Chip better hit the recruit trail hard in the next month
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Re: Chip better hit the recruit trail hard in the next month
Just looked Rowland as of last year was 6-4.5 and 295 and I forgot all about Clanton who is 6-5 305, our line could be quite a bit bigger than this years line. On dline we could start 3 guys over 6-5 and another 6-4 with the tallest being 6-7 in Jordan. That's bigger than our bball team.
If Remington plays DE we will have DE that are 6'5 265, 6'3 260, 6'7 240 and 6'3 240.
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Re: Chip better hit the recruit trail hard in the next month
DT made some poor decisions in the zone reads and then on that option play where he had the first down and pitched it to LMJ for a loss. DT looked tentative in the running game and seemed like he didn't want to get hurt.EncinitasDuck wrote:We tried "wide" numerous times. Either a huge DL or LB was in the backfield to meet the mesch or they were just as fast to the outside fas we were. Let's face it they were big and fast. We're just fast.AugustDuck wrote:One thing I haven't quite figured out, is why we haven't tried to run wide more often, when our O Line is getting blown up like Auburn, Cal, and ASU did.duckfan96 wrote:We got wrs....we got rbs. We have undersized D linemen, enough of that already. Get some big Dlineman. As far as Oregons Oline being overmatched against Fairley...most SEC teams were as well. Of course when you run directly into him time and time again.

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Re: Chip better hit the recruit trail hard in the next month
2 years in a row our OL gets outplayed and everyone clamors for more DL, haha.

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Re: Chip better hit the recruit trail hard in the next month
There's some big cats we already have for our OL.
Mark Asper 6'7 322
Everett Benyard: 6'7 315
Darrion Weems 6'5 292
Nick Cody 6'5 296
Nick Rowland 6'4 314
Jamaal Burrell 6'4 306
But then again, measurables aren't everything, plus having 5 giant slow guys on our OL definitely doesn't play into our system.
Mark Asper 6'7 322
Everett Benyard: 6'7 315
Darrion Weems 6'5 292
Nick Cody 6'5 296
Nick Rowland 6'4 314
Jamaal Burrell 6'4 306
But then again, measurables aren't everything, plus having 5 giant slow guys on our OL definitely doesn't play into our system.
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Re: Chip better hit the recruit trail hard in the next month
That's the fine line that the coaches are having to deal with. It's hard to find OL that have equal amounts of size, strength, and speed to fit into the speed of the offense and still be able to push people around down near the goal line.TriDuck wrote:There's some big cats we already have for our OL.
Mark Asper 6'7 322
Everett Benyard: 6'7 315
Darrion Weems 6'5 292
Nick Cody 6'5 296
Nick Rowland 6'4 314
Jamaal Burrell 6'4 306
But then again, measurables aren't everything, plus having 5 giant slow guys on our OL definitely doesn't play into our system.

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Re: Chip better hit the recruit trail hard in the next month
I think I did that and I don't know if its coaching/scheme/linemen size but both lines need more....more what I don't know but Dline is easy to see we need big athletic freaks and luckily they are everywhere!Duck07 wrote:2 years in a row our OL gets outplayed and everyone clamors for more DL, haha.
Our Oline recruiting is great but we emphasize speed/endurance over size and I don't think we can get much bigger because our guys need to be able to run but our Dline is the fault of Coach Gray we need better recruits because how much better are we if Bair is our stud SDE with two run stuffing 330 pounders inside?
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Re: Chip better hit the recruit trail hard in the next month
to those asking for bigger RB's, Dontae Williams redshirted this year. He looked pretty strong in his film
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Re: Chip better hit the recruit trail hard in the next month
Yeah, our O-line has sucked...big time.Duck07 wrote:2 years in a row our OL gets outplayed and everyone clamors for more DL, haha.

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While I would like huge, fast guys, I'm not nearly as down on our lines as everyone else. I mean, they only got us to the NC game!
Regardless of how they did last night, I would still take them over 98% of the rest of the lines in college football.
Regardless of how they did last night, I would still take them over 98% of the rest of the lines in college football.
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Re: Chip better hit the recruit trail hard in the next month
We had two undersized D-Line play last night and two that averaged over 300 pounds. While its true the big guys are youngsters, the smaller Clark was by far the most effective at nose tackle.
Also, Oregon offered at least 4 DTs over 300 pounds (don't tell Hines he'll slit his wrists) as well as several who look like they could get there. It appears by action (not coach speak quotes) that Azz and Oregon want the most effective player on the line regardless of their weight and will gladly take a big guy if he is a player not just a tub.
Now I think we need to recruit D-Line not because the ones we had didn't play well, but because of how few we have on scholarship.
As to the O-Line, I am hoping one or maybe even two of these excellent O-Line prospects already signed this year are ready to play studs by their red-shirt freshman year. Two years from now I think we'll be in position to make another serious run at the BCS title. (Yeah, shoot me but, I think next year we drop a game or more while we rebuild the O-Line.)
Also, Oregon offered at least 4 DTs over 300 pounds (don't tell Hines he'll slit his wrists) as well as several who look like they could get there. It appears by action (not coach speak quotes) that Azz and Oregon want the most effective player on the line regardless of their weight and will gladly take a big guy if he is a player not just a tub.
Now I think we need to recruit D-Line not because the ones we had didn't play well, but because of how few we have on scholarship.
As to the O-Line, I am hoping one or maybe even two of these excellent O-Line prospects already signed this year are ready to play studs by their red-shirt freshman year. Two years from now I think we'll be in position to make another serious run at the BCS title. (Yeah, shoot me but, I think next year we drop a game or more while we rebuild the O-Line.)
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Re: Chip better hit the recruit trail hard in the next month
Duck07 wrote:2 years in a row our OL gets outplayed and everyone clamors for more DL, haha.

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You see those threads because they see how effective a big DLine has been for 2 years against our offense. You also have to have a DL capable of occupying the OL so that the LB's can be playmakers. Our defense did play great all year and I think they played overall very well last night. Beforehand I think that any of us would've said we win if we hold Auburn to 22 points.dthomas=ddixon wrote:Duck07 wrote:2 years in a row our OL gets outplayed and everyone clamors for more DL, haha.Seriously. I'm honestly wondering whats wrong with some Duck fans. Its not just this site either. Everywhere I go I see "We need big DTs!!" threads. Our defense played above & beyond what they were expected to, both in the RB & this game. Its our OLine thats getting pushed all over the field. If the line can give Lamike even any push to avoid that safety & a foot for Barner when we got stuffed on the goal line, we're all celebrating a national title & worshiping our D for stopping Cam.
Off-topic of Recruiting - I do think the OL played as poorly as they've played in a long time. Some of it had to do with AU, but I think most was just unexplainable, maybe nerves. I think our OL is very capable of playing better against that defense. I don't think the play-calling helped the case. The wide throws and downfield throws were effective yet we kept trying to run/screen the middle of the field. If we had kept attacking the perimeter with throws and throw downfield then they would've had to move their LB's back a little or even move to a Nickel thus taking some pressure off of the OL.
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Spot on!!!dthomas=ddixon wrote:Duck07 wrote:2 years in a row our OL gets outplayed and everyone clamors for more DL, haha.Seriously. I'm honestly wondering whats wrong with some Duck fans. Its not just this site either. Everywhere I go I see "We need big DTs!!" threads. Our defense played above & beyond what they were expected to, both in the RB & this game. Its our OLine thats getting pushed all over the field. If the line can give Lamike even any push to avoid that safety & a foot for Barner when we got stuffed on the goal line, we're all celebrating a national title & worshiping our D for stopping Cam.
We have lost our last 2 BCS games not because of our DLs, but due to our offense way under performing compared to what they typically did during the season. Our OLs players are not holding up well at vs the front line guys on teams like BSU, tOSU, and now AU. To be considered a truly elite team we need to win a big game against a top notch opponent. Our O isn't getting it done.
Sure I concur we need more big guys on the DL, esp tackles. But I contend even more that either Kelly and the other O coaches need to tweak some things with our offense so it can better handle the studs they face in BCS games or go out and find OLs that are bigger & faster. Not easy to find, but doable.
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Also got Tra Carson coming in who's a monster. He'll no doubt redshirt, but in 2012 he could compete for the starting spot.vragumili wrote:to those asking for bigger RB's, Dontae Williams redshirted this year. He looked pretty strong in his film
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Re: Chip better hit the recruit trail hard in the next month
greenyellow wrote:The only thing that's really going to keep us alive on this board for next month will be recruiting as basketball doesn't look promising.
Can't wait for baseball, though!