Chris Carter's son visiting UO

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GrandpaDuck wrote:Just for kicks I did a little research. The 4.66 Carter ran was at the Miami 2008 Scout combine. I don't know what timing system they were using but 8 players were timed between 4.31 and 4.40. Carters 4.66 was about 55th place that day.

As to Lowe he ran a 10.77 and 10.78 F.A.T. this Spring in the state finals. That is better than Seastrunk's best 2010 track season result. Most of the times I found for Huff were in the low 11s with a best in the high 10.8s.
Seastrunk has beaten all comers in football. Was the fastest player at last years Army All American game. Would be surprised if he's not faster than LaMichael.

"On the track, had personal bests of 10.33 (100) and 21-8 (long jump) during his prep track career"

Can't wait until next year to watch him with Kenyan and LaMichael.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x14qPgmXE-I
I am as excited as anyone about Seastrunk. I a, just curious as to why we don't hear anything at all about him on scout team, I was thinking he would have been player of the week a couple times or something?.?
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brich75 wrote:I agree that speed is great and we have a ton of it in our offense. That being said, I think that Kelly would take a receiver that runs a 4.8 but has great blocking skills and will catch the ball. Over a kid that is just super fast..
The difference between a 4.6 and a 4.8 isn't that much.
Jeff Maehl shows a 4.72 on Rivals. Obviously that is fast enough to be very successful in this offense.
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brich75 wrote:I agree that speed is great and we have a ton of it in our offense. That being said, I think that Kelly would take a receiver that runs a 4.8 but has great blocking skills and will catch the ball. Over a kid that is just super fast..
The difference between a 4.6 and a 4.8 isn't that much.
Jeff Maehl shows a 4.72 on Rivals. Obviously that is fast enough to be very successful in this offense.
ya he is OK:)
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As a poster said before, if you can start for OSU as a freshmen then he clearly has something. For people who are hung up on speed, its not how fast you go, but rather how you use your speed effectively(acceleration, cuts on routes(which he is great at)) and also not to mention he is 6'3 so you cant really classify him as a burner, he is a possession type of WR who can make the tough catches for his team.
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Anyone remember Tony Hartley? He lacked speed.
But anything thrown his way he caught. He also
was good at yards after the catch.
I'd take a whole bunch of receivers like that.
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Oregon Ownage wrote:As a poster said before, if you can start for OSU as a freshmen then he clearly has something. For people who are hung up on speed, its not how fast you go, but rather how you use your speed effectively(acceleration, cuts on routes(which he is great at)) and also not to mention he is 6'3 so you cant really classify him as a burner, he is a possession type of WR who can make the tough catches for his team.
Plus he has some size to him that would allow him to possibly be a good blocker in this offense.
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So when is this visit supposed to happen?
OregonFan4life -
My source just said Chip is officially back!
It will be announced at Autzen press conference tomorrow afternoon!
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karlhungis wrote:So when is this visit supposed to happen?
Can't read the article but I would suspect probably for the Washington game.
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tOSU fans were VERY high on Carter even after just playing his true freshman year.
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my buddy told me today that he did see Chris Carter at the game Thurs. Anyone else see him?
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The 40 times are practically useless... not only because they're rarely correct but also because the 40 time isn't really all that applicable to football.

Quickness and efficiency (grace) or much more important for a football player.

Darron Thomas is pretty dang slow (compared to other players on the team) but he's quick and he's smooth. He can get around the corner to gain yards. Same for Costa.

LaMichael James is super fast, yes, but what makes him standout is that burst he possess where he can go from standing still to top speed in a split second.

Barner does this even better. He's quick, elusive and graceful.

Look at Alston, he's obviously got a lower top speed than Barner or James, but what really sets him apart as the 3rd string back is that he does not posses the quickness to pounce through the hole and explode out the other side like James or Barner.
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40 times need to always be taken with a grain of salt because they don't always mention whether it was hand timed or electronically timed.
If you look at the bio's of all the oregon players you will see that they are not as fast as you might think because we electronically time our 40's. Eddie Pleasant who is our 2nd fastest DB, behind Dior Mathis I believe, only runs a 4.74 40 and he is cosidered to be one of the fastest players on the team.
It's no secret that in our offense we need speed but I would argue that at the WR position we need guys that can block just as well as get down field. Carter might not be the fastest WR but he is a perfect possession type WR who is plenty fast enough to get down field in the passing game and big enough to blow up DB's when blocking for our quick hitting pass plays/screens.
One more note, Tacoi Sumler will go down as the fastest Duck football player in history. At the SPARQ combine he ran a laser timed 4.24 which is ridiculously fast.
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vagusnerve wrote:The 40 times are practically useless... not only because they're rarely correct but also because the 40 time isn't really all that applicable to football.

Quickness and efficiency (grace) or much more important for a football player.

Darron Thomas is pretty dang slow (compared to other players on the team) but he's quick and he's smooth. He can get around the corner to gain yards. Same for Costa.

LaMichael James is super fast, yes, but what makes him standout is that burst he possess where he can go from standing still to top speed in a split second.

Barner does this even better. He's quick, elusive and graceful.

Look at Alston, he's obviously got a lower top speed than Barner or James, but what really sets him apart as the 3rd string back is that he does not posses the quickness to pounce through the hole and explode out the other side like James or Barner.
I just looked at the Rivals recruiting bio's for Alston and James, both are listed with a 4.4 40. Does anybody really think they have the same speed? As you correctly stated, 40 times are practically useless.
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maxduck wrote:
vagusnerve wrote:The 40 times are practically useless... not only because they're rarely correct but also because the 40 time isn't really all that applicable to football.

Quickness and efficiency (grace) or much more important for a football player.

Darron Thomas is pretty dang slow (compared to other players on the team) but he's quick and he's smooth. He can get around the corner to gain yards. Same for Costa.

LaMichael James is super fast, yes, but what makes him standout is that burst he possess where he can go from standing still to top speed in a split second.

Barner does this even better. He's quick, elusive and graceful.

Look at Alston, he's obviously got a lower top speed than Barner or James, but what really sets him apart as the 3rd string back is that he does not posses the quickness to pounce through the hole and explode out the other side like James or Barner.
I just looked at the Rivals recruiting bio's for Alston and James, both are listed with a 4.4 40. Does anybody really think they have the same speed? As you correctly stated, 40 times are practically useless.
There is no standard for measuring 40 times in high school so you get a lot of players who run a 4.4 40 in high school but only about a 4.6-4.7 once they get measured in college.
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greenyellow wrote:
maxduck wrote:
vagusnerve wrote:The 40 times are practically useless... not only because they're rarely correct but also because the 40 time isn't really all that applicable to football.

Quickness and efficiency (grace) or much more important for a football player.

Darron Thomas is pretty dang slow (compared to other players on the team) but he's quick and he's smooth. He can get around the corner to gain yards. Same for Costa.

LaMichael James is super fast, yes, but what makes him standout is that burst he possess where he can go from standing still to top speed in a split second.

Barner does this even better. He's quick, elusive and graceful.

Look at Alston, he's obviously got a lower top speed than Barner or James, but what really sets him apart as the 3rd string back is that he does not posses the quickness to pounce through the hole and explode out the other side like James or Barner.
I just looked at the Rivals recruiting bio's for Alston and James, both are listed with a 4.4 40. Does anybody really think they have the same speed? As you correctly stated, 40 times are practically useless.
There is no standard for measuring 40 times in high school so you get a lot of players who run a 4.4 40 in high school but only about a 4.6-4.7 once they get measured in college.
or a 4.9 or 5.0
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