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Re: Some good info
Wow thats awesome news on Barr. I had written him off awhile ago. Its weird ho we heard nothing about him but he was close to committing on his visit.
Like the OP said, keep winning & we'll end up with most of these guys. The hype around a national title will be too much for a lot of them to resist. Especially if we win.
Like the OP said, keep winning & we'll end up with most of these guys. The hype around a national title will be too much for a lot of them to resist. Especially if we win.

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Re: Some good info
Some of the D-line stunts we run often ends up with DT as the force/contain player so it helps if he is athletic. I haven't seen any video on Tiny and how athletic he may or may not be, though Allioti may feel like that stunting is fairly crucial to our zone blitizing when the Defense has to decide who is blitzing where.uodux1212 wrote:Seems to me that with a big run stuffing guy in the middle (wouldnt have to be super "athletic") it would force teams to the edges, playing right into our scheme of a speedy/athletic defenders.... but what the hell do I know? I thought we were gonna be lucky to be bowl eligible after losing MasoliBigducker wrote:Don't think it's coach NA at all . I think it's coach Azz and maybe Chip, who prefers the taller more athletic DT's.Duck07 wrote:This is why I don't like NA. You take a guy like Vili and make packages around him. Just like the Ravens actually utilize the unreal strengths of Haloti (not saying Vili = HN), when you've got a guy that excels in eating up blockers, (especially with a heavy fire zone team like we are) you fricking use him! This isn't a case of building around a player instead of the team concept, but my goodness, in 2 of CK's 3 losses, a major component was not being able to stop the run right up the middle. You can put him in multiple schemes in our current D without having to sacrifice anything imo as the big knock would be fatigue but we already rotate so many guys period.glazeduck wrote:I've felt that way too and I think you're right...PDXShogun wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like our staff never made Moala a priority? I'm not even sure he ever got a legitimate offer from us and I know our staff prefers quicker attacking lineman over the hulking space-eater types. Despite being a 5* I'm not sure how well he fits our scheme.
Still, scheme or no scheme, it's hard to deny that one of our weaknesses, maybe our biggest weakness on D, is our ability to stuff the run, specifically up the middle. That's not likely to improve with Paysinger, Matthews, Bair, Clark, Turner, and Rowe all leaving... Also, say what you want about his deficiencies (not hard to see or diagnose) but TJax the 3rd is our best corner against the run, he's gone as well...
It's probably a fan- and video game-esque fantasy, but I'd have to think Vili's size and strength would help stop the run and open lanes for our other, more athletic DLmen and LBs
Also, I do not think our Run defense is bad at all... 16th in YPC against and 18th in YPG against
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Farmer imo.sx1080 wrote:brich75 wrote:WOW I DONT THINK i HAVE EVER SEEN A LIST OF GUYS LIKE THAT SO HIGH ON OREGON AT THE SAME TIME!?!?
I'd still take Colt over any of those guys.
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Re: Some good info
Colt's been my fave guy for awhile but I think Farmer has got to be #1 on everyones list. Look what Robert Woods has done at SC this year, I think Farmer could have a similar impact. What does Rivals have him? Like the #4 overall recruit? Guy is ridiculous.Bumi wrote:Farmer imo.sx1080 wrote:brich75 wrote:WOW I DONT THINK i HAVE EVER SEEN A LIST OF GUYS LIKE THAT SO HIGH ON OREGON AT THE SAME TIME!?!?
I'd still take Colt over any of those guys.
That said, I haven't allowed myself to get excited about him cuz there's a real good chance he ends up at SC ha. Would be an unbelievable pick up tho.

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Indeed. But as this season drags on and the situation at SC continues to worsen, I've become slightly more optimistic about the Ducks chances. His recruitment is one of the few reasons I'm hoping for a UCLA win this weekend.dthomas=ddixon wrote:Colt's been my fave guy for awhile but I think Farmer has got to be #1 on everyones list. Look what Robert Woods has done at SC this year, I think Farmer could have a similar impact. What does Rivals have him? Like the #4 overall recruit? Guy is ridiculous.Bumi wrote:Farmer imo.sx1080 wrote:brich75 wrote:WOW I DONT THINK i HAVE EVER SEEN A LIST OF GUYS LIKE THAT SO HIGH ON OREGON AT THE SAME TIME!?!?
I'd still take Colt over any of those guys.
That said, I haven't allowed myself to get excited about him cuz there's a real good chance he ends up at SC ha. Would be an unbelievable pick up tho.
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Re: Some good info
Agreed.Bumi wrote:Farmer imo.sx1080 wrote:brich75 wrote:WOW I DONT THINK i HAVE EVER SEEN A LIST OF GUYS LIKE THAT SO HIGH ON OREGON AT THE SAME TIME!?!?
I'd still take Colt over any of those guys.

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We have indicated their overall interest in Oregon next to their name.
Running Backs:
Brendon Bigelow- high
Tra Carson- very high
Wide Receivers:
Rahsaan Vaughn- high
BJ Kelley- very high
George Farmer- medium
Devon Blackmon- very high
Tight End:
Jon Davis- high
Christian French- med
Nick O' Leary- low
Brandon Fulse- low
Offensive line:
Paulay Asiata- medium
Defensive Tackle:
Todd Barr- medium
Christian Heyward- medium
Danny Shelton- high
Kevin McReynolds- med-high
Mo Latu- med-high
Delvon Simmons- med-high
Greg Townsend- low
Defensive End:
Colt Lyerla- high
Brennan Scarlett- med-low
Branden Jackson- med-high
Lake Koa Ka'ai- med-high
Jason Gibson- med
Linebackers:
Lamar Dawson- med
Ryan Simmons- med
Defensive Backs:
Marqise Lee- med-high
Running Backs:
Brendon Bigelow- high
Tra Carson- very high
Wide Receivers:
Rahsaan Vaughn- high
BJ Kelley- very high
George Farmer- medium
Devon Blackmon- very high
Tight End:
Jon Davis- high
Christian French- med
Nick O' Leary- low
Brandon Fulse- low
Offensive line:
Paulay Asiata- medium
Defensive Tackle:
Todd Barr- medium
Christian Heyward- medium
Danny Shelton- high
Kevin McReynolds- med-high
Mo Latu- med-high
Delvon Simmons- med-high
Greg Townsend- low
Defensive End:
Colt Lyerla- high
Brennan Scarlett- med-low
Branden Jackson- med-high
Lake Koa Ka'ai- med-high
Jason Gibson- med
Linebackers:
Lamar Dawson- med
Ryan Simmons- med
Defensive Backs:
Marqise Lee- med-high
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Re: Some good info
Whatever happened to Isiah Norton too? He was a DT that had it between us and Baylor if memory serves.
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If anything, I think he's probably a fallback guy if we don't land one of the bigger DT targets.bellsduck wrote:Whatever happened to Isiah Norton too? He was a DT that had it between us and Baylor if memory serves.

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Without any specific knowledge or access to 'insider' information, I'm going to attempt to connect the dots here...bellsduck wrote:Whatever happened to Isiah Norton too? He was a DT that had it between us and Baylor if memory serves.
The above list was posted on 247 by JHop.
Interesting timing to ask about Norton, because JHop posted a recruiting "update" about him today as well...
Putting 2 and 2 together and not seeing Norton's name on that list that JHop published, my guess is that we're out of it for him...
That said, I don't think anyone who knows how Hop and Mops roll would be surprised if this list is only a partial one...
Someone w/ a 247 subscription can probably confirm or deny this theory...
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Re: Some good info
^briarduck wrote:^ Tiny is probably my favorite out of all our recruits on my updated wish list and if they are a package deal that would be unbelievable if we land them both BUT it also works against us big time!
We will see...
...this time last year there was talk about the Ducks being on the "outside" in having a shot at getting Heimuli....and we landed him! i STILL think we have a chance if the RIGHT ppl bend Moala's ear (ie Haloti)....and if anyone can sell the prOgram to him....it's Haloti!
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Re: Some good info
I highly doubt that Heyward is in our plans at all right now on the DL unless we crash & burn with guys like Shelton, Latu & McReynolds. Even a kid like Delvon Simmons, from back back east, is better odds than Heyward. Until he schedules a trip, he's out.
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jimmy12 wrote:We have indicated their overall interest in Oregon next to their name.
Running Backs:
Brendon Bigelow- high
Tra Carson- very high
Wide Receivers:
Rahsaan Vaughn- high
BJ Kelley- very high
George Farmer- medium
Devon Blackmon- very high
Tight End:
Jon Davis- high
Christian French- med
Nick O' Leary- low
Brandon Fulse- low
Offensive line:
Paulay Asiata- medium
Defensive Tackle:
Todd Barr- medium
Christian Heyward- medium
Danny Shelton- high
Kevin McReynolds- med-high
Mo Latu- med-high
Delvon Simmons- med-high
Greg Townsend- low
Defensive End:
Colt Lyerla- high
Brennan Scarlett- med-low
Branden Jackson- med-high
Lake Koa Ka'ai- med-high
Jason Gibson- med
Linebackers:
Lamar Dawson- med
Ryan Simmons- med
Defensive Backs:
Marqise Lee- med-high
I saw from Jhop that he's pretty sure on Bigelow, Kelley and Shelton. I think we can pencil those guys in.
I see it like this:
Shelton
Ebert
McReynolds OR Latu
Barr
Kamp
Cassell
Wallace
Wilson
Garrick
Coleman
Ekpre Olomu
Randall
Mariota
Bigelow
Kelley
Sumler
Vaughn
Blackmon
Lyerla
Yruretoagoynea
Eushcher
Johnstone
Prater
That's 23, and maybe two of: Lee Farmer Carson Simmmons Jackson Dawson makes 25.
The issue we have right now (as far as i can tell) is that we have some serious needs at three positions, DE, DT and WR....
But we only have about 10 scholarships left. So assuming we take 4 WRs & 7 DLs, that doesn't leave a whole lot of room. So some high rated players are gonna get left out.
Real question to me is, do Garrick and Wilson have commitable offers?
I know there has been talk that one or both of them don't. You've got to wonder about the "project" type guys like Prater, Garrick and Wilson. Do we still take these guys if, for instance, Greg Townsend or George Farmer want in? I mean, really?
Does anyone know how this all works?
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Exactly, we wouldn't to lose slicky Ricky so they could actually find a good coach.Biggus Duckus wrote:I'm hoping for a UCLA win simply so their administration thinks Neuheisel is doing good enough of a job.
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Winning is apparently everything. Barr would be a tremendous pick up. I mean we are talking about a top 10 DT with big time smarts (3.7 GPA).brich75 wrote:WOW I DONT THINK i HAVE EVER SEEN A LIST OF GUYS LIKE THAT SO HIGH ON OREGON AT THE SAME TIME!?!?
I love it

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