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GrandpaDuck wrote:There is a camp to promote Hawaiian athletes to colleges, the 4.3 hand timings are from there. He did have 4.7 Sparq electronic timings at a Scout combine, and his Sparq times for that day and surface were comparable to the faster receivers and RBs at the combine. He is probably right there with Hawkins speed-wise maybe even a step faster.
Saw that too. The kid is VERY fast for his size. I think he's one of the most underrated kids out there and will be great under Chip's guidance.

Really think this kid's got it all and from what I remember is a straight A student on top of his Athletic ability.
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buckmarkduck wrote:At the big Hawaii camp last year he ran in the 4.3s that's a couple steps faster than Hawkins who ran a 4.7. And that was in front of scout. Com and rivals guys. Fetters couldn't stop drooling over him. Oh that was the fastest time there also.
Link or evidence? I have a very hard time believing that Mariota is faster than LMJ, Lache Seastrunk, or Dennis Dixon.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Mariota is going to be one of the great Oregon QBs we talk about for years. I hope that we also talk about DT and Brian Bennett in the same fashion, but I'd much rather have Mariota than Randall (if we had to choose), I'm very happy with both though.

NC - here ya go: http://www.staradvertiser.com/sports/20 ... inest.html

"Mariota, at 6-4 (6-3 and 5/8ths, to be exact) and 190 pounds, isn't just the tallest of quarterbacks from a program the churns out storied passers.

He may just be the best. With a bazooka of an arm — he coiled 70-yard bombs at practice as a sophomore, former receiver Billy Ray Stutzmann (UH) once said — and an intricate understanding of the pass rush, Mariota posted numbers that Crusaders fanatics and efficient program coders can love:

» 165 completions in 252 attempts (65.4 percent)

» 32 touchdown tosses with only five interceptions

» a passer rating of 189.98, easily the highest of any starting quarterback in several seasons

The final nail for many defensive coordinators, though, was dealing with Mariota's speed, especially after Arceneaux returned to his alma mater. With an emphasis on multiple looks and a keen appreciation for Oregon's version of the flex option, Arceneaux — once a shifty ballcarrier in his day — employed Mariota's stunning acceleration and speed. Mariota, who posted 40-yard sprint times from 4.5 seconds down to 4.33 at the PIAA combine in May, rushed for 455 yards on just 60 carries (8.6 per carry) with seven touchdowns."


Now I found an interesting tidbit on a forum with the PIAA coordinator and another poster:

"i believe mariota and the other saint louis players ran in the 4.3 for their 40. the rules for 40 times in high school is completely different from the ncaa/nfl. High school 40 times start when a player takes his first step. Compare that to nfl and ncaa the time starts on your first movement. That could make a difference between a 4.40 in high school to a 4.56 or slower in the ncaa/nfl if the player has a horrible get off."

and...

"Just an observation: the three stop watches had mixed times, which is good. That's why PIAA has so many of them. Mariota's times ranged from 4.32 to 4.50 in his two sprints. Wide range, but the one takeaway is that he was consistently below 4.5, as noted earlier. Even my camera tripped out trying to keep up with him compared to most of the other athletes.

If he'd been consistently below 4.4, that would've been almost too hard to believe. Give him a few more years (or months). It's possible. He's going to fill out that frame, and if he does it with mostly muscle, a consistent 4.4 (or below) going to happen.

Beyond all that, he's a definite fit for Oregon as a flex option QB."


Point? Dude's fast and we're very happy to have him as a Duck commit. :mrgreen:
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Kid has a super quick release and is already reading the entire field. I'm impressed.
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I like the look of many of Mariota's longer passes in the highlight reels... nice loft, and touch, plus they are on target, so the receivers don't need to break stride to catch the ball.
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woundedknees wrote:I like the look of many of Mariota's longer passes in the highlight reels... nice loft, and touch, plus they are on target, so the receivers don't need to break stride to catch the ball.
He's going to make a lot receivers look really good.
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woundedknees wrote:I like the look of many of Mariota's longer passes in the highlight reels... nice loft, and touch, plus they are on target, so the receivers don't need to break stride to catch the ball.
That's what I like about his video. His passes seem to always be on the money, even when he's rolling out or scrambling.
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NCDucks09 wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:At the big Hawaii camp last year he ran in the 4.3s that's a couple steps faster than Hawkins who ran a 4.7. And that was in front of scout. Com and rivals guys. Fetters couldn't stop drooling over him. Oh that was the fastest time there also.
Link or evidence? I have a very hard time believing that Mariota is faster than LMJ, Lache Seastrunk, or Dennis Dixon.
I would say that his speed is probably pretty comparable to Dixon based on tape and all the camp reports.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm0jCiLv9Ds

Compare the pass from Dixon to Paysinger at the 33 second mark... Eerily similar to Mariota's delivery in some of those highlights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFHjTugCPV8

And this 45 yarder to Jaison Williams...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8E2nZL5 ... re=related

Or maybe this 56 yarder to Derrick Jones...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUZ_wRio ... re=related
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ppilot wrote:
NCDucks09 wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:At the big Hawaii camp last year he ran in the 4.3s that's a couple steps faster than Hawkins who ran a 4.7. And that was in front of scout. Com and rivals guys. Fetters couldn't stop drooling over him. Oh that was the fastest time there also.
Link or evidence? I have a very hard time believing that Mariota is faster than LMJ, Lache Seastrunk, or Dennis Dixon.
I would say that his speed is probably pretty comparable to Dixon based on tape and all the camp reports.
Again, this is where I STRONGLY disagree. He's a great passer, with awesome touch, and throws well on the run, I'm excited he's a DUCK!

But, he is not by any means, the same caliber of speed that Dixon was. Dixon had speed faster than most Pac-10 RB's. Mariota's quick, but people put way too much stock in these 40 times reported out of HS. Randall looks three steps faster against Florida competition than Mariota does against Hawaii competition.

Remember Malachi Lewis? He was a reported a rivals 4.4 40, ended up running consistent 4.8's at Oregon, shifted to TE, and couldn't make playing time there. J-Stew was reported as a 4.3 40 out of HS, but ran a 4.48 in the NFL Combine.

You guys can drink the koolaid if you want, but MM is not a Chris Johnson, Mike Vick, or Dennis Dixon.
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woundedknees wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm0jCiLv9Ds

Compare the pass from Dixon to Paysinger at the 33 second mark... Eerily similar to Mariota's delivery in some of those highlights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFHjTugCPV8

And this 45 yarder to Jaison Williams...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8E2nZL5 ... re=related

Or maybe this 56 yarder to Derrick Jones...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUZ_wRio ... re=related
DD had a way stronger arm and much tighter spin on the spiral than MM. I think comparing MM to DD is presumptuous at this point.
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I am looking at potential, not the finished product... Who knows what that will end up becoming?

The point was in reference to the way the long ball was thrown and made connection with the receivers.

Dixon, a polished senior, who had lots of time working with Pays, JWil,l and Derrick Jones, had developed superb timing and chemistry with those guys.

Mariota shows good mechanics and potential, for a kid who will be a true freshman next season.
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Hopefully they dont move him to WR as some of the rumors state. His ball fake is already better than Thomas.
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I recall someone posting that Mariota was electronicall timed at the Nike 11 camp. My recollection was below 4.5. My memory may be faulty but this site lists the Nike camps and a time of 4.54 but doesn't connect the two. It appears he has made a large number of camps including four Nike.

Also he is a scholar athlete according to the site.


http://www.pacificathleticalliance.com/ ... RBACKS.htm

Saint Louis School 2011
Height: 6'4"; Weight: 185 lbs.
40 yard: 4.54
Hand Span: 9.5
Arm Length: 32.5
L-Drill: 7.30; T-Drill: 4.23
Broad Jump: 8' 10.5"
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ducksvb6 wrote:I recall someone posting that Mariota was electronicall timed at the Nike 11 camp. My recollection was below 4.5. My memory may be faulty but this site lists the Nike camps and a time of 4.54 but doesn't connect the two. It appears he has made a large number of camps including four Nike.

Also he is a scholar athlete according to the site.


http://www.pacificathleticalliance.com/ ... RBACKS.htm

Saint Louis School 2011
Height: 6'4"; Weight: 185 lbs.
40 yard: 4.54
Hand Span: 9.5
Arm Length: 32.5
L-Drill: 7.30; T-Drill: 4.23
Broad Jump: 8' 10.5"
COMBINE #6

Secondary Sports:
Soccer
Basketball
Camps & Combines
• Nike QB Elite 11 Regional Camp, June 2010
• University of Oregon Football Camp, June 2010
• PIAA Combine, May 2010
• Nike Football Training Camp, USC, April 2010
• Nike Football Combine Los Angeles, April 2010
• * Los Angeles All Combine Team, QB
• Scout.com 7 on 7 West Region Tournament, March 2010
• National Underclassmen Combine, Honolulu, February 2010
*Most Valuable QB Award
• Football University Camp (FBU), Honolulu, January 2010
*Top Gun Award
• Nike Football Combine Honolulu, January 2010
• USC Camp, June 09
• UCLA Camp, June 09
• University of Hawaii Camp, June 09
• PIAA Combine, May 09
• PIAA Championship Training, May 09
• HAIA Combine, April 09 (Most Valuable Quarterback)

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That's what I thought. Dixon ran almost the same exact time and actually was a little slower. Also I think NCin09 is thinking of Heisman Dixon, not Fr-Jr Dixon.
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And to the point, he isn't even a freshman yet. He is in HIGH SCHOOL still.
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