uofo627 wrote:Again with the small linemen... I'm sure he is a good prospect, but size up front is one of our biggest weaknesses. I like his talent but we need to start recruiting big ugly's.
6-3 265 is small? huh? that's perfect size for a HS kid. redshirt him and he's up to 285 in probably a year and a half.
sheesh. come on folks, we've known for 2 years now that Azz likes the D lineman around that size and believe it or not, not many colleges have an extra supple of 300+ D lineman. Fairley from Auburn is 295. Stop thinking that 300lbs is a some sort of sweet spot for D lineman, because it isn't and never will be.
I'm not sure where people got the idea that every DL out of HS has to be 300lbs. The only one in recent memory that Oregon has gotten at that size is Heimuli (to me Fili and Wade don't count since they never made it in).
300 lb DT's....That's the persona of the big bad SEC.
uofo627 wrote:Again with the small linemen... I'm sure he is a good prospect, but size up front is one of our biggest weaknesses. I like his talent but we need to start recruiting big ugly's.
6-3 265 is small? huh? that's perfect size for a HS kid. redshirt him and he's up to 285 in probably a year and a half.
sheesh. come on folks, we've known for 2 years now that Azz likes the D lineman around that size and believe it or not, not many colleges have an extra supple of 300+ D lineman. Fairley from Auburn is 295. Stop thinking that 300lbs is a some sort of sweet spot for D lineman, because it isn't and never will be.
I'm not sure where people got the idea that every DL out of HS has to be 300lbs. The only one in recent memory that Oregon has gotten at that size is Heimuli (to me Fili and Wade don't count since they never made it in).
300 lb DT's....That's the persona of the big bad SEC.
Actually one of the reasons why SEC defenses are usually pretty good is because their D-linemen are big and athletic.
uofo627 wrote:Again with the small linemen... I'm sure he is a good prospect, but size up front is one of our biggest weaknesses. I like his talent but we need to start recruiting big ugly's.
6-3 265 is small? huh? that's perfect size for a HS kid. redshirt him and he's up to 285 in probably a year and a half.
sheesh. come on folks, we've known for 2 years now that Azz likes the D lineman around that size and believe it or not, not many colleges have an extra supple of 300+ D lineman. Fairley from Auburn is 295. Stop thinking that 300lbs is a some sort of sweet spot for D lineman, because it isn't and never will be.
I'm not sure where people got the idea that every DL out of HS has to be 300lbs. The only one in recent memory that Oregon has gotten at that size is Heimuli (to me Fili and Wade don't count since they never made it in).
300 lb DT's....That's the persona of the big bad SEC.
Actually one of the reasons why SEC defenses are usually pretty good is because their D-linemen are big and athletic.
Or the fact that they don't face crap for offense. Look what Auburn did to the big bad SEC Ds this year.
You're right, that is a good size for high school, but our D-linemen hardly ever become bigger. I may be the only one thinking this, but some size up front would really help our pass rush. You cannot deny that Ohio State dominated the line of scrimmage. I'm not asking for 350 pounders, but maybe something bigger than our average 255 lb.
uofo627 wrote:You're right, that is a good size for high school, but our D-linemen hardly ever become bigger. I may be the only one thinking this, but some size up front would really help our pass rush. You cannot deny that Ohio State dominated the line of scrimmage. I'm not asking for 350 pounders, but maybe something bigger than our average 255 lb.
Um yes I can. They ran the ball 51 times for 153 yards & no TDs. And most of those yards came from Pryor scrambling, not them "dominating the line of scrimmage". Kenny Rowe also tied the Rose Bowl record for sacks, with 3. We had 4 sacks overall & 10 TFL. Both were 2nd most in a game all season.
Scout shows we made 4 offers to high school DT's over 300 pounds this year.
The only 2 DT's Azz has signed are Heimuli (plus 300) and Ebert listed at 285.
The myth that Oregon is only going after lighter DTs is unfounded. If we don't manage to sign anyone other than Ebert this year, we will probably have to play a couple of DEs like Hart and maybe even Turner at DT out of necessity not a formula that calls for DE sized tackles.
Some list Hart as a DT but in the actual games he was playing DE most of the time. If Heimuli goes on a mission it will be interesting to see how the coaches adapt.
uofo627 wrote:You're right, that is a good size for high school, but our D-linemen hardly ever become bigger. I may be the only one thinking this, but some size up front would really help our pass rush. You cannot deny that Ohio State dominated the line of scrimmage. I'm not asking for 350 pounders, but maybe something bigger than our average 255 lb.
Um yes I can. They ran the ball 51 times for 153 yards & no TDs. And most of those yards came from Pryor scrambling, not them "dominating the line of scrimmage". Kenny Rowe also tied the Rose Bowl record for sacks, with 3. We had 4 sacks overall & 10 TFL. Both were 2nd most in a game all season.
Yes, the OSU RBs had a poor game. The OSU DL had a great game though. So, you can use Kenny's 3 sacks and the TFL, they still moved the ball on 3rd down and our offense was effected by their DL. All of that = OSU winning the LOS battle, on both sides.
uofo627 wrote:You're right, that is a good size for high school, but our D-linemen hardly ever become bigger. I may be the only one thinking this, but some size up front would really help our pass rush. You cannot deny that Ohio State dominated the line of scrimmage. I'm not asking for 350 pounders, but maybe something bigger than our average 255 lb.
Um yes I can. They ran the ball 51 times for 153 yards & no TDs. And most of those yards came from Pryor scrambling, not them "dominating the line of scrimmage". Kenny Rowe also tied the Rose Bowl record for sacks, with 3. We had 4 sacks overall & 10 TFL. Both were 2nd most in a game all season.
Yes, the OSU RBs had a poor game. The OSU DL had a great game though. So, you can use Kenny's 3 sacks and the TFL, they still moved the ball on 3rd down and our offense was effected by their DL. All of that = OSU winning the LOS battle, on both sides.
uofo627 was talking about our Dline vs their Oline. Thats what I was addressing. And they weren't dominated, not even close. Every team moves the ball on us on 3rd downs & its not because our DTs are too small, thats a MUCH bigger issue (Alliotti).
uofo627 wrote:You're right, that is a good size for high school, but our D-linemen hardly ever become bigger. I may be the only one thinking this, but some size up front would really help our pass rush. You cannot deny that Ohio State dominated the line of scrimmage. I'm not asking for 350 pounders, but maybe something bigger than our average 255 lb.
Um yes I can. They ran the ball 51 times for 153 yards & no TDs. And most of those yards came from Pryor scrambling, not them "dominating the line of scrimmage". Kenny Rowe also tied the Rose Bowl record for sacks, with 3. We had 4 sacks overall & 10 TFL. Both were 2nd most in a game all season.
Thank you DT. I am so tired of hearing that Ohio State dominated our defensive line, when that is not what happened. On the other hand, their d line did have their way with our O line, so that makes the case for larger d lineman anyway. I am sure everyone would want large, athletic lineman on both sides of the ball.
