Recruit rankings

[Supreme]

Take a look at the Rivals Freshman All-American team (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/conte ... ID=1164970) and notice the number of stars each received out of high school. I realize many blue chip players choose elite programs and must 'wait their turn' but it is interesting the AA team has more 2 star than 5 star players, and more ranked 3 star than 4 star.

There just isn't that much distance between a 3 and 5 star rating.

Generally, yes there is.

Reggie Bush, Percy Harvin, Adrian Peterson, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, AJ Green, Julio Jones, Da'Quan Bowers, Patrick Peterson, Vontaze Burfict, Vince Young,
Haloti Ngata, Ted Ginn Jr., Rey Maualuga, Mark Sanchez, Jonathan Stewart, DeSean Jackson, Darren McFadden, Chris Wells, C.J. Spiller, Taylor Mays, Brandon Spikes, Eric Berry, Ryan Mallet, etc, etc, etc. The list goes on and on. Yes, there are 3* prospects that turn out to be great, but not nearly at the ratio that 5* prospects do. In fact, looking at the above list, generally, the most dynamic players in the nation at any given time were or are 5* recruits.

With that said, I believe the recruiting services predictions are better served for the collegiate game as opposed to the pro game.

On the other hand, if you look at the ten players who were named unanimous All-Americans this year 70% of them were rated 3 star by Rivals.

Two things.

1. There are a lot more 3 star prospects than their are 5 star prospects.

2. The All American list, for the most part, is composed of upperclassmen. There are tons of 5*(and high 4's for that matter) that declare early for the draft.

Since the NFL requires at least three years of college I'm not sure how you are defining 'upperclassmen'.

Seniors aren't upperclassmen, and redshirt sophomores aren't underclassmen?

[maxduck]

There just isn't that much distance between a 3 and 5 star rating.

Generally, yes there is.

Reggie Bush, Percy Harvin, Adrian Peterson, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, AJ Green, Julio Jones, Da'Quan Bowers, Patrick Peterson, Vontaze Burfict, Vince Young,
Haloti Ngata, Ted Ginn Jr., Rey Maualuga, Mark Sanchez, Jonathan Stewart, DeSean Jackson, Darren McFadden, Chris Wells, C.J. Spiller, Taylor Mays, Brandon Spikes, Eric Berry, Ryan Mallet, etc, etc, etc. The list goes on and on. Yes, there are 3* prospects that turn out to be great, but not nearly at the ratio that 5* prospects do. In fact, looking at the above list, generally, the most dynamic players in the nation at any given time were or are 5* recruits.

With that said, I believe the recruiting services predictions are better served for the collegiate game as opposed to the pro game.

On the other hand, if you look at the ten players who were named unanimous All-Americans this year 70% of them were rated 3 star by Rivals.

Two things.

1. There are a lot more 3 star prospects than their are 5 star prospects.

2. The All American list, for the most part, is composed of upperclassmen. There are tons of 5*(and high 4's for that matter) that declare early for the draft.

Since the NFL requires at least three years of college I'm not sure how you are defining 'upperclassmen'.

Seniors aren't upperclassmen, and redshirt sophomores aren't underclassmen?

Is your argument is that only seniors are 'upperclassmen'? I'm asking that you define your terms since they are central to your assertions.

[wheaton4prez]

Take a look at the Rivals Freshman All-American team (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/conte ... ID=1164970) and notice the number of stars each received out of high school. I realize many blue chip players choose elite programs and must 'wait their turn' but it is interesting the AA team has more 2 star than 5 star players, and more ranked 3 star than 4 star.

There just isn't that much distance between a 3 and 5 star rating.

Generally, yes there is.

Reggie Bush, Percy Harvin, Adrian Peterson, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, AJ Green, Julio Jones, Da'Quan Bowers, Patrick Peterson, Vontaze Burfict, Vince Young,
Haloti Ngata, Ted Ginn Jr., Rey Maualuga, Mark Sanchez, Jonathan Stewart, DeSean Jackson, Darren McFadden, Chris Wells, C.J. Spiller, Taylor Mays, Brandon Spikes, Eric Berry, Ryan Mallet, etc, etc, etc. The list goes on and on. Yes, there are 3* prospects that turn out to be great, but not nearly at the ratio that 5* prospects do. In fact, looking at the above list, generally, the most dynamic players in the nation at any given time were or are 5* recruits.

With that said, I believe the recruiting services predictions are better served for the collegiate game as opposed to the pro game.

That list doesn't really demonstrate anything. I could make a list of now well known 3* players.

I wouldn't disagree that the ratio of 5* players turning out well is higher to some degree (it doesn't take rocket scientists for scout services to make the most obvious observations). Like I said, the distance just isn't as much as the hype over 5* players leads some to believe. The scouts over-look players that exceed expectations, don't fit the mold, etc. at least as often as they pick quality players.

[Boom]

generally, the most dynamic players in the nation at any given time were or are 5* recruits.

Who were the most dynamic players this year? Cam Newton was 5* yes..... but Andrew Luck was a 4*..... I think Marcus Lattimore was the only 5* player who was in the top 25 rushing the ball this year... who's the dynamic 5* DT this year? wasn't Marcell Dareus, Stephen Paea, & Nick Fairly rated lower? Justin Blackmon was easily the most dynamic WR this year and he was only a 3*

As far as the ratings go.... I doubt that the ratio of success of 5* players are significantly higher than 4*

[duckfan96]

The two teams in college football with the most 5 star recruits on their team...are not playing in the NC. Not that that means anything just saying.

[buckmarkduck]

On Scout Luck was a 5* and 4th overall QB, and Paea was a 3* JC player.

[duck55]

Take a look at the Rivals Freshman All-American team (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/conte ... ID=1164970) and notice the number of stars each received out of high school. I realize many blue chip players choose elite programs and must 'wait their turn' but it is interesting the AA team has more 2 star than 5 star players, and more ranked 3 star than 4 star.

There just isn't that much distance between a 3 and 5 star rating.

Generally, yes there is.

Reggie Bush, Percy Harvin, Adrian Peterson, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, AJ Green, Julio Jones, Da'Quan Bowers, Patrick Peterson, Vontaze Burfict, Vince Young,
Haloti Ngata, Ted Ginn Jr., Rey Maualuga, Mark Sanchez, Jonathan Stewart, DeSean Jackson, Darren McFadden, Chris Wells, C.J. Spiller, Taylor Mays, Brandon Spikes, Eric Berry, Ryan Mallet, etc, etc, etc. The list goes on and on. Yes, there are 3* prospects that turn out to be great, but not nearly at the ratio that 5* prospects do. In fact, looking at the above list, generally, the most dynamic players in the nation at any given time were or are 5* recruits.

With that said, I believe the recruiting services predictions are better served for the collegiate game as opposed to the pro game.

On the other hand, if you look at the ten players who were named unanimous All-Americans this year 70% of them were rated 3 star by Rivals.

Two things.

1. There are a lot more 3 star prospects than their are 5 star prospects.

2. The All American list, for the most part, is composed of upperclassmen. There are tons of 5*(and high 4's for that matter) that declare early for the draft.

Since the NFL requires at least three years of college I'm not sure how you are defining 'upperclassmen'.

R.S. Soph's qualify as 3 years in.

[RanDux]

Take a look at the Rivals Freshman All-American team (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/conte ... ID=1164970) and notice the number of stars each received out of high school. I realize many blue chip players choose elite programs and must 'wait their turn' but it is interesting the AA team has more 2 star than 5 star players, and more ranked 3 star than 4 star.

Don't forget, the pool of 2 and 3 star players is a lot bigger than the pool of 4 and 5 star players.

[Duck07]

Willie Williams FTW!