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Thanks jimmy. Now do we take him, or do we try and just recruit some DL because we need help next year not in 2 years.
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buckmarkduck wrote:Thanks jimmy. Now do we take him, or do we try and just recruit some DL because we need help next year not in 2 years.
We will probably need help in two years as well....
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buckmarkduck wrote:Thanks jimmy. Now do we take him, or do we try and just recruit some DL because we need help next year not in 2 years.
DL guys rarely have the skills and size to come in and contribute right away anyways.

We could end up with three 5 star DL guys and it doesn't mean they're gonna be starting right away.

We'll need help on the DL immediately, so it makes sense to take a JC as well as several freshman. This guy would be welcome as well because it seems like he'd be ready to play in 2012.

Honestly, the coaches have to be worried about our DL for next year, it's looking pretty thin. If we get some quality guys in this class then they can provide depth to the returnees.
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3 star recruits are not "big time" IMO
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sx1080 wrote:

3 star recruits are not "big time" IMO
Yeah that LaMichael James guy sucks. TOTALLY overrated.
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I think you have to question the judgment of a non-Mormon kid with other perfectly good offers (Arizona, Arkansas, Nebraska, Purdue, TCU) actually choosing to attend BYU. I'm guessing it was entirely a football decision and he didn't even consider the potential culture shock. I'm not normally one to bash a player/recruit, but after doing a little research, this kid just rubs me the wrong way.
Tayo Fabuluje, a defensive end out of Arlington, Texas, was heavily recruited by BYU and Utah. He said his experience with Utah left a lot to be desired.

“[Utah] just had a bad vibe about it,” Fabuluje said. “It didn’t seem like I could spend my next four years there.”

According to Fabuluje, he was turned off by the attitudes of those he came in contact with at Utah.

“Their players were cocky and their coaches were cocky,” Fabuluje said. “Confidence is good, but being cocky is another thing, and they cross the line.”
Unlike the constructive, positive approach he said BYU took in recruiting him, Utah did and said just about anything to convince him that BYU wasn’t the school for him.

“The whole time I was there they spoke smack about BYU,” Fabuluje said. “I didn’t know if they were trying to recruit me to Utah or just make sure I didn’t go to BYU. It got old.”

Eventually, Fabuluje decided the camaraderie he felt at BYU made the difference.

“When I went there it felt like the right place,” Fabuluje said. “Everyone was a big family, and no one else had that family atmosphere, and obviously they’re good at football.”
“If everybody in this room just want to be real with themselves, this game could have went either way,” he said. “We turned the ball over a lot. We beat ourself. Just be real with yourself right now. We beat ourself.”
-Jameis Winston after Oregon's decisive 59-20 victory over Florida State in the Rose Bowl
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glazeduck wrote:
sx1080 wrote:

3 star recruits are not "big time" IMO
Yeah that LaMichael James guy sucks. TOTALLY overrated.

He didn't say 3 star recruits cannot be successful or great, just that they aren't really considered "big time". Personally, I would say Fabuluje is a solid recruit, but I wouldn't consider him "big time" considering what Oregon can get right now.
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uostudent wrote:I think you have to question the judgment of a non-Mormon kid with other perfectly good offers (Arizona, Arkansas, Nebraska, Purdue, TCU) actually choosing to attend BYU. I'm guessing it was entirely a football decision and he didn't even consider the potential culture shock. I'm not normally one to bash a player/recruit, but after doing a little research, this kid just rubs me the wrong way.
Tayo Fabuluje, a defensive end out of Arlington, Texas, was heavily recruited by BYU and Utah. He said his experience with Utah left a lot to be desired.

“[Utah] just had a bad vibe about it,” Fabuluje said. “It didn’t seem like I could spend my next four years there.”

According to Fabuluje, he was turned off by the attitudes of those he came in contact with at Utah.

“Their players were cocky and their coaches were cocky,” Fabuluje said. “Confidence is good, but being cocky is another thing, and they cross the line.”
Unlike the constructive, positive approach he said BYU took in recruiting him, Utah did and said just about anything to convince him that BYU wasn’t the school for him.

“The whole time I was there they spoke smack about BYU,” Fabuluje said. “I didn’t know if they were trying to recruit me to Utah or just make sure I didn’t go to BYU. It got old.”

Eventually, Fabuluje decided the camaraderie he felt at BYU made the difference.

“When I went there it felt like the right place,” Fabuluje said. “Everyone was a big family, and no one else had that family atmosphere, and obviously they’re good at football.”
You can certainly interpret this a few different ways, but in my view if he visited Utah and all they did was bash BYU, that's negative recruiting and I think it's commendable that this kid was able to see through that and wasn't influenced by it like so many are. Who knows why he's leaving BYU, but I don't see his comments here as any indictment on his character.
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PDXShogun wrote:
uostudent wrote:I think you have to question the judgment of a non-Mormon kid with other perfectly good offers (Arizona, Arkansas, Nebraska, Purdue, TCU) actually choosing to attend BYU. I'm guessing it was entirely a football decision and he didn't even consider the potential culture shock. I'm not normally one to bash a player/recruit, but after doing a little research, this kid just rubs me the wrong way.
Tayo Fabuluje, a defensive end out of Arlington, Texas, was heavily recruited by BYU and Utah. He said his experience with Utah left a lot to be desired.

“[Utah] just had a bad vibe about it,” Fabuluje said. “It didn’t seem like I could spend my next four years there.”

According to Fabuluje, he was turned off by the attitudes of those he came in contact with at Utah.

“Their players were cocky and their coaches were cocky,” Fabuluje said. “Confidence is good, but being cocky is another thing, and they cross the line.”
Unlike the constructive, positive approach he said BYU took in recruiting him, Utah did and said just about anything to convince him that BYU wasn’t the school for him.

“The whole time I was there they spoke smack about BYU,” Fabuluje said. “I didn’t know if they were trying to recruit me to Utah or just make sure I didn’t go to BYU. It got old.”

Eventually, Fabuluje decided the camaraderie he felt at BYU made the difference.

“When I went there it felt like the right place,” Fabuluje said. “Everyone was a big family, and no one else had that family atmosphere, and obviously they’re good at football.”
You can certainly interpret this a few different ways, but in my view if he visited Utah and all they did was bash BYU, that's negative recruiting and I think it's commendable that this kid was able to see through that and wasn't influenced by it like so many are. Who knows why he's leaving BYU, but I don't see his comments here as any indictment on his character.
I forgot to mention that article came from BYU's website. It's a very biased article about how awesome BYU is and what a moral school it is. The article just comes off as a "holier than thou" piece.

Why would Utah, a better program, really feel the need to trash BYU when recruiting a non-Mormon kid? I kind of get the feeling that Fabuluje exaggerated what went on, to give the author of the article more ammunition for the rivalry.

Those are some very Chris McCain-esque quotes.
“If everybody in this room just want to be real with themselves, this game could have went either way,” he said. “We turned the ball over a lot. We beat ourself. Just be real with yourself right now. We beat ourself.”
-Jameis Winston after Oregon's decisive 59-20 victory over Florida State in the Rose Bowl
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uostudent wrote:
PDXShogun wrote:
uostudent wrote:I think you have to question the judgment of a non-Mormon kid with other perfectly good offers (Arizona, Arkansas, Nebraska, Purdue, TCU) actually choosing to attend BYU. I'm guessing it was entirely a football decision and he didn't even consider the potential culture shock. I'm not normally one to bash a player/recruit, but after doing a little research, this kid just rubs me the wrong way.
Tayo Fabuluje, a defensive end out of Arlington, Texas, was heavily recruited by BYU and Utah. He said his experience with Utah left a lot to be desired.

“[Utah] just had a bad vibe about it,” Fabuluje said. “It didn’t seem like I could spend my next four years there.”

According to Fabuluje, he was turned off by the attitudes of those he came in contact with at Utah.

“Their players were cocky and their coaches were cocky,” Fabuluje said. “Confidence is good, but being cocky is another thing, and they cross the line.”
Unlike the constructive, positive approach he said BYU took in recruiting him, Utah did and said just about anything to convince him that BYU wasn’t the school for him.

“The whole time I was there they spoke smack about BYU,” Fabuluje said. “I didn’t know if they were trying to recruit me to Utah or just make sure I didn’t go to BYU. It got old.”

Eventually, Fabuluje decided the camaraderie he felt at BYU made the difference.

“When I went there it felt like the right place,” Fabuluje said. “Everyone was a big family, and no one else had that family atmosphere, and obviously they’re good at football.”
You can certainly interpret this a few different ways, but in my view if he visited Utah and all they did was bash BYU, that's negative recruiting and I think it's commendable that this kid was able to see through that and wasn't influenced by it like so many are. Who knows why he's leaving BYU, but I don't see his comments here as any indictment on his character.
I forgot to mention that article came from BYU's website. It's a very biased article about how awesome BYU is and what a moral school it is. The article just comes off as a "holier than thou" piece.

Why would Utah, a better program, really feel the need to trash BYU when recruiting a non-Mormon kid? I kind of get the feeling that Fabuluje exaggerated what went on, to give the author of the article more ammunition for the rivalry.

Those are some very Chris McCain-esque quotes.
That interviewer was a BYU senior in public relations with ties to the athletic department. Are you surprised it has a negative slant regarding an instate rival? Personally I would like to see some independent articles to form an opinion.
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vagusnerve wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:Thanks jimmy. Now do we take him, or do we try and just recruit some DL because we need help next year not in 2 years.
DL guys rarely have the skills and size to come in and contribute right away anyways.

We could end up with three 5 star DL guys and it doesn't mean they're gonna be starting right away.

We'll need help on the DL immediately, so it makes sense to take a JC as well as several freshman. This guy would be welcome as well because it seems like he'd be ready to play in 2012.

Honestly, the coaches have to be worried about our DL for next year, it's looking pretty thin. If we get some quality guys in this class then they can provide depth to the returnees.
If they are looking into some JC transfers, they have to pick them carefully since some are very boom or bust. They almost would be better off getting FR DL since you get more years out of them, but the right JC transfers can help out until those FR develop.
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Big kid who once had pac 10 offers. good enough for me.
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He'd be a great get for us, at DE. We need big bodies up the middle and while Bair has had a nice season for us, we need bigger, stockier DL, not our tall and lean version to really effect the middle of the line.
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duckgrad99 wrote:
glazeduck wrote:
sx1080 wrote:

3 star recruits are not "big time" IMO
Yeah that LaMichael James guy sucks. TOTALLY overrated.

He didn't say 3 star recruits cannot be successful or great, just that they aren't really considered "big time". Personally, I would say Fabuluje is a solid recruit, but I wouldn't consider him "big time" considering what Oregon can get right now.
Completely agree. A big recruit is a top 100 recruit. With that being said, Tayo's offer list is imipressive enough for me to take him on as a transfer. We need D-linemen desperately, so sign him up!

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With our depth at Dline you definitely take the kid. I'm not gonna expect a TON out of him though. These kind of transfers usually will give you solid depth & play an important role but I usually don't become stars on the team. Which is great, definitely something we need. But with him only being a freshman he does have a chance to be a great player for us.
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