Final commit projections

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Oh I thought I'd add that Garrick will likely greyshirt, as will Bigelow. They both suffered their second ACL tears this autumn!!!!!!
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For those who aren't familiar with Leilon Willingham...here's his rival profile! http://rivals.yahoo.com/oregon/football ... gham-90754
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Seriously doubt Bigelow will change his commit just to greyshirt at UO. Why would he need two years to rehab? WTIII knee was way worse and he was back playing in 8 months.
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buckmarkduck wrote:Seriously doubt Bigelow will change his commit just to greyshirt at UO. Why would he need two years to rehab? WTIII knee was way worse and he was back playing in 8 months.
It's dude's second ACL tear in a year. I would think that means extra time for rehab? Look at Costa, his knees are a wreck.

Garrick had no other offers so I'd assume he would for sure greyshirt because he, too, has had two ACL tears in less then a year.

Bigelow is certainly worth the risk, he'd be a top 5 RB without the injuries. But is an unknown sleeper at a deep position (LB) really worth the risk after TWO ACL tears in HIGH SCHOOL?
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Yeah, but he hurt it before the season, and even with a RS he would have 2 full years to recover. Why would he need 3? If it's not better in two years, it's probably never getting to 100% and he should just count his losses and get a degree and help out as a student coach or something on the team.
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Bigelow isn't going to take a grey-shirt. He has too many schools with unconditional offers to choose from to accept that.

I hope if Bigelow signs they still pursue Carson. Different style back anyway and the 2 ACLs are too risky to ignore.

Frankly, RB is a much bigger need then most people think. If James goes NFL, that would leave Barner as the only PROVEN D1 running back. We might have to move Huff or Lowe from WR to RB, if Dontae Williams and particularly Seastrunk don't work out at RB. I suspect Williams will work out at RB, but Seastrunk is far from a sure thing. He might be better as a Tazer unless Coach Campbell performs a masterful job of teaching him to run North and South into the hole instead of turning every play into a dash or dance to the right sideline.

Again, just an opinion but I suspect Seastrunk might be a spectacular Tazer with his speed and vertical and the design of the Tazer running plays more often matching his strength of racing to the edge. On the other hand he might just transfer out if you tried to move him from RB.
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GrandpaDuck wrote:Bigelow isn't going to take a grey-shirt. He has too many schools with unconditional offers to choose from to accept that.

I hope if Bigelow signs they still pursue Carson. Different style back anyway and the 2 ACLs are too risky to ignore.

Frankly, RB is a much bigger need then most people think. If James goes NFL, that would leave Barner as the only PROVEN D1 running back. We might have to move Huff or Lowe from WR to RB, if Dontae Williams and particularly Seastrunk don't work out at RB. I suspect Williams will work out at RB, but Seastrunk is far from a sure thing. He might be better as a Tazer unless Coach Campbell performs a masterful job of teaching him to run North and South into the hole instead of turning every play into a dash or dance to the right sideline.

Again, just an opinion but I suspect Seastrunk might be a spectacular Tazer with his speed and vertical and the design of the Tazer running plays more often matching his strength of racing to the edge. On the other hand he might just transfer out if you tried to move him from RB.
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What's with this weird assumption amongst Duck fans that Seastrunk is only running left-to-right and isn't a good tailback? We've heard nothing about this.
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He does like to dance quite a bit...but he'll break the big one from time to time to...You can't teach sub 4.4 speed!
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ljginger wrote:For those who aren't familiar with Leilon Willingham...here's his rival profile! http://rivals.yahoo.com/oregon/football ... gham-90754
Good reminder re Willingham. However, until he schedules a trip, then he's very much on the outside looking in. He might have us as high interest, but the interest has to go both ways. I do agree that we're likely to take another LB and it's going to be an inside guy. Willingham, Dawson, and Tyrone Sauls appear to be 3 inside guys with the best chances. Jason Gibson could certainly end up as an ILB as well.

p.s. I just read his Scout profile and it lists us as high along w/UW. He also said, in his post UW trip, that he planned to visit Oregon before making a decision, but since then he's been offered by UCLA & A&M. I know he has an offer from us, but my bet is we've got him on hold. His size would indicate he could easily end up inside, but Scout & Rivals both list him as an outside guy. We don't need anymore outside guys.
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Good point macduck! I thought I heard the interest was mutual with Willingham but I guess not...I would rather have Gibson anyways...
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buckmarkduck wrote:Yeah, but he hurt it before the season, and even with a RS he would have 2 full years to recover. Why would he need 3? If it's not better in two years, it's probably never getting to 100% and he should just count his losses and get a degree and help out as a student coach or something on the team.
Yeah, I suppose you're right Buckmark...

I was just thinking that it's better for the player as well because he can greyshirt, then come in and play as a freshman and save the redshirt in case he tears the ACL again (which is overwhelmingly likely from the little I understand of these injuries).

Maybe I'm just being retarded? I don't know, seems like an ideal plan to me but what do I know!? :lol:

What do you think about Garrick then? Seems like the coaches like him (obviously!) and yet we may have to deny a high 4star prospect to get him. He's had 2 ACL injuries and definitely does not enjoy the rare quickness/speed/agility that Bigelow shows. Is he worth the risk then?

Not hating on sleepers, just wondering what you think about denying a 4 star DT, DB or WR in order to offer a 0 star OLB (NOT a position of need) with 2 ACL injuries?
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vagusnerve wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:Yeah, but he hurt it before the season, and even with a RS he would have 2 full years to recover. Why would he need 3? If it's not better in two years, it's probably never getting to 100% and he should just count his losses and get a degree and help out as a student coach or something on the team.
Yeah, I suppose you're right Buckmark...

I was just thinking that it's better for the player as well because he can greyshirt, then come in and play as a freshman and save the redshirt in case he tears the ACL again (which is overwhelmingly likely from the little I understand of these injuries).

Maybe I'm just being retarded? I don't know, seems like an ideal plan to me but what do I know!? :lol:

What do you think about Garrick then? Seems like the coaches like him (obviously!) and yet we may have to deny a high 4star prospect to get him. He's had 2 ACL injuries and definitely does not enjoy the rare quickness/speed/agility that Bigelow shows. Is he worth the risk then?

Not hating on sleepers, just wondering what you think about denying a 4 star DT, DB or WR in order to offer a 0 star OLB (NOT a position of need) with 2 ACL injuries?
My understanding is that Garrick is almost certainly going to gray shirt, so we wouldn't really be denying any positions of need this year to grab him.
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vagusnerve wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:Yeah, but he hurt it before the season, and even with a RS he would have 2 full years to recover. Why would he need 3? If it's not better in two years, it's probably never getting to 100% and he should just count his losses and get a degree and help out as a student coach or something on the team.
Yeah, I suppose you're right Buckmark...

I was just thinking that it's better for the player as well because he can greyshirt, then come in and play as a freshman and save the redshirt in case he tears the ACL again (which is overwhelmingly likely from the little I understand of these injuries).

Maybe I'm just being retarded? I don't know, seems like an ideal plan to me but what do I know!? :lol:

What do you think about Garrick then? Seems like the coaches like him (obviously!) and yet we may have to deny a high 4star prospect to get him. He's had 2 ACL injuries and definitely does not enjoy the rare quickness/speed/agility that Bigelow shows. Is he worth the risk then?

Not hating on sleepers, just wondering what you think about denying a 4 star DT, DB or WR in order to offer a 0 star OLB (NOT a position of need) with 2 ACL injuries?
I don't think they will deny anyone else a spot due to him. Plus, we have to remember that we are more than likely going to get Isaac Dixon, a DB/LB from last year's class who was grayshirting due to an injury suffered his SR year.
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Oregonian wrote:What's with this weird assumption amongst Duck fans that Seastrunk is only running left-to-right and isn't a good tailback? We've heard nothing about this.
It has actually been stated quite a bit. He likes to run east and west rather than north and south and dances too much rather than just hitting the hole.
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