New Target being talked about on 247

[vagusnerve]

Yeah people should stop hating. I know there's bad blood between the 247 guys and this site for some reason, but get over it.

They're out hustling and if you don't like how they hustle don't go to their site.

[Duck07]

[Bigducker]

Be grateful guys, jhop and mops could very easily become like M4 and Steve and send threatening emails to AJ threatening to get this site shut down. Both of them also threatened to find the IP of whoever was posting the insider info and get them locked out of educk.

Honestly I don't see how anyone here could have a problem with what hop posted on a site that HE runs. It's not like he stated that this will happen, just that the coaches are being allowed to visit with said recruit and his family and there MAYBE a chance. I for one am thankful for the updates on what the coaches are out doing, weather anything comes from it or not.

Marty and steve should retire..Their getting too old.
They are so paranoid about anything getting out of their premium site it's become funny. They automatically delete anything said about anything regarding recruiting in open season, which they didn't do years ago.
Also I think they've gotten lazy in getting recruiting info, where as Justin and Matt are at least hustling.

[uostudent]

Be grateful guys, jhop and mops could very easily become like M4 and Steve and send threatening emails to AJ threatening to get this site shut down. Both of them also threatened to find the IP of whoever was posting the insider info and get them locked out of educk.

Honestly I don't see how anyone here could have a problem with what hop posted on a site that HE runs. It's not like he stated that this will happen, just that the coaches are being allowed to visit with said recruit and his family and there MAYBE a chance. I for one am thankful for the updates on what the coaches are out doing, weather anything comes from it or not.

Marty and steve should retire..Their getting too old.
They are so paranoid about anything getting out of their premium site it's become funny. They automatically delete anything said about anything regarding recruiting in open season, which they didn't do years ago.
Also I think they've gotten lazy in getting recruiting info, where as Justin and Matt are at least hustling.

Scout is a horrible site. They have no "inside" sources. On their premium boards, they steal info from 247 and post newspaper articles. The whole website is complete garbage.

Hines will be here in a few minutes to justify his foolish investment.....

[dd10snoop28]

I like Jhop and he seems like a nice guy who puts work into his job at 24/7. I appreciate everything you did for us here at DA,it would be nice if not every one of your posts here was an advertisement for 24/7.

[jhopduck]

Sorry for the over react post which is also not my style. LOL

I only take exception because I work my A$$ off, and as some of you mentioned, there is no chance in heck I'll ever be 100 percent right ever. I know that. What a lot of people don't understand is this is my job, so it's like me showing up at your work and tell you your're doing a crappy job etc. Hope you can appreciate that analogy.

Some of these kids change their mind like I change socks. It's their right, but makes my job tough.

Anywho, as a make up, essentially what I said is the staff got back in touch with Grimble, they are trying to gauge his interest. I made no mention of visits, de-commitments or any other rumor mill type stuff. Basically, I said just keep an eye on it, cuz you never know.

If anyone is on twitter, I give out some freebies on there so follow me and Matt if you aren't. Not all my tweets are about Oregon however. Lots of national recruiting info.

@jhopkins247

@prehmmr

[briarduck]

No worries jhop as most of us are aware recruiting is not an exact science but we all wish it was at times!

Some are still upset this site changed from breaking news too well hoping to get news...thanks for all you guys do we do appreciate it!

[RanDux]

Wow, Grimble's offer list is insane!

[UOducksTK1]

Wow, Grimble's offer list is insane!

It is. It's funny Grimble's name is being mentioned again, I remember talking to mops about recruiting last spring, and he mentioned how Grimble was in love with Oregon. So hopefully there's some legs to this story, this would be an immense pick up.

[Phalanx]

Sorry for the over react post which is also not my style. LOL

I only take exception because I work my A$$ off, and as some of you mentioned, there is no chance in heck I'll ever be 100 percent right ever. I know that. What a lot of people don't understand is this is my job, so it's like me showing up at your work and tell you your're doing a crappy job etc. Hope you can appreciate that analogy.

Some of these kids change their mind like I change socks. It's their right, but makes my job tough.

Anywho, as a make up, essentially what I said is the staff got back in touch with Grimble, they are trying to gauge his interest. I made no mention of visits, de-commitments or any other rumor mill type stuff. Basically, I said just keep an eye on it, cuz you never know.

If anyone is on twitter, I give out some freebies on there so follow me and Matt if you aren't. Not all my tweets are about Oregon however. Lots of national recruiting info.

@jhopkins247

@prehmmr

I have no problem with you at all; you seem like a nice guy, and I always liked your avatar with who I assumed was your wife and your two little boys playing football. I have two boys of my own, so I identified.

I think you are forgetting the plebian perspective on this though. Somebody associates the phrase 'game-changer' with this news, which you yourself have admitted is nothing more than the staff touching base with a recruit who is committed to another school. It is almost a certainty that this guy will not be coming to Oregon, isn't it? It seems to me, sites that charge money to release these 'gems' open themselves up for exactly the kind of criticism you received in this thread, your hard work notwithstanding. You charge people money for 'news' that isn't about possible recruits that aren't. It isn't a commentary on your character so much as a commentary on your chosen business model. You would be very popular as a poster on a free site, and you might even get enough hits on a free site to generate ad revenue, but as one who purports to have info that is worth paying for, this kind of news is underwhelming, especially for those of us who have seen the rumor mill at work for several years.

There will always be sites where people discuss Oregon football - more and more pop up all the time. Steve and Marty et al will never be able to shut them all down because they don't own the ducks or news about the ducks or duck recruits, and they can't keep letter-of-intent day from arriving the same time every year. It is the business model that needs to change, not the posters. The same kinds of issues are being contested in real estate and investment houses. The internet is a beautiful thing.

[Bigducker]

Sorry for the over react post which is also not my style. LOL

I only take exception because I work my A$$ off, and as some of you mentioned, there is no chance in heck I'll ever be 100 percent right ever. I know that. What a lot of people don't understand is this is my job, so it's like me showing up at your work and tell you your're doing a crappy job etc. Hope you can appreciate that analogy.

Some of these kids change their mind like I change socks. It's their right, but makes my job tough.

Anywho, as a make up, essentially what I said is the staff got back in touch with Grimble, they are trying to gauge his interest. I made no mention of visits, de-commitments or any other rumor mill type stuff. Basically, I said just keep an eye on it, cuz you never know.

If anyone is on twitter, I give out some freebies on there so follow me and Matt if you aren't. Not all my tweets are about Oregon however. Lots of national recruiting info.

@jhopkins247

@prehmmr

I have no problem with you at all; you seem like a nice guy, and I always liked your avatar with who I assumed was your wife and your two little boys playing football. I have two boys of my own, so I identified.

I think you are forgetting the plebian perspective on this though. Somebody associates the phrase 'game-changer' with this news, which you yourself have admitted is nothing more than the staff touching base with a recruit who is committed to another school. It is almost a certainty that this guy will not be coming to Oregon, isn't it? It seems to me, sites that charge money to release these 'gems' open themselves up for exactly the kind of criticism you received in this thread, your hard work notwithstanding. You charge people money for 'news' that isn't about possible recruits that aren't. It isn't a commentary on your character so much as a commentary on your chosen business model. You would be very popular as a poster on a free site, and you might even get enough hits on a free site to generate ad revenue, but as one who purports to have info that is worth paying for, this kind of news is underwhelming, especially for those of us who have seen the rumor mill at work for several years.

There will always be sites where people discuss Oregon football - more and more pop up all the time. Steve and Marty et al will never be able to shut them all down because they don't own the ducks or news about the ducks or duck recruits, and they can't keep letter-of-intent day from arriving the same time every year. It is the business model that needs to change, not the posters. The same kinds of issues are being contested in real estate and investment houses. The internet is a beautiful thing.

Very well said !

[karlhungis]

I think 247 has good info, netter than Scout at least. Hell, free sites are getting a lot of info and names before Talefetters is.

[NCDucks09]

I think 247 has good info, netter than Scout at least. Hell, free sites are getting a lot of info and names before Talefetters is.

My two cents, I'll never pay for recruiting information, because it's all speculation. Speculation is great while the bubble is floating, but when it pops, ouch, that hurts. Just ask the US Economy after the .com crash and sub-prime mortgage crisis.

That being said, I love and appreciate this site, because it's a free, fun, and very interactive site, with great info, just as good if not better info than pay sites. We discuss possibilities here, knowing that all opinions are just opinions, and are in the spirit of promoting Duck football, not pocket books.

[PDXShogun]

I've never understood the hate that some posters on here seem to have for Jhop. Pretty irrational to resent someone who leaves to get paid for something he used to do for free.

I've subscribed to a few recruiting sites previously. They're fun but they deal in a lot of rumors and largely go on the word of 17 year old kids who are being told different things by their family, friends, coaches, recruiters, teammates and others who all have their own agendas; and we're surprised when these kids change their minds? I've always felt uncomfortable when we bash a kid for changing his decision and it's even more ridiculous to blame the messenger (i.e. recruiting sites).

As far overstating headlines to drive up traffic, welcome back from that rock you've been hiding under. It's a tatic older than the internet and is used by every news outlet on Earth. If that upsets you, than you're probably angry all the time.

[jimmy12]

Lock this thing-- we are now deviating and talking about personal feelings toward jhop.