USC's 2012 class size (its not as small as you think)

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USC's 2012 class size (its not as small as you think)

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I took a look at the roster numbers for what USC can take in regards to class size next year. By Kiffen's own words they had 49 players on scholarship at the end of this last year.. Add in the 30 they are bring in that leaves an overflow of 4 spots given a max. They will probably greyshirt the bottom 4 of their class. On their roster they have 30 seniors this year (meaning a net loss of around 23 scholies off their books, If you assume 3/4 are on scholarship That means a total roster size of 55 including the kids coming off the greyshirt. They would have 19 spots open next year at the least (not including NFL draft early entrants that would open up more spots) to work with on the trail. I would like to think that they would have a tiny class, but the numbers sadly say otherwise.
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They wont have 19 spots. More like 13. You can't count back while on sanctions I don't believe.
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It will be a small class, just like some other Pac-12 schools. Oregon is probably only going to be able to take 15-18, as will probably UCLA. Not sure about the Arizona schools, but it seems like they'll have some bigger SR classes so will be able to fill up more than they did this year.
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Sanctions still say 15, right? So regardless that's all they can take.
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Their total scholarship limit is 80
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Zyme wrote:Their total scholarship limit is 80
pretty sure it's 75
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Boom wrote:
Zyme wrote:Their total scholarship limit is 80
pretty sure it's 75
Yeah if the sanctions stand it's 75 and a max of 15 a year.
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I think 15 is the max they can take reguardless next year I believe? Am I wrong??? I don't really know.
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If the Sanctions stand the max they can take is 15.

I don't think the Max cap of 75 will get in their way because they will Saban out players they don't want to be able to use all 15. (They might get rid of some of the lower rated EE's they took this year after they have used them for depth.)

So start your countdown at 15. They have 4 commits for 2012 right now, 11 to go. Three of four 2012 commits are Wide Receivers and one monsterously tall OT. I wonder if they might not pull their offer on one or more of these WRs if their appeal is denied. It is not a position of need at all so to waste 3 of 15 spots on a non-need position is stupid.
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GrandpaDuck wrote:If the Sanctions stand the max they can take is 15.

I don't think the Max cap of 75 will get in their way because they will Saban out players they don't want to be able to use all 15. (They might get rid of some of the lower rated EE's they took this year after they have used them for depth.)

So start your countdown at 15. They have 4 commits for 2012 right now, 11 to go. Three of four 2012 commits are Wide Receivers and one monsterously tall OT. I wonder if they might not pull their offer on one or more of these WRs if their appeal is denied. It is not a position of need at all so to waste 3 of 15 spots on a non-need position is stupid.
Why are they taking so many WRs when they already got a lot in the last couple classes?
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greenyellow wrote:
GrandpaDuck wrote:If the Sanctions stand the max they can take is 15.

I don't think the Max cap of 75 will get in their way because they will Saban out players they don't want to be able to use all 15. (They might get rid of some of the lower rated EE's they took this year after they have used them for depth.)

So start your countdown at 15. They have 4 commits for 2012 right now, 11 to go. Three of four 2012 commits are Wide Receivers and one monsterously tall OT. I wonder if they might not pull their offer on one or more of these WRs if their appeal is denied. It is not a position of need at all so to waste 3 of 15 spots on a non-need position is stupid.
Why are they taking so many WRs when they already got a lot in the last couple classes?
My bet is by bad luck. They put out 30+ offers spread out over many positions but the WRs they offered jumped early compared to the players at other positions. Their WR coach must have a golden touch. Like I said before my bet is by signing day next year a couple of these guys will be encouraged to look elsewhere.
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USC fans think their class next year is going to be from 11-13 if they lose the appeal. They already have used up those spots on 3 WRs. haha
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Phenom wrote:USC fans think their class next year is going to be from 11-13 if they lose the appeal. They already have used up those spots on 3 WRs. haha
I used to think the Max Limit would get in the way like they are calculating, then I remembered how good Kiffen was at running players off at Tennessee so he could bring in his own guys. I would bet the farm he makes room to get all 15 slots available.

Also if he holds true to form he'll piss off members of PCs last couple of classes (RS Sophs and Juniors) by playing his guys from the 2011 class ahead of them without (in their minds) earning it. This will cause some transfers.
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49 scholies right now.+ 30 from this class. That equals 79. That means an overflow of 4, so 4 greyshirts. If, as you say they have 4 kids already committed, That mean -8 from next year's #s. Based upon my assumption of around 23 kids coming off schlorship that would leave them with 11 available slots (with a total recruiting class of 15). Any Junior defections to the NFL and you would have even more slots opened up.
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