Big news tomorrow?

[Autzenoise]

Ditto for me I got so sick of JHOP acting like he had breaking news just to learn
that 18 year old kids were jerking his chain. I prefer this board without JHOP although
I miss MOPS at times. At least IMHO he tried to give accurate up to date info.

I agree with this completely. I have no issue with either of them going off and getting paid, but when they both left there was a lot of "We will still come by. We aren't just walking away.".

*crickets*
Thats what we got from them after a couple weeks, well, other than when they come by trying to get members to fork over money for a sub. Yes they have gotten good info sometimes, but had they not had a place to post it, and a large number of Duck fans to push this site (us), they wouldn't have the success they have now. I just wish they would pay a little more respect to the site that got them going, or just not post at all here. Upsets me that they can only find the time to post here when they want our $$. Funny that Jhop used to be one of the biggest proponents of having free info posted here, but is now more than happy to keep it locked up there. Unfortunately it isn't about being a Duck fan for them anymore, it's about money.

/rant over, sorry TK, I know you guys are still friends.

[skdragon1]

To the guy above -
C'mon man, a job always takes precedence over the football team you root for. Jhop has always taken pains to be a class act. Professionally speaking, it's an obvious conflict of interest for him to break info here that's supposed to be the primary driver of his employer's revenue. As for 18 year old kids jerking his chain - it's just the nature of the game. It's all pretty straight forward IMO.

[briarduck]

^This. They are good guys, its just too bad for us that things changed and now we have to pay for the info we used to get for free.

I have no problem what they did, they turned their (our) passion into dollars I applaud them for that. They are good guys but business is business and now they are just marketing their efforts, don't be upset with that, that's life...if you don't want to pay for it don't give them your money BUT their info is as good as it gets and we all know it, its just not an accurate business!

My rant over...now lets get back to FB recruiting!

[jimmy12]

Off topic.... again... circle back... circle back.....

[Duck07]

Off topic.... again... circle back... circle back.....

bring it back to what? an over-hyped article?

[Autzenoise]

To the guy above -
C'mon man, a job always takes precedence over the football team you root for. Jhop has always taken pains to be a class act. Professionally speaking, it's an obvious conflict of interest for him to break info here that's supposed to be the primary driver of his employer's revenue. As for 18 year old kids jerking his chain - it's just the nature of the game. It's all pretty straight forward IMO.

I understand what you are saying, I just disagree with the bolded part.

I understand that business will always take precedence. I have been a salaried business person for many years. My issue comes when someone blatantly disregards a commitment. I don't want any inside info, or breaking news. I would just like for them to have followed through with what they said when they left. We were told there would be chats, and that they would still stop by.

I am not upset with these guys. They should be upset that they harmed potential relations with customers by making overcommitments that they did not follow through on. I am disappointed that on a personal and business level, they decided to burn a bridge (multiple I believe). I may never sign up for any of the premium sites as I don't see how being the one to read something first makes you any more of a fan. We can sit right here on this awesome board we have here and read it minutes later. I am ok with that. I am also ok with them making money breaking stories.

I am disappointed by someone telling me one thing, and doing another. That is a lack of integrity, and anyone in business knows integrity is what will make or break you.

Good luck to Jhop and MOPS in whatever they do, just don't expect me to back them up, or go pay them a sub. They lost my money when they showed me a lack of integrity.

[Bigducker]

Big news = essentially NO NEWS.

Thats what got me annoyed, If your saying big news it better be BIG news like a commit. That's what everyone one was saying and speculating on and then to say yeah the big news was were in a recruits top 2.
Huh, what, Huh..... Yeah, and I just saved a bundle on my car insurance. Lame !!

[glazeduck]

To the guy above -
C'mon man, a job always takes precedence over the football team you root for. Jhop has always taken pains to be a class act. Professionally speaking, it's an obvious conflict of interest for him to break info here that's supposed to be the primary driver of his employer's revenue. As for 18 year old kids jerking his chain - it's just the nature of the game. It's all pretty straight forward IMO.

I understand what you are saying, I just disagree with the bolded part.

I understand that business will always take precedence. I have been a salaried business person for many years. My issue comes when someone blatantly disregards a commitment. I don't want any inside info, or breaking news. I would just like for them to have followed through with what they said when they left. We were told there would be chats, and that they would still stop by.

I am not upset with these guys. They should be upset that they harmed potential relations with customers by making overcommitments that they did not follow through on. I am disappointed that on a personal and business level, they decided to burn a bridge (multiple I believe). I may never sign up for any of the premium sites as I don't see how being the one to read something first makes you any more of a fan. We can sit right here on this awesome board we have here and read it minutes later. I am ok with that. I am also ok with them making money breaking stories.

I am disappointed by someone telling me one thing, and doing another. That is a lack of integrity, and anyone in business knows integrity is what will make or break you.

Good luck to Jhop and MOPS in whatever they do, just don't expect me to back them up, or go pay them a sub. They lost my money when they showed me a lack of integrity.

Definitely understand your points and agree to a certain extent.

But, and I'm just playing devil's advocate here, when MOPS and Jhop left, they left with the intent to simply create their own paysite in hopes of 'making it big'. Since then, their site was swallowed by an up-and-coming site (247sports) which, I believe, has ramped up both of their workloads...

For awhile they both definitely came back every now and then. I guess I just see them having a very large workload now, sometimes these things happen...

[UOducksTK1]

Mops and jhop are good guys. If I were ever to pay for recruiting info, I'd go there. But with that being said, I agree with you guys that this place is good enough. Eventually all the information trickles down to here as time passes by. Maybe we don't get it a few hours before everyone else, but that doesn't matter too much for me.

Thanks for all the nice remarks here guys. I know I don't have much recruiting information to post around here, but I'm glad people still stick around.

[Bigducker]

This IS by far the best site out there, and I've paid for all of them. $10 bucks a month is too much for what you get. I paid $5 bucks a month for when Mops and jhop were with ESPN and I could deal with that but not $10. I can wait for the info.

[Autzenoise]

I am glad you aren't taking my comments about them personally. I am very glad to have been a part of this site for as long as I have, and your contributions by keeping this board up and active for as long as you have. I bold active because I have run a few sites, and keeping yourself from just taking a long break isn't easy, even when you love the content.

Thanks again TK and AJ.

[RuhlandAsherBestEver]

I to love this site. I could easily pay for "inside info" that never seems to pan out.I believe
that MOPS is a good guy and we would PM once in a while when I had more insight on the recruiting. JHOP on the other hand IMO is all about himself. I can't thank AJ and TK enough
for keeping this board alive. The one poster I really miss is D1 watcher but he was ran off by
some of the new negative posters. Oh well rant over.

[briarduck]

Mops and jhop are good guys. If I were ever to pay for recruiting info, I'd go there. But with that being said, I agree with you guys that this place is good enough. Eventually all the information trickles down to here as time passes by. Maybe we don't get it a few hours before everyone else, but that doesn't matter too much for me.

Thanks for all the nice remarks here guys. I know I don't have much recruiting information to post around here, but I'm glad people still stick around.

You know you saved us all from the other garbage out there (boards and trolls) and I agree waiting a few hours/days if fine with most of us but we will miss the early days of knowing all things before everyone else, oh well it was great while it lasted...

Thanks again TK and AJ (and all the members) for making this the best source for discussing all things Duck!

[dthomas=ddixon]

Yeah I pretty much agree with the sentiment in this thread. Mops is legit & from my experience he's the anti-Jhop. Has insane sources, almost always has spot on info but is chill & humble about it at the same time. He doesn't expect us all to be falling at his feet cuz he talked to some 4* we all want.

The thing with Jhop is a lot of us remember when he was a clueless poster like the rest of us that was desperate for some good "inside info". He worked his way into the recruiting info business, give him credit for that, but now he's big-timed all of us & the board.

I'm honestly kinda glad he doesn't post here anymore. He was getting pretty annoying before he left. It wasn't worth the info that was only good half of the time.

I do want to add, though, that JHop is a nice guy, I don't dislike him. He could be a lot worse, Steve Summers for example. And I've read that some of the guys over on Rivals can be huge jerks. All in all JHop is one of the nicer insider guys out there. Its just too bad he wasn't still a part of the board & cool about sharing info every once in awhile.

[karlhungis]

This board is missing K-Smack this year. I guess we have Bumi as a pseudo K-Smack but it isn't quite the same.