybe Josh Huff, I doubt we have receivers who run faster than a 4.6 forty.
Lowe probably does.

Not a chance.
?

Not a chance that Lowe runs a legit sub 4.6.
what are you basing that on?
Watching him practice, watching his tape and his 10.96 hundred time last year. Not saying he isnt quick but anything in the 4.5's is crazy fast.
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fecta23 wrote:Watching him practice, watching his tape and his 10.96 hundred time last year. Not saying he isnt quick but anything in the 4.5's is crazy fast.
OK, I'm not disagreeing with ya, just wondering what you were basing your opinion off of. I haven't seen a lot of him other than his performance in last years state title game.

His profile says he ran a (10.77)100m and a (21.94)200m, but I have no idea what that means for football speed. I'm not a track guy.
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Just for kicks I did a little research. The 4.66 Carter ran was at the Miami 2008 Scout combine. I don't know what timing system they were using but 8 players were timed between 4.31 and 4.40. Carters 4.66 was about 55th place that day.

As to Lowe he ran a 10.77 and 10.78 F.A.T. this Spring in the state finals. That is better than Seastrunk's best 2010 track season result. Most of the times I found for Huff were in the low 11s with a best in the high 10.8s.
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The Dude started for Ohio st. as a freshman. I think he is good enough to play a role on our team. My only problem is he made somewhat of a pledge to go back to Ohio St. and he stays in contact with Terrelle Pyror. So if Ohio St has room they might go from him again.
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I agree that speed is great and we have a ton of it in our offense. That being said, I think that Kelly would take a receiver that runs a 4.8 but has great blocking skills and will catch the ball. Over a kid that is just super fast..
The difference between a 4.6 and a 4.8 isn't that much.
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brich75 wrote:I agree that speed is great and we have a ton of it in our offense. That being said, I think that Kelly would take a receiver that runs a 4.8 but has great blocking skills and will catch the ball. Over a kid that is just super fast..
The difference between a 4.6 and a 4.8 isn't that much.
It is strange how people get to be so much in love with the 40 time. Basically over the length of a whole field someone with 4.4 beats a 4.6 by 1/2 second. That's basically a snap of the fingers. Rarely do WR's get a chance to bust a 80 yd straight out bomb anyway. I would just as soon see someone that can catch and block and run routes. And 6'3 isn't bad either.
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bellsduck wrote:
brich75 wrote:I agree that speed is great and we have a ton of it in our offense. That being said, I think that Kelly would take a receiver that runs a 4.8 but has great blocking skills and will catch the ball. Over a kid that is just super fast..
The difference between a 4.6 and a 4.8 isn't that much.
It is strange how people get to be so much in love with the 40 time. Basically over the length of a whole field someone with 4.4 beats a 4.6 by 1/2 second. That's basically a snap of the fingers. Rarely do WR's get a chance to bust a 80 yd straight out bomb anyway. I would just as soon see someone that can catch and block and run routes. And 6'3 isn't bad either.
I agree, I wont lie though. I get excited when I see a guy like T SUMLER who allegedly runs a sub 4.3 40. The fact is though if he cant block he wont be all that valuable in our offense.
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Biggus Duckus wrote:
brich75 wrote:
bellsduck wrote:
brich75 wrote:I agree that speed is great and we have a ton of it in our offense. That being said, I think that Kelly would take a receiver that runs a 4.8 but has great blocking skills and will catch the ball. Over a kid that is just super fast..
The difference between a 4.6 and a 4.8 isn't that much.
It is strange how people get to be so much in love with the 40 time. Basically over the length of a whole field someone with 4.4 beats a 4.6 by 1/2 second. That's basically a snap of the fingers. Rarely do WR's get a chance to bust a 80 yd straight out bomb anyway. I would just as soon see someone that can catch and block and run routes. And 6'3 isn't bad either.
I agree, I wont lie though. I get excited when I see a guy like T SUMLER who allegedly runs a sub 4.3 40. The fact is though if he cant block he wont be all that valuable in our offense.
Anyone that can SPREAD the field works well in a SPREAD offense. I don't get caught up on 40 times, but Sumler is an exception because he seems to easily be the fastest kid in the recruiting class (nationwide). I'm sure most would agree.
I think everyone is stoked about his speed. I should also say that just because he is ultra fast doesn't mean he cant block or catch. He could very well be a great blocker with great hands and world class speed. If this is the case we are in for a treat as Oregon fans.
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vagusnerve wrote:dude a legitimate 4.5 40 yard runner is blazing.... no, wait, super blazing.

there just aren't very many CFB players that run that fast. that's super fast for the NFL.
The problem is that people believe all the recruiting stats, which are garbage. Unless a kids recruiting profile says 4.4, people don't think someone is a burner. But you are right that the reality is the kid listed at 4.4 will be lucky to run a legit 4.65.
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fecta23 wrote:
UOducksTK1 wrote:
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jimmy12 wrote:He's pretty slow....
Yeah that's his biggest weakness. But good route running + hands have been his strength, much like his father.
Outside of maybe Josh Huff, I doubt we have receivers who run faster than a 4.6 forty.
Lowe probably does.

Not a chance.
Well I don't know of his 40 exactly, but he was one of the fastest 100 meter runners in the state. So I'd say he's just as fast as Huff.

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GrandpaDuck wrote:Just for kicks I did a little research. The 4.66 Carter ran was at the Miami 2008 Scout combine. I don't know what timing system they were using but 8 players were timed between 4.31 and 4.40. Carters 4.66 was about 55th place that day.

As to Lowe he ran a 10.77 and 10.78 F.A.T. this Spring in the state finals. That is better than Seastrunk's best 2010 track season result. Most of the times I found for Huff were in the low 11s with a best in the high 10.8s.
Seastrunk has beaten all comers in football. Was the fastest player at last years Army All American game. Would be surprised if he's not faster than LaMichael.

"On the track, had personal bests of 10.33 (100) and 21-8 (long jump) during his prep track career"

Can't wait until next year to watch him with Kenyan and LaMichael.

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