Update on Hakeem Flowers

[Tray Dub]

No, I'm serious actually...we don't need to settle for Tuinei types anymore...plus after watching Flowers film, he's definitely faster than LT...nothing against LT, he just shys away from the football on key 3rd downs it seems...he does do a solid job blocking much like what I saw from Flowers on his film!

Tuinei has been a very solid player for us. If most recruits panned out like him we would be in good shape. I would gladly take Tuinei right now. Not every guy is going to be a star, and LT has done well with what has been asked of him. There's a reason he's a starter on a national championship team.

[ljginger]

LT has been alright...the only reason he is a starter is we were thin with quality receivers this year...not saying he's horrible we can just do better... LT has been serviceable and made one great catch at UT, I'll give him that! Like TK said, he has dropped a number of passes...I am looking forward to more playmakers in the receiver core with sumler, vaughn, and blackmon!

[Boom]

LT has been alright...the only reason he is a starter is we were thin with quality receivers this year...not saying he's horrible we can just do better... LT has been serviceable and made one great catch at UT, I'll give him that! Like TK said, he has dropped a number of passes...I am looking forward to more playmakers in the receiver core with sumler, vaughn, and blackmon!

and so has Huff...

[ljginger]

Ye but Huff isn't a true receiver, he's been converted from rb/qb and is a huge playmaker...he can afford to drop one once in awhile...he's only gonna get better, which is scary for defenses!

[Duck07]

I think all this talk about LT is frankly absurd. If we were a spread passing team I'd take it a little more seriously. We are a running team right now. LT excels as a blocker and I'd much rather take LT over JWill. LT drops less and blocks 100x better. (I know some of you think JWill was an amazing blocker, for like the last half of his sr year)

[Phenom]

No offense ginger, but you post a lot of stupid s***.

[ljginger]

Since this thread is about Hakeem Flowers, I would rather have Flowers than LT, there I'm done!

[ljginger]

How so Phenom? I'm curious what u think is s***? I'm critical where I feel it's necessary, how is that s***?

[Phenom]

How so Phenom? I'm curious what u think is s***? I'm critical where I feel it's necessary, how is that s***?

I know dude. I just think your expectations are unrealistic at this point. You freak out about little things. I'm not gonna call you a bandwagon fan because I don't know you, but you are most definitely a spazzo.

[ljginger]

Ok, maybe I'm a little harsh on LT...I just think how much better the offense could be if it had more playmakers like Huff...it will next year...I'm anything but a bandwagon fan...I've been a Duck fan for along time and I'm known as a college football guru in my area...I just can't wait for next year! Sorry u were offended but I'm not sure what I freaked out about. This has always been my favorite Duck forum and part of the reason why is because people don't talk s***, now I'm accused of talking s***...there are soo many times I could have said the same thing about many of u but it's not necessary and I wouldn't...also I don't say inappropriate stuff like some...anyways go ducks!

[Duck07]

Ok, maybe I'm a little harsh on LT...I just think how much better the offense could be if it had more playmakers like Huff...it will next year...I'm anything but a bandwagon fan...I've been a Duck fan for along time and I'm known as a college football guru in my area...I just can't wait for next year! Sorry u were offended but I'm not sure what I freaked out about. This has always been my favorite Duck forum and part of the reason why is because people don't talk s***, now I'm accused of talking s***...there are soo many times I could have said the same thing about many of u but it's not necessary and I wouldn't...also I don't say inappropriate stuff like some...anyways go ducks!

Man, what if we had Justin Blackmon and Alshon Jeffery? Heck, why don't we go get Calvin Johnson from Detroit? Your previous point about preferring HF to LT doesn't hold because HF is still in hs - its apples to oranges.

I think what it came down to is that ragging on LT sounds pretty lame when he really hasn't done anything wrong. Has he dropped some passes? Sure, DT has also fumbled quite a few changes - it doesn't mean he's bad. Ripping on him when we have the #1 offense and lead the nation in scoring just comes off as stupid.

[ljginger]

Hakeem didn't remind me of LT other than the blocking which I do appreciate from LT...Once again, I do not hate LT...I'm just a little critical and I have a right to be as a fan just like I have been with Allioti for many years...Just because my opinion is different doesn't mean it's stupid...Most of my friends agree with me that LT is an average receiver but a good blocker which I realize is important for the spread...There were several times though on 3rd down situations where it looked like LT didn't even want to catch the football...in the USC game in particular...maybe DT didn't get the play across to him in those instances, but I'm just mentioning what I saw...Hakeem looks to be a faster version of LT...I'll take that!

[Boom]

Ye but Huff isn't a true receiver, he's been converted from rb/qb and is a huge playmaker...he can afford to drop one once in awhile...he's only gonna get better, which is scary for defenses!

I agree, but I don't think LT has dropped half as many as Huff has.

I personally don't think dropped passes was that big of an issue this year..... especially when you have a QB who's constantly over/under throwing balls.

[soduck]

LT has made a lot of great blocks this year that helped to get TDs. We have had worse and better WR but he helped a lot this year. We have many great play makers coming in next year,. but can they all block better than LT? HE will still have a lot of play time next year. He won't often be our first option, but he will be one our better blockers at WR next year.

[ljginger]

Boom and soducks both bring up great points...catching balls wasn't a big issue this year. Also, soducks is right! the receivers we are bringing in next year are more the playmaking type and probably won't be as good as blockers...Honestly, I think we are really gonna miss DJ Davis! He's been huge as a blocker the past two years...I wish we would use him more on those screen plays because he's soo strong and usually gets a first down...I'm glad we'll have LT for depth next year I just hope we use him more vertical like in the USC game when he broke open, instead of the screen where he just doesn't have the speed to really excel on that play.