Blackmon down to 3

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I think it's safe to say that Devon likes to play some mind games with his Twitter account. Think about it. He says he's announcing on 1/5 at the UA game according to an interview done yesterday. He has only tripped 1 school and that's Oregon. Combine that with lots of other times, whether on Twitter or straight up interviews, where he has said the Ducks are his leader. If this kid chooses someone else like Cal, UCLA or USC on 1/5 then he's breaking the mold big time by announcing for a school w/o an official trip. It wouldn't be the first time this has happened, but it would be a shocker. Bottomline is the only way I see him going somewhere else is if he delays his choice.
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MacDuck wrote:I think it's safe to say that Devon likes to play some mind games with his Twitter account. Think about it. He says he's announcing on 1/5 at the UA game according to an interview done yesterday. He has only tripped 1 school and that's Oregon. Combine that with lots of other times, whether on Twitter or straight up interviews, where he has said the Ducks are his leader. If this kid chooses someone else like Cal, UCLA or USC on 1/5 then he's breaking the mold big time by announcing for a school w/o an official trip. It wouldn't be the first time this has happened, but it would be a shocker. Bottomline is the only way I see him going somewhere else is if he delays his choice.
He's been to USC and UCLA on unofficials and camps since he lives so close to their campuses.
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Another thing I noticed on DT is they have My man Mariota rated a four star and higher than Randall.
Also some interesting descepencies on other recruits in rankings compared to Scout and Rivals .




http://oregon.247sports.com/Recruit/Ind ... ll/Commits
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greenyellow wrote:
MacDuck wrote:I think it's safe to say that Devon likes to play some mind games with his Twitter account. Think about it. He says he's announcing on 1/5 at the UA game according to an interview done yesterday. He has only tripped 1 school and that's Oregon. Combine that with lots of other times, whether on Twitter or straight up interviews, where he has said the Ducks are his leader. If this kid chooses someone else like Cal, UCLA or USC on 1/5 then he's breaking the mold big time by announcing for a school w/o an official trip. It wouldn't be the first time this has happened, but it would be a shocker. Bottomline is the only way I see him going somewhere else is if he delays his choice.
He's been to USC and UCLA on unofficials and camps since he lives so close to their campuses.
for sure. but he's had pics of himself in oregon gear on twitter for ages. sure, he could go somewhere else, anywhere he wants. never know... but sounds good for chip and co.
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Wow they really like Scarlett: http://247sports.com/Recruit/Brennan-Scarlett-1534

Its too bad he never seriously considered us. I hate losing out on talent in our backyard
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FerrariDuck wrote:Wow they really like Scarlett: http://247sports.com/Recruit/Brennan-Scarlett-1534

Its too bad he never seriously considered us. I hate losing out on talent in our backyard

wtf does that have anything to do with this thread?
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Bigducker wrote:Another thing I noticed on DT is they have My man Mariota rated a four star and higher than Randall.
Also some interesting descepencies on other recruits in rankings compared to Scout and Rivals .




http://oregon.247sports.com/Recruit/Ind ... ll/Commits
I don't trust 247's rankings at all. They strike me as a group of fans that are involved in recruiting and I doubt they put much if any effort into their actual recruiting evaluations. I like their recruiting info, since they do seem to get a lot of good info but they haven't shown anything that leads me to believe their evaluations of recruits.
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karlhungis wrote:
Bigducker wrote:Another thing I noticed on DT is they have My man Mariota rated a four star and higher than Randall.
Also some interesting descepencies on other recruits in rankings compared to Scout and Rivals .




http://oregon.247sports.com/Recruit/Ind ... ll/Commits
I don't trust 247's rankings at all. They strike me as a group of fans that are involved in recruiting and I doubt they put much if any effort into their actual recruiting evaluations. I like their recruiting info, since they do seem to get a lot of good info but they haven't shown anything that leads me to believe their evaluations of recruits.
Agree. Having watched multiple videos of each player (I don't claim to be an amateur scout), it's pretty obvious that Randall is a more talented kid and has a higher ceiling (which is the purpose of the star rating - determining a player's potential).

I think some posters are suddenly siding with Mariota because it looks like Randall may not qualify. Randall's level of competition is quite a bit stronger than Mariota's (even though Randall isn't playing against the best teams in Florida). This is likely part of the reason why Mariota's numbers are quite a bit more impressive than Randall's.
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Totally disagree ...None of us will really know for a few years about how good these recruits will be and who's ratings were better.
Every since I saw the video's of Mariota and Randall I saw much more in Mariota. Sure Randall has a great arm and is fast but there's alot more aspects to being a great QB besides that. I just really like everything I saw and read on Mariota from the get go and IMO will be the much better QB. But we shall see.
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Bigducker wrote:Totally disagree ...None of us will really know for a few years about how good these recruits will be and who's ratings were better.
Every since I saw the video's of Mariota and Randall I saw much more in Mariota. Sure Randall has a great arm and is fast but there's alot more aspects to being a great QB besides that. I just really like everything I saw and read on Mariota from the get go and IMO will be the much better QB. But we shall see.
Even if Randall was playing against better competition, it still doesn't explain why his stats are still well below Mariota. A good QB will produce no matter the competition level and Randall didn't do that this year. Plus, his suspension from his team in the playoffs raises some questions about him.
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greenyellow wrote:
Bigducker wrote:Totally disagree ...None of us will really know for a few years about how good these recruits will be and who's ratings were better.
Every since I saw the video's of Mariota and Randall I saw much more in Mariota. Sure Randall has a great arm and is fast but there's alot more aspects to being a great QB besides that. I just really like everything I saw and read on Mariota from the get go and IMO will be the much better QB. But we shall see.
Even if Randall was playing against better competition, it still doesn't explain why his stats are still well below Mariota. A good QB will produce no matter the competition level and Randall didn't do that this year. Plus, his suspension from his team in the playoffs raises some questions about him.
Randall was playing in one of the lowest divisions in Florida. So the comp was pretty equal.
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Bigducker wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
Bigducker wrote:Totally disagree ...None of us will really know for a few years about how good these recruits will be and who's ratings were better.
Every since I saw the video's of Mariota and Randall I saw much more in Mariota. Sure Randall has a great arm and is fast but there's alot more aspects to being a great QB besides that. I just really like everything I saw and read on Mariota from the get go and IMO will be the much better QB. But we shall see.
Even if Randall was playing against better competition, it still doesn't explain why his stats are still well below Mariota. A good QB will produce no matter the competition level and Randall didn't do that this year. Plus, his suspension from his team in the playoffs raises some questions about him.
Randall was playing in one of the lowest divisions in Florida. So the comp was pretty equal.
Not even close to equal. The Hawaiian big boy league puts scores of players into the colleges and several are nationally ranked. A Florida 2A league (mostly private religious academies with a couple of ringers) would need a huge supply of body bags playing against the college size lines of the Hawaiian schools.
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GrandpaDuck wrote:
Bigducker wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
Bigducker wrote:Totally disagree ...None of us will really know for a few years about how good these recruits will be and who's ratings were better.
Every since I saw the video's of Mariota and Randall I saw much more in Mariota. Sure Randall has a great arm and is fast but there's alot more aspects to being a great QB besides that. I just really like everything I saw and read on Mariota from the get go and IMO will be the much better QB. But we shall see.
Even if Randall was playing against better competition, it still doesn't explain why his stats are still well below Mariota. A good QB will produce no matter the competition level and Randall didn't do that this year. Plus, his suspension from his team in the playoffs raises some questions about him.
Randall was playing in one of the lowest divisions in Florida. So the comp was pretty equal.
Not even close to equal. The Hawaiian big boy league puts scores of players into the colleges and several are nationally ranked. A Florida 2A league (mostly private religious academies with a couple of ringers) would need a huge supply of body bags playing against the college size lines of the Hawaiian schools.
That's what I've gotten from reading different sources. The level at which Mariota plays in Hawaii produces a lot of D1-level athletes while the level Randall plays at isn't exactly known for that. I would say Randall has much better physical skills than Mariota at this point with Mariota excelling at the mental and game management aspects. I would expect their weaknesses to eventually put them on even playing fields once they are in a college program like Oregon.
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GrandpaDuck wrote:
Bigducker wrote:
greenyellow wrote:
Bigducker wrote:Totally disagree ...None of us will really know for a few years about how good these recruits will be and who's ratings were better.
Every since I saw the video's of Mariota and Randall I saw much more in Mariota. Sure Randall has a great arm and is fast but there's alot more aspects to being a great QB besides that. I just really like everything I saw and read on Mariota from the get go and IMO will be the much better QB. But we shall see.
Even if Randall was playing against better competition, it still doesn't explain why his stats are still well below Mariota. A good QB will produce no matter the competition level and Randall didn't do that this year. Plus, his suspension from his team in the playoffs raises some questions about him.
Randall was playing in one of the lowest divisions in Florida. So the comp was pretty equal.
Not even close to equal. The Hawaiian big boy league puts scores of players into the colleges and several are nationally ranked. A Florida 2A league (mostly private religious academies with a couple of ringers) would need a huge supply of body bags playing against the college size lines of the Hawaiian schools.
Even better Grandpa. What I meant is that Mariota was not playing in an inferior league. Most people think of florida, Texas and Cal and automatically think better competition.
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Just FYI the guy who started 247 was one of the top 3 guys at Rivals until he sold his share about a year ago, so he knows what he is doing. He's not just some fan who had a ton money and opened a site.

What else is funny is how much some here want to discredit DT because the 2 guys started here, yet give so much credit Tony D. I remember him as baciami and he had no contacts, and just pissed people off all the time on educk and was pretty much ran off that board. At one time he was maybe the worse poster on educk, and that's saying something. Face it every duck board mod is just a fan trying to bring info to us, they all have real jobs and maybe make an extra grand or two a month doing something that started as a hobby.

Mariota is a better QB right now than Randall just watch their film. Randall has all the tools to be great but his mechanics and accuracy need a lot of work. If Marcus had started as a JR he would be 4* on all the sites.
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Bigducker wrote:Another thing I noticed on DT is they have My man Mariota rated a four star and higher than Randall.
Also some interesting descepencies on other recruits in rankings compared to Scout and Rivals .




http://oregon.247sports.com/Recruit/Ind ... ll/Commits
I don't trust 247's rankings at all. They strike me as a group of fans that are involved in recruiting and I doubt they put much if any effort into their actual recruiting evaluations. I like their recruiting info, since they do seem to get a lot of good info but they haven't shown anything that leads me to believe their evaluations of recruits.
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