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UofO8 wrote:
Oregonian wrote:What's with this weird assumption amongst Duck fans that Seastrunk is only running left-to-right and isn't a good tailback? We've heard nothing about this.
It has actually been stated quite a bit. He likes to run east and west rather than north and south and dances too much rather than just hitting the hole.
Pretty sure we heard this a bit about James his redshirt year. When he was on the scout team he'd bust some long plays and show flashes but a lot of people mentioned that he did his share of dancing as well.
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snapt wrote:Pretty sure we heard this a bit about James his redshirt year. When he was on the scout team he'd bust some long plays and show flashes but a lot of people mentioned that he did his share of dancing as well.
To an extent that may be true, but the bottom line is LaMichael was very impressive his redshirt year and his future greatness was very apparent. The coaches were not shy about pointing this out. I can assure you that Seastrunk has not made the same sort of impression his redshirt year that LaMichael did.
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thegreenstain wrote:
snapt wrote:Pretty sure we heard this a bit about James his redshirt year. When he was on the scout team he'd bust some long plays and show flashes but a lot of people mentioned that he did his share of dancing as well.
To an extent that may be true, but the bottom line is LaMichael was very impressive his redshirt year and his future greatness was very apparent. The coaches were not shy about pointing this out. I can assure you that Seastrunk has not made the same sort of impression his redshirt year that LaMichael did.
I think that could be a combination of a few things though. Chip was just getting his offense implemented during LMJ's freshman year. The defense wasn't used to it so it was particularly effective, especially with a guy like LMJ running the ball. I doubt that he would be as impressive against our current defense.
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I think if Lache improves his vision and patience behind the line that he will improve immensely because he has equal if not superior physical ability to Lamichal
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snapt wrote:
UofO8 wrote:
Oregonian wrote:What's with this weird assumption amongst Duck fans that Seastrunk is only running left-to-right and isn't a good tailback? We've heard nothing about this.
It has actually been stated quite a bit. He likes to run east and west rather than north and south and dances too much rather than just hitting the hole.
Pretty sure we heard this a bit about James his redshirt year. When he was on the scout team he'd bust some long plays and show flashes but a lot of people mentioned that he did his share of dancing as well.
No really. James was scout player of the week many many times his Freshman year, and the coaches kept going on and on about him during practices. Haven't seen even close to that praise about Lache this season.
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While Lache may not be a LMJ in running the scout team, it doesn't mean he's going to be a bad player. He'll likely have the luxury of playing behind LMJ and KB while sharing carries with Dontae. He's not going to have a ton of pressure on him to contribute so he can come along at his own pace. We were a little spoiled with LMJ his first 2 years so any one coming after him is going to have a hard time measuring up.
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I'm getting the impression that Lache is a different personality type to James. He's maybe not as comfortable taking a back-seat supporting cast role.

I don't mean that as a knock. I just think there's a good chance that he'll thrive once he gets a chance to be more of a feature.
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wheaton4prez wrote:I'm getting the impression that Lache is a different personality type to James. He's maybe not as comfortable taking a back-seat supporting cast role.

I don't mean that as a knock. I just think there's a good chance that he'll thrive once he gets a chance to be more of a feature.
I think you're right. I bet he'll be a much more motivated player once he has a shot at playing time. Some guys need a little bit more time to mature & "get it". Once he does he will be a force.
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dthomas=ddixon wrote:
wheaton4prez wrote:I'm getting the impression that Lache is a different personality type to James. He's maybe not as comfortable taking a back-seat supporting cast role.

I don't mean that as a knock. I just think there's a good chance that he'll thrive once he gets a chance to be more of a feature.
I think you're right. I bet he'll be a much more motivated player once he has a shot at playing time. Some guys need a little bit more time to mature & "get it". Once he does he will be a force.
Over the last decade or so we have had nothing but good or great running backs..Most of them didn't have half the raw talent lache has. We have NO reason to think that the coaches wont have him putting up great numbers and making huge plays..Of course he has to put the work in.
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Lache will be electrifying !!
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Why are we worried about a stud RB who is crazy fast, dude is going to be great, Coach Campbell will see to it!

Lets get back on the thread topic!
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Getting back on topic, it sounds like the WR crew will be awesome. I'm expecting Sumler, Blackmon Kelley and Vaughn to all sign on the dotted lines. And we definitely take Farmer & Lee if they want to be Ducks.

What do we do for the Dline though?

Ebert is in. We needed a JC DT for sure.

So do we take two more DEs and two more DTs?

I think so.

Jason Gibson, Kevin McReynolds, Mo Latu, Danny Shelton, Todd Barr, Greg Townsend
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Decisions, decisions...

I say 2-3 DTs and 1-2 Big DEs...

I want a stud front line to battle the power runners...

1. Bigelow
2. Carson (the Big back we are missing)
3. Blackmon
4. Kelley or Farmer
5. Vaughn/Carter/Lucien/ Lee
6. Shelton
7. Koa Ka'i
8. Lyerla/ Jon Davis/ French
9. McReynolds/ Delvon Simmons/ Mo Latu
10. 1 more LB: Ryan Simmons/Gibson/Branden Jackson/Dawson
11. Avery Walls/ or surprise

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briarduck wrote:Decisions, decisions...

I say 2-3 DTs and 1-2 Big DEs...

I want a stud front line to battle the power runners...

1. Bigelow (hopefully agrees to greyshirt)
2. Carson
3. Blackmon
4. Kelley or Farmer
5. Vaughn/Carter/Lucien/ Lee
6. Shelton
7. Koa Ka'i
8. Lyerla/ Jon Davis/ French
9. McReynolds/ Delvon Simmons/ Mo Latu
10. 1 more LB: Ryan Simmons/Gibson/Branden Jackson/Dawson
11. Avery Walls/ or surprise

Similar to others lists
Well some other people have scoffed at Bigelow greyshirting so it sounds unlikely.

If that is the case, then I don't think we take Tra Carson. No reason to take to RBs in this class and we are loading up on WRs instead.

For the last 11 spots, I think we take
1 RB
3-4 WR
2 DT
2 DE
1 TE
1-2 Wild Cards

Wish we could take 15 more guys cause they would all be top guys, but I guess that's a nice problem to have!
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Ya I just copied and pasted from earlier in the thread. I agree Bigelow won't greyshirt but I disagree that we aren't seriously considering Carson he's a bruiser that our offense really needs!

Man I agree, why can't we take more of these recruits...
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