over on the usc board they're....

[vagusnerve]

talking about how they will be taking a 2011 class of 34 or 35 players this year.

yes, 35 players. as in, 10 players over the annual limit.

this will put them at nearly the full load of 85 scholarships per year.

they are currently accruing an amazing class that is not just filled with elite players but has so much depth that it will carry them through the sanctions without a problem.

how is this even possible? it seems ridiculous on its face.

they are on sanctions and they are winning every head to head with the Ducks this year outside of Lyerla. and they can do this because they can take absolutely everyone they want.

what is going on here?

[Boom]

ummmm well it's pretty obvious.

They currently have NO scholarship limitations

They have found kids who can qualify and enroll early so that they can count them against last years recruiting #'s

[duckamania]

They're not winning every battle. Besides Lyerla, Anthony Wallace, Devon Blackmon, Andre Y, Tyler Johnstone, and Lake Koa Kai all had SC offers but chose the ducks. But defensive tackle is the most important position still out there for us and we need one of Simmons or Heyward. If SC was going to take that large of class though wouldn't that leave them with less than ten scholarships to give out next year if the sanctions hold?

[Boom]

They're not winning every battle. Besides Lyerla, Anthony Wallace, Devon Blackmon, Andre Y, Tyler Johnstone, and Lake Koa Kai all had SC offers but chose the ducks. But defensive tackle is the most important position still out there for us and we need one of Simmons or Heyward. If SC was going to take that large of class though wouldn't that leave them with less than ten scholarships to give out next year if the sanctions hold?

I'm not sure.... they will have 85 kids on scholarship next year... If the sanctions hold they will only be able to carry 75 kids on scholarships for the following 3 years... with a max hand out of 15 per year.

So if they have 85 and then lose 20-25 at the end of the year then they can offer 10-15 kids.

[rjfrik]

You guys need to understand that however many recruits they go over the 15 limit this year will be subtracted out of their class in 2014. Remember 9 or 7 (I can't remember which) guys in this class have already enrolled in school so they don't count against the 15. I think right now after subtracting those guys they still are 6 or 7 guys over the 15. So in 2014 they will only be able to sign 9 or 8 guys. If they think this current group of kids will suffice then great. We will really see the affects of this come 2014, 2015, 2016. Those years USC will not be very good at all.

[greenyellow]

They have found loopholes to keep themselves afloat in case the NCAA rules against them in their appeal. Oregon or any other school would be doing the same things that the Trojans are doing to brace themselves for a sanction period.

[buckmarkduck]

Since I'm pretty sure you don't pay to view premium content on the SC site, I would take whatever you read on there free board with a grain of salt. Those guys posting on the free site have about as much in site as those on educk posting on open season. Funny right now they have a thread saying slick Rick is going to be fired the day after LOI day. They are just guessing of blowing smoke.

[hines]

yes, 35 players. as in, 10 players over the annual limit.

it's literally impossible for them to take that many and if you don't understand the math, then it's on you, not us.

[PDXShogun]

From what I understand, SC's is appealing to have their scholarship reduction changed from 10 each year for 3 years, down to 5. With this they plan to award 20 scholarships instead of 25 in addition to the 9 already enrolled that count toward last year. If they win their appeal, this season would count as one of the 3. If they lose their appeal the penalties would be delayed to start with next year's class.

[buckmarkduck]

I doubt they win the appeal. Listing to Petros this week he said that yes SC fans think there is a shot and some are confident, but he doesn't think it will happen. He gave it a 15% chance of getting overturned. Remember they can't even include new evidence in the appeal, so it seems like they are asking the NCAA to just change their minds and admit they made a mistake. The NCAA doesn't admit their flaws.

[TheMaehlMan]

I doubt they win the appeal. Listing to Petros this week he said that yes SC fans think there is a shot and some are confident, but he doesn't think it will happen. He gave it a 15% chance of getting overturned. Remember they can't even include new evidence in the appeal, so it seems like they are asking the NCAA to just change their minds and admit they made a mistake. The NCAA doesn't admit their flaws.

If USC's sanctions were reduced it would just cap off a year of the NCAA making piss-poor decisions. I hope you are right, but I won't put anything past the NCAA..

[vagusnerve]

yes, 35 players. as in, 10 players over the annual limit.

it's literally impossible for them to take that many and if you don't understand the math, then it's on you, not us.

well, impossible or not, it seems as if that's exactly what they will do.

i understand it now because someone explained it in this thread very well...