uostudent wrote:Anyone else think that Cal coaches are using negative recruiting tactics against Oregon?
"The weather sucks"
"Eugene is boring and it's not diverse"
"UO sucks academically compared to Cal"
"Oregon's offense is overrated. We would have beaten them had we made a field goal"
In fairness...
True for like 75% of the year
For some city kids, it could be boring. And it's racially damn near homogenous.
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There are valid reasons for kids to choose Cal over us. It's really getting on my nerves how much we on this board whine when kids choose other schools. We're doing just fine with what we get.
Assuming that coaching and player development were equal......... and your a defensive player........ then there's no real good reason to pick Oregon over Cal.
Boom wrote:Assuming that coaching and player development were equal......... and your a defensive player........ then there's no real good reason to pick Oregon over Cal.
Certainly the fact that Cal runs the 34 has nothing to do with these choices either...
Oregon can't tell a kid that wants to learn 5 technique that this is the best place for them. The two defensive systems we run are a very good reason why 1 player might prefer Cal to Oregon, all things being equal.
Boom wrote:Assuming that coaching and player development were equal......... and your a defensive player........ then there's no real good reason to pick Oregon over Cal.
Right. Because 18 year olds, most of whom will never play professionally, should have nothing on their mind but football. It's not like there's any other reason to go to college, right?
uostudent wrote:Anyone else think that Cal coaches are using negative recruiting tactics against Oregon?
"The weather sucks"
"Eugene is boring and it's not diverse"
"UO sucks academically compared to Cal"
"Oregon's offense is overrated. We would have beaten them had we made a field goal"
In fairness...
True for like 75% of the year
For some city kids, it could be boring. And it's racially damn near homogenous.
True
Untrue
There are valid reasons for kids to choose Cal over us. It's really getting on my nerves how much we on this board whine when kids choose other schools. We're doing just fine with what we get.
The weather in Berkeley isn't great either. Compared to Eugene, it's slightly warmer and probably rains a little less. Both cities have vastly different weather than LA.
The diversity thing - Richmond is right next door. Eugene is ridiculously white though, as is the whole state of Oregon.
Academics- most recruits who go to Cal are pretty mediocre students. Barr is definitely an exception from this year's class - he's an excellent student. Walls is also a solid student. I'm guessing that Cal's coaches are completely trashing Oregon's academics though - comparing it to ASU. I knew someone who used to be a GA at Michigan and he told me that when they were speaking to recruits, they would speak poorly about Ohio State's academics. What Cal's coaches aren't telling recruits is that a sociology degree from Berkeley is pretty worthless. Some of these recruits go to Cal thinking that they are going to come away with a business degree from Haas. The coaches don't mention that Haas' acceptance is less than 15%.
One of my friends graduated from Berkeley last fall with a degree in poli sci and he still hasn't found a job (any job - not even a retail job). Cal is an outstanding school, but their alumni are not nearly as helpful as Stanford or USC's.
“If everybody in this room just want to be real with themselves, this game could have went either way,” he said. “We turned the ball over a lot. We beat ourself. Just be real with yourself right now. We beat ourself.”
-Jameis Winston after Oregon's decisive 59-20 victory over Florida State in the Rose Bowl
Boom wrote:Assuming that coaching and player development were equal......... and your a defensive player........ then there's no real good reason to pick Oregon over Cal.
Right. Because 18 year olds, most of whom will never play professionally, should have nothing on their mind but football. It's not like there's any other reason to go to college, right?
your making my point.....
I think most logical people can see that Cal has several significant advantages to sell kids on that aren't football related.
Boom wrote:Assuming that coaching and player development were equal......... and your a defensive player........ then there's no real good reason to pick Oregon over Cal.
Right. Because 18 year olds, most of whom will never play professionally, should have nothing on their mind but football. It's not like there's any other reason to go to college, right?
your making my point.....
I think most logical people can see that Cal has several significant advantages to sell kids on that aren't football related.
#1 being academics
Oh sorry, I read it as "Cal over Oregon". Anyway, I think there are valid reasons to pick either school. Just depends on what a recruit wants out of college.
Some of you really don't think highly or UO or the state of Oregon glad your not out recruiting for UO.
Not everyone wants to deal with millions of people and go to a school like Cal, or they would be a lot better over their history. Fact is UO offers a ton to kids but some of you just refuse to see that. I know LMJ said he almost didn't visit because he thought Eugene was to big for what he likes, so don't mistake what you like for what everyone else likes.
IMO if it wasn't for the support from Nike.. facilities and our coaches we would look a lot like Oregon State....... I think our state and our university do very little to attract recruits to our football team.......I've never heard of a recruit or even a former player rave about Eugene, academics, or the weather..... It's always Nike, facilities, and family atmosphere (players & coaching staff).
Completely disagree. I have heard players and recruits rave about the fan support, the environment at Autzen, etc. Oregon is a beautiful place, and while not everyone likes the rain, there are still more people here that came from somewhere else, including my own family. That tells you something about its attractiveness to outsiders.
I don't have a problem with a kid staying in L.A. because of the nightlife or because his posse is there, or he likes the weather more, etc. I would not change Oregon for California in a million years, five-star recruits or no five-star recruits. It is not all about winning if you lose your soul, and besides, we seem to be doing okay anyway in the wins department.
Cal is making wholesale changes right now that I don't think will actually help them. High turnover of a coaching staff will eventually catch up with them in recruiting.
