BJ Kelley

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brich75 wrote:Just my opinion, but if they are dodging his call thats chicken s***. They either need to tell him he is in or they are going to pass on him.
Agree. They require players to be honest with the coaching staff; the coaches need to adhere to the same standards.
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brich75 wrote:Just my opinion, but if they are dodging his call thats chicken s***. They either need to tell him he is in or they are going to pass on him.
Completely agree. I know that this practice is fairly common in recruiting, but this is pretty low. Chip talks about having integrity and not pulling offers from injured players.

I'm gonna wait and see how this plays out, but if Kelley ends up going elsewhere because the coaching staff ignored him, then I'm going to be pretty disappointed by the coaching staff's actions.
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uostudent wrote:From ESPN
B.J. Kelley still high on Oregon

All year long, it seemed like just a matter of time before receiver B.J. Kelley (Fresno, Calif./Central) committed to his long time favorite, the Oregon Ducks. Now things look a little more up in the air.

Kelley is a big time talent and had a huge senior season. His senior film is as impressive as any receiver in the region and he finished the year with 51 catches for 1,223 yards and 16 touchdowns.

Kelley took official visits to Arizona and Arizona State and was hoping to visit Oregon this coming weekend. The plan was to commit to the Ducks while on the visit but those plans may be changing.
Justin on 247 just posted something about Kelley and the next poster responded about us "jerking kids around". I hope they didn't tell him that they are waiting on some other WR's....

If Kelley wants to commit to Oregon - they need to take him. The kid has great speed and excellent hands. He would be an outstanding fit in this offense.
Maybe a stupid question, I just got ESPN subscription and cannot find the info you posted. Where do I find it?...help :oops:
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uostudent wrote:
brich75 wrote:Just my opinion, but if they are dodging his call thats chicken s***. They either need to tell him he is in or they are going to pass on him.
Completely agree. I know that this practice is fairly common in recruiting, but this is pretty low. Chip talks about having integrity and not pulling offers from injured players.

I'm gonna wait and see how this plays out, but if Kelley ends up going elsewhere because the coaching staff ignored him, then I'm going to be pretty disappointed by the coaching staff's actions.

Yeah, it's not cool for grown men to manipulate 17 and 18 year old kids. Seriously.

For sure we don't know the whole story on this. Maybe he commits this weekend, maybe there was a miscommunication, whatever, we really have nothing to go off of.

I'll throw my hat in with the group that digs on Kelley.

But if CK and staff think they have a great shot at Farmer and Lee, that's two WRs to go along with Blackmon, Sumler and also Vaughn. Five total.... and six is just way too many.

Now it seems like Hakeem Flowers and JaJuan Story are in the mix as well. Crazy.
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vagusnerve wrote:
For sure we don't know the whole story on this.
Exactly. This is all a huge reaction over a sensationalistic opinion piece on recruiting. This is the worst time of year because people like to make stories out of nothing. Nobody knows what the coaches are doing here, what's been said and what hasn't. Let's just wait and see.

At the end of the day, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't end up with Kelley or Bigelow. It seems like Bigelow is drinking the Cal koolaid now and I wouldn't be surprised to see Kelley follow him there.
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WE DONT NEED BIGS! B.J. is a good looking prospect, but Farmer, Blackmon, Lee, Ja'juan, and Flowers are all better prospects, I think you guys are wanting B.J. more because of BIGS. We are stacked at RB and I dont see the need to get one untill next year. WR, DL, OLine, and LB are where this team needs improvment on, and losing Bigs and Kelley for possibly Lee, Farmer and Gibson is WAY more benifical to this team then a RB with a Torn ACL who will most likly never be the same running back he once was.
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Duckattack7 wrote:WE DONT NEED BIGS! B.J. is a good looking prospect, but Farmer, Blackmon, Lee, Ja'juan, and Flowers are all better prospects, I think you guys are wanting B.J. more because of BIGS. We are stacked at RB and I dont see the need to get one untill next year. WR, DL, OLine, and LB are where this team needs improvment on, and losing Bigs and Kelley for possibly Lee, Farmer and Gibson is WAY more benifical to this team then a RB with a Torn ACL who will most likly never be the same running back he once was.

I agree about Bigelow.

I'd love to have him come in and heal up and be ready to go in two years as a rs soph.

But, as you said, we've only got 10 or 11 spots left and we absolutely, positively need WRs (including TEs) and DLs.

There may be guys coming in at other positions, I would think at least two.

But it's just not a priority.
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Meyer leaving, Rich Rod probably getting the axe in January to avoid a big payout. Aren't Florida and Michaigan out?
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Personally, I would like that at least 1/2 the guys we pick as WR be proven big-time receivers at the high-school level as opposed to athletes being projected as WRs. Kelley is a proven WR.

Sumlar and Blackmon are both receivers at schools that barely throw. Story is a QB. These guys could all be great but I'd like the Ducks to get at least a couple of guys who have proven in games not camps that they can run routes and make catches while the defense knows they are the go to guy.
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I'm gonna go ahead and trust that the coaches know what they are doing. If there's a lack of communication of miscommunication, I trust it will be remedied.
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ncduck wrote:I'm gonna go ahead and trust that the coaches know what they are doing. If there's a lack of communication of miscommunication, I trust it will be remedied.
It more than likely is a miscommunication as I be the coaches have been getting contacted by a lot of recruits and preparing for games/practices that his calls just get misplaced or forgotten. It could also be a sign that he's not high enough on their list to not return his calls, which is kind of classless to leave a kid hanging like that.
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GrandpaDuck wrote:Personally, I would like that at least 1/2 the guys we pick as WR be proven big-time receivers at the high-school level as opposed to athletes being projected as WRs. Kelley is a proven WR.

Sumlar and Blackmon are both receivers at schools that barely throw. Story is a QB. These guys could all be great but I'd like the Ducks to get at least a couple of guys who have proven in games not camps that they can run routes and make catches while the defense knows they are the go to guy.
Blackmon is also a QB in high school.

Josh Huff primarily played QB and RB in high school. Both Blackmon and Story will be able to make the transition to WR.
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GrandpaDuck wrote:Personally, I would like that at least 1/2 the guys we pick as WR be proven big-time receivers at the high-school level as opposed to athletes being projected as WRs. Kelley is a proven WR.

Sumlar and Blackmon are both receivers at schools that barely throw. Story is a QB. These guys could all be great but I'd like the Ducks to get at least a couple of guys who have proven in games not camps that they can run routes and make catches while the defense knows they are the go to guy.
Sorry, i will take Sumler and Blackmon over Kelley in a heartbeat. Blackmon is a freak Athlete and could probably play any skilled position he wanted, AND he plays WR in HS....along with RB and QB (an athlete like that in HS can play WR in college) and Sumler is one of the top WR for a reason. Oh, and he is probably the fastest recruit in the entire nation.
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BJ Kelley is a Markus Wheaton clone. I really wish the Ducks would have landed Markus. He would have been a big contributor, particularly next season, and it would have taken what is going to be a very dangerous weapon over the next couple years away from the Beavers.
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UofO8 wrote:
GrandpaDuck wrote:Personally, I would like that at least 1/2 the guys we pick as WR be proven big-time receivers at the high-school level as opposed to athletes being projected as WRs. Kelley is a proven WR.

Sumler and Blackmon are both receivers at schools that barely throw. Story is a QB. These guys could all be great but I'd like the Ducks to get at least a couple of guys who have proven in games not camps that they can run routes and make catches while the defense knows they are the go to guy.
Sorry, i will take Sumler and Blackmon over Kelley in a heartbeat. Blackmon is a freak Athlete and could probably play any skilled position he wanted, AND he plays WR in HS....along with RB and QB (an athlete like that in HS can play WR in college) and Sumler is one of the top WR for a reason. Oh, and he is probably the fastest recruit in the entire nation.
I am not ranking Kelley over Sumler and Blackmon. I am saying in the final mix I like to see a mixture between guys who are high potential athletes and those who have actually had high success at the position in actual games. The reason being that some recruits work out, others don't. The percentages to me seem to run better with players with previous success at the same position though even many in this group don't turn out. Just my personal meaningless preference for feeling more confident about the future.
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