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UOducksTK1 wrote:
brich75 wrote:WOW I DONT THINK i HAVE EVER SEEN A LIST OF GUYS LIKE THAT SO HIGH ON OREGON AT THE SAME TIME!?!?
Winning is apparently everything. Barr would be a tremendous pick up. I mean we are talking about a top 10 DT with big time smarts (3.7 GPA).

I love it
agreed, Barr would be sweet.

we really need some badass dudes on the DL
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PDXShogun wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like our staff never made Moala a priority? I'm not even sure he ever got a legitimate offer from us and I know our staff prefers quicker attacking lineman over the hulking space-eater types. Despite being a 5* I'm not sure how well he fits our scheme.
I've felt that way too and I think you're right...

Still, scheme or no scheme, it's hard to deny that one of our weaknesses, maybe our biggest weakness on D, is our ability to stuff the run, specifically up the middle. That's not likely to improve with Paysinger, Matthews, Bair, Clark, Turner, and Rowe all leaving... Also, say what you want about his deficiencies (not hard to see or diagnose) but TJax the 3rd is our best corner against the run, he's gone as well...

It's probably a fan- and video game-esque fantasy, but I'd have to think Vili's size and strength would help stop the run and open lanes for our other, more athletic DLmen and LBs
This is why I don't like NA. You take a guy like Vili and make packages around him. Just like the Ravens actually utilize the unreal strengths of Haloti (not saying Vili = HN), when you've got a guy that excels in eating up blockers, (especially with a heavy fire zone team like we are) you fricking use him! This isn't a case of building around a player instead of the team concept, but my goodness, in 2 of CK's 3 losses, a major component was not being able to stop the run right up the middle. You can put him in multiple schemes in our current D without having to sacrifice anything imo as the big knock would be fatigue but we already rotate so many guys period.
Don't think it's coach NA at all . I think it's coach Azz and maybe Chip, who prefers the taller more athletic DT's.
Ever consider maybe it is not that they think his style would not fit, but maybe they just think he is a little overrated? If they really never went that hard after him, that would be the most logical explanation. Either that or they are worried about him qualifying.
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I've watched Vili play and he was double and triple teamed all night long. If thats all he did at Oregon, it is a huge advantage for the defense.
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I'm as excited about all these recruits having so much interest in Oregon, but at the same time I don't what get my hopes up. It seems like last year there was alot of talk about getting tons of top players and not getting most of them outside of Rickey. I know this year is different with being undeafted and I trust all the insiders, but maybe it's just me and not get too excited until its offical.
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thomas time wrote:I'm as excited about all these recruits having so much interest in Oregon, but at the same time I don't what get my hopes up. It seems like last year there was alot of talk about getting tons of top players and not getting most of them outside of Rickey. I know this year is different with being undeafted and I trust all the insiders, but maybe it's just me and not get too excited until its offical.
While there will be some disappointments this recruiting cycle, I have a feeling that there just won't be as many as in past years.
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http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/blog?nam ... id=5876077
Also visiting the Bears is national recruit and Under Armour All-American Todd Barr (Lakewood, Calif.). Barr has taken several unofficial visits to Berkeley and has come close to committing to the Bears multiple times.

He has also officially visited Washington, Florida and Oregon and was set to visit Miami in two weeks but will no longer take that visit. Getting Barr to take an official visit is huge for Cal as it will allow them one last shot to land the talented defensive tackle.

Following his visit to Florida, Barr was ready to commit to the Gators. He had a home visit Wednesday night with Gator coach Brian White and although the visit went very well, the general feeling from those close to Barr is this will come down to the Bears and Ducks.

Barr's official visit to Oregon a few weeks back was eye-opening and, like his Florida trip, the athlete was ready to commit to the Ducks a few days after he returned. So far in his recruitment, the general theme seems to be whoever talks to Barr last is the new leader, which could put the Bears in good shape if he decides to commit shortly after his weekend visit.


I would be pretty surprised if he doesn't commit to Cal this time.
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^There are always a few each year who have tough time making a decision, hopefully he makes the best choice for himself on not for ever is just last...
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Boom wrote:http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/blog?nam ... id=5876077
Also visiting the Bears is national recruit and Under Armour All-American Todd Barr (Lakewood, Calif.). Barr has taken several unofficial visits to Berkeley and has come close to committing to the Bears multiple times.

He has also officially visited Washington, Florida and Oregon and was set to visit Miami in two weeks but will no longer take that visit. Getting Barr to take an official visit is huge for Cal as it will allow them one last shot to land the talented defensive tackle.

Following his visit to Florida, Barr was ready to commit to the Gators. He had a home visit Wednesday night with Gator coach Brian White and although the visit went very well, the general feeling from those close to Barr is this will come down to the Bears and Ducks.

Barr's official visit to Oregon a few weeks back was eye-opening and, like his Florida trip, the athlete was ready to commit to the Ducks a few days after he returned. So far in his recruitment, the general theme seems to be whoever talks to Barr last is the new leader, which could put the Bears in good shape if he decides to commit shortly after his weekend visit.


I would be pretty surprised if he doesn't commit to Cal this time.
The longer he delay's his commitment the stronger the Ducks chances are IMO. As long as the Ducks go to the NC game.
There'll be more and more pub building up on the Ducks as the days go by as they approach the NC, which will be great for the Ducks recruiting, not only this year but for years to come. He won't hear squat about the Bears on ESPN. :lol:
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^^^ The only thing about Cal he's gonna hear on ESPN is that their Dline coach had his players fake injuries because he didn't believe in his players enough. For all of the good things that Tosh does, this should speak volumes to recruits.
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ncduck wrote:^^^ The only thing about Cal he's gonna hear on ESPN is that their Dline coach had his players fake injuries because he didn't believe in his players enough. For all of the good things that Tosh does, this should speak volumes to recruits.
I personally think that Tedford was completely aware of what was going on there and just used Tosh as the scapegoat. To me, that speaks volumes about the integrity of both coaches.

That being said, though it may make a difference to some kids, who may have had a good upbringing, I doubt that it will have that much of an impact on most. We have to keep in mind that these are kids and most of them are still very immature. They have role models like T.O. and LeBron, both of whom are all about the "WIIFM" (what's in it for me?).

Also, how many times do we see a receiver swear that they caught a pass when they know darn good and well that they didn't? There again, how many times do we see teams rushing to the line of scrimmage to get a play off before the previous play can be reviewed?

Will players and coaches cheat if they can get away with it? You bet they will.

What happened during the Cal game was really sad on their part. Unfortunately, things like this have become part of the game, so I don't think it will have too many long term effects on their recruiting.
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Boom wrote:http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/blog?nam ... id=5876077
Also visiting the Bears is national recruit and Under Armour All-American Todd Barr (Lakewood, Calif.). Barr has taken several unofficial visits to Berkeley and has come close to committing to the Bears multiple times.

He has also officially visited Washington, Florida and Oregon and was set to visit Miami in two weeks but will no longer take that visit. Getting Barr to take an official visit is huge for Cal as it will allow them one last shot to land the talented defensive tackle.

Following his visit to Florida, Barr was ready to commit to the Gators. He had a home visit Wednesday night with Gator coach Brian White and although the visit went very well, the general feeling from those close to Barr is this will come down to the Bears and Ducks.

Barr's official visit to Oregon a few weeks back was eye-opening and, like his Florida trip, the athlete was ready to commit to the Ducks a few days after he returned. So far in his recruitment, the general theme seems to be whoever talks to Barr last is the new leader, which could put the Bears in good shape if he decides to commit shortly after his weekend visit.


I would be pretty surprised if he doesn't commit to Cal this time.
Sometimes its easy to forget that these recruits are only 17 and 18 years old... until you read something like this.
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uo2010 wrote:
Boom wrote:http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/blog?nam ... id=5876077
Also visiting the Bears is national recruit and Under Armour All-American Todd Barr (Lakewood, Calif.). Barr has taken several unofficial visits to Berkeley and has come close to committing to the Bears multiple times.

He has also officially visited Washington, Florida and Oregon and was set to visit Miami in two weeks but will no longer take that visit. Getting Barr to take an official visit is huge for Cal as it will allow them one last shot to land the talented defensive tackle.

Following his visit to Florida, Barr was ready to commit to the Gators. He had a home visit Wednesday night with Gator coach Brian White and although the visit went very well, the general feeling from those close to Barr is this will come down to the Bears and Ducks.

Barr's official visit to Oregon a few weeks back was eye-opening and, like his Florida trip, the athlete was ready to commit to the Ducks a few days after he returned. So far in his recruitment, the general theme seems to be whoever talks to Barr last is the new leader, which could put the Bears in good shape if he decides to commit shortly after his weekend visit.


I would be pretty surprised if he doesn't commit to Cal this time.
Sometimes its easy to forget that these recruits are only 17 and 18 years old... until you read something like this.
It sometimes is since once they hit the football field, we don't notice it. At this age, they don't all have the reasoning and decision-making skills yet to be fully aware of the impacts one decision will make. This is where good parents and/or advisers comes into play.
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sounds like had a good time at Cal according Biggins.

*sigh*
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duckydoug wrote:sounds like had a good time at Cal according Biggins.

*sigh*
Seriously, how often does a recruit not enjoy an official visit visit? Probably in the 5-10% category.
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Cal thinks they now lead for Barr, Bigelow and Blackmon....
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My source just said Chip is officially back!
It will be announced at Autzen press conference tomorrow afternoon!
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