OREGON VERSE CAL (BY THE NUMBERS)

[cmmadness]

Forgive the nerd factor for the following , but with too much time on my hands lately, I wanted the check the numbers. I thought the outcome would be more balanced. Turns out the perception is in line with reality. Setting aside the fact that some of these guys never enrolled, qualified, and/or transferred; the head to head recruiting battles in the Chip Kelly era are as follows:

2008
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Oregon: Chris Harper, Dion Jordon, Dewitt Stuckey, Justin Thompson.
Cal: Trevor Guytin, Marvin Jones, Mychal Kendricks, Anthony Miller, Charles Satchell, Beau Sweeney.

2009
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Oregon: Kerrington Armstrong, Michael Clay, Bryson Littlejohn, Boseko Lokombo, Avery Patterson.
Cal: Deandre Coleman, Alex Logan, Vachel Samules, Brian Schwenke, Charles Siddoway, Desarte Yarnway.

2010
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Oregon: Ricky Heimuli, Nick Rowland, Lache Seastrunk, Dontae Williams
Cal: Keenan Allen, Tevin Carter, Gabe King, Chris Martin Chris McCain.

2011
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Oregon: Rahim Cassell, Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, Andre Yuretagoyena
Cal: Todd, Barr, Brendan Bigelow, Jason Gibson, Jordan Rigsbee, Richard Rodgers, Avery Walls.

I don't follow Cal much unless they're playing Oregon---and of course the jury is still out on most of these players. Either way, I would be curious to hear what you guys think about the bottom line. Would you trade the 23 recuits they have for the 16 we have?????

[karlhungis]

Thanks for the post. In the sake of the nerd factor you may want to edit your title to say versus instead of verse though.

[Duck07]

Well, if you are going to be a nerd, you might as well go all in Skolnic. Take Siddoway for example, the coaches rated him and didn't like him. Thus, you can't really call it a battle we lost because we never really wanted him to begin with. So, how many of any of the guys listed were down to Oregon/Cal? Lache certainly wasn't. I know with USC in the past, we came down to the final two over guys like Rey Maualauga, Jordan Campbell, Allan Bradford and a few others that slip my mind.

[cmmadness]

All I was doing was opening this up for conversation. (I have no idea what Skulnik is) The players above were simply the players that were offered by both teams and chose one of the two. I never said they were down to Oregon and Cal. It's just an opportunity to compare and contrast.

[MacDuck]

Forgive the nerd factor for the following , but with too much time on my hands lately, I wanted the check the numbers. I thought the outcome would be more balanced. Turns out the perception is in line with reality. Setting aside the fact that some of these guys never enrolled, qualified, and/or transferred; the head to head recruiting battles in the Chip Kelly era are as follows:

2008
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Oregon: Chris Harper, Dion Jordon, Dewitt Stuckey, Justin Thompson.
Cal: Trevor Guytin, Marvin Jones, Mychal Kendricks, Anthony Miller, Charles Satchell, Beau Sweeney.

Dion Jordan & Stuckey for Oregon vs Jones & Kendricks for Cal = edge to Cal based on how much the Cal players play & contribute

2009
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Oregon: Kerrington Armstrong, Michael Clay, Bryson Littlejohn, Boseko Lokombo, Avery Patterson.
Cal: Deandre Coleman, Alex Logan, Vachel Samules, Brian Schwenke, Charles Siddoway, Desarte Yarnway.

Pretty big edge to Oregon w/Clay, Littlejohn, Bolo & Patterson as contributors vs Coleman, Logan & Samuels

2010
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Oregon: Ricky Heimuli, Nick Rowland, Lache Seastrunk, Dontae Williams
Cal: Keenan Allen, Tevin Carter, Gabe King, Chris Martin Chris McCain.

Slight edge to Cal since Allen was very good his FR season and all our guys RSed. Take this same list at this time next year and I bet we're ahead given what Rowland, Sea, and DW look like. McCain is still iffy. Martin is not at Cal. King will probably be good. Don't know about Carter

2011
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Oregon: Rahim Cassell, Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, Andre Yuretagoyena
Cal: Todd, Barr, Brendan Bigelow, Jason Gibson, Jordan Rigsbee, Richard Rodgers, Avery Walls.

No doubt that the 3 we have will be good, but Cal has strong edge, primarily in quantity and guys who should be studs like Gibson, Barr & Rigsbee. We need to close w/Lee, Blackmon & Lyerla as they all have offers from Cal to even it up or go ahead

I don't follow Cal much unless they're playing Oregon---and of course the jury is still out on most of these players. Either way, I would be curious to hear what you guys think about the bottom line. Would you trade the 23 recuits they have for the 16 we have?????

[RebelDuck]

Bigelow is the only player on Cal's list you mentioned that I didn't want (Don't trust the knees). I would be pleased to have any of the other players you mentioned.

[Duck07]

All I was doing was opening this up for conversation. (I have no idea what Skulnik is) The players above were simply the players that were offered by both teams and chose one of the two. I never said they were down to Oregon and Cal. It's just an opportunity to compare and contrast.

Skolnick is in the middle, from Revenge of the Nerds, hopefully this lets you see I was only being half-serious

[duckydoug]

i'd take Cal's obviously but the jury is still out on most of the players including those from this class

[ChipKellyKapowski]

Forgive the nerd factor for the following

This is pretty silly as these lists are clearly not fully representative of the Cal vs Oregon recruiting battle over the past 4-5 cycles. There's a ton of more guys to consider, and we have no way of actually knowing how these players ranked in the programs' respective war rooms.