So, about the 2012 Class

[AugustDuck]

The never ending cycle begins

I can't believe it's already February 3rd and we don't have any current verbal commits! The last two years we already had a commitment by this time! We didn't sign any HS DT and we never will! The sky is falling!



sorry thought I was on e-duck for a minute there.

[PDXShogun]

I fully expect the 2012 class to be as good, if not better than the 2011 class. USC wont be able to sign 32 players next year, so that helps.

Problem here is that we only have 11 or 12 scholarship seniors this year. Assume LMJ's early departure, maybe not re-newing Hoffman's scholarship and a couple others and we'll likely only have around 15 available scholarships for the '12 class.


On the bright side, even with LMJ's departure, we are going to be LOADED in 2012.

[PDXShogun]

Isn't Barry Sanders JR in the 2012 class? If we could steal him from okie state, that would be bigger than what we pulled off with DAT.

He's not coming here. His current favorites outside the Oklahoma schools are Alabama and Florida State. If he leaves the state he's only going East.

Which is OK. We don't need an RB with this class. With so few scholarships available we can save them to use on the DL.

[buckmarkduck]

Agree we don't need a RB this year unless it's a top rated guy, you can't pass them up.

As for amount of scholarship, CK said yesterday we actually have 3-4 spots left for this year that can carry over to next year. I would expect 20-22 next year with a few early enrollee's.

[PDXShogun]

Mosley counts 84 currently including ex-walkon Hoffman.


http://www2.registerguard.com/cms/index ... he-moment/


If Randall gets a passing test score that puts us right at the limit of 85. Considering I only count 11 seniors it would take a Saban-like oversigning effort to get us anywhere near 20 scholarships.

[greenyellow]

Mosley counts 84 currently including ex-walkon Hoffman.


http://www2.registerguard.com/cms/index ... he-moment/


If Randall gets a passing test score that puts us right at the limit of 85. Considering I only count 11 seniors it would take a Saban-like oversigning effort to get us anywhere near 20 scholarships.

Chip did say that he likes to leave a scholarship or two open just in case someone falls into their laps, sort of like Masoli and Marcus Davis.

[ncduck]

Also, we need to consider that there will be potential transfers both before and after next season that will play into the calculation. We could end up with a decent sized class.

[AugustDuck]

I fully expect the 2012 class to be as good, if not better than the 2011 class. USC wont be able to sign 32 players next year, so that helps.

Problem here is that we only have 11 or 12 scholarship seniors this year. Assume LMJ's early departure, maybe not re-newing Hoffman's scholarship and a couple others and we'll likely only have around 15 available scholarships for the '12 class.


On the bright side, even with LMJ's departure, we are going to be LOADED in 2012.

I think we will have more than one early departure next season. I expect LMJ, Cliff, Boyett, and possible DT to leave early. Probably not all 4 - but probably 3 of them.

[woundedknees]

There is definitely the potential for a couple of early departures... I am sure if Cliff Harris has another stellar season, that he will at least consider it strongly. Boyett and DT, I have no idea. If DT shows significant improvement, he will be in on the Hesiman hype, soon enough.

Not sure if that would be enough to keep him around.

[Boom]

Unless your a physical freak (Tebow, Young, Newton)

Then I think it's pretty tough for a spread QB to leave early.

Plus if you look at our system and Thomas inaccuracy issues.... I would be shocked if he left early.


I do expect multiple transfers after next season though... there will be 1-2 db's on the outside looking in on our rotation. Same with the RB's/Tazers.

[PDXShogun]

LaMichael is a given. We're lucky he even came back this year.

Cliff is a real possibility. Needs to get bigger and be more consistent but he's in line for a great year.

Boyett is doubtful. Nice college player but 5'10 safeties without elite speed are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Thomas also doubtful. Spread option quarterbacks are always a huge ? in the draft and he doesn't seem to have the elite tools that pro scouts look for.


Of course you can never tell who gets in a guys ear and tells him he's the greatest thing or if they are in a situation where they need to start to provide for their family, but I'd be shocked if Boyett and Thomas weren't around for their senior years.

[stlDUCKfan]

LaMichael is a given. We're lucky he even came back this year.

Cliff is a real possibility. Needs to get bigger and be more consistent but he's in line for a great year.

Boyett is doubtful. Nice college player but 5'10 safeties without elite speed are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Thomas also doubtful. Spread option quarterbacks are always a huge ? in the draft and he doesn't seem to have the elite tools that pro scouts look for.


Of course you can never tell who gets in a guys ear and tells him he's the greatest thing or if they are in a situation where they need to start to provide for their family, but I'd be shocked if Boyett and Thomas weren't around for their senior years.

LaMichael and Cliff are the only NFL players out of those. LaMichael probably isn't even a first rounder. I think with another good year, Cliff will be.

[headshottzzzz]

LaMichael is a given. We're lucky he even came back this year.

Cliff is a real possibility. Needs to get bigger and be more consistent but he's in line for a great year.

Boyett is doubtful. Nice college player but 5'10 safeties without elite speed are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Thomas also doubtful. Spread option quarterbacks are always a huge ? in the draft and he doesn't seem to have the elite tools that pro scouts look for.


Of course you can never tell who gets in a guys ear and tells him he's the greatest thing or if they are in a situation where they need to start to provide for their family, but I'd be shocked if Boyett and Thomas weren't around for their senior years.

LMJ isn't a given. He really doesn't have the size to project to be anything more than a rotational back. He'll be the most talented rotational guy in the NFL, but he won't be purely a franchise player. He'll be favored to come out, but don't discount what the NFL naysayers will be telling him.

DT will come back, I think. Unless something crazy happens, he's more of a college player than an NFL prospect.

Boyett could go. He's super talented, plus he has the Oregon DB pedigree to boost his status.

Paulson is a guy who could leave. He's super talented, will be eligible to go pro next year, and could be a 2nd or 3rd round prospect, which is really good for a TE.

Barner is another guy who could go, especially if LMJ wants to stay.

Jackson Rice could go. He's talented enough (and has an ego big enough FWIW) for him to want to go pro.

If Dion Jordan has a breakout (by breakout I mean Fairley-esque dominant) year, then he could go pro as well.

Not all of these guys will go. Most will stay, but there are some definite leave early candidates in this year's underclassmen crop.

[Zyme]

LaMichael is a given. We're lucky he even came back this year.

Cliff is a real possibility. Needs to get bigger and be more consistent but he's in line for a great year.

Boyett is doubtful. Nice college player but 5'10 safeties without elite speed are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Thomas also doubtful. Spread option quarterbacks are always a huge ? in the draft and he doesn't seem to have the elite tools that pro scouts look for.


Of course you can never tell who gets in a guys ear and tells him he's the greatest thing or if they are in a situation where they need to start to provide for their family, but I'd be shocked if Boyett and Thomas weren't around for their senior years.

LaMichael and Cliff are the only NFL players out of those. LaMichael probably isn't even a first rounder. I think with another good year, Cliff will be.

MJD. First round skills, size pushes him to the 2nd round. Book it. He'll still make one hell of a pro.

[headshottzzzz]

LaMichael is a given. We're lucky he even came back this year.

Cliff is a real possibility. Needs to get bigger and be more consistent but he's in line for a great year.

Boyett is doubtful. Nice college player but 5'10 safeties without elite speed are a dime a dozen in the NFL.

Thomas also doubtful. Spread option quarterbacks are always a huge ? in the draft and he doesn't seem to have the elite tools that pro scouts look for.


Of course you can never tell who gets in a guys ear and tells him he's the greatest thing or if they are in a situation where they need to start to provide for their family, but I'd be shocked if Boyett and Thomas weren't around for their senior years.

LaMichael and Cliff are the only NFL players out of those. LaMichael probably isn't even a first rounder. I think with another good year, Cliff will be.

MJD. First round skills, size pushes him to the 2nd round. Book it. He'll still make one hell of a pro.

LMJ doesn't have MJD's girth or run power. He hits hard, to be sure, but he's not quite as versatile as MJD. Plus MJD can catch the ball out of the backfield a lot better than LMJ. When it comes to James think Ahmad Bradshaw on super-speed with about 5.85x more talent. But he'll be used in a similar way to Bradshaw, as a change of pace guy to complement a bigger back.