Is this the best recruiting class ever

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Re: Is this the best recruiting class ever

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buckmarkduck wrote:Yes this is without a doubt the best class signed by UO ever. And I disagree with the above poster who said our biggest area of need was DL, it wasn't it was Oline and we signed perhaps the best oline class ever at UO. We lost to Auburn not because of Dline, but because our oline got pushed back all game. Andre Y is just nasty, how he's not a 5* is a mystery. Johnstone has huge potential as does Fisher. By far our oline class was tops in the Pac12, there's a reason SC kept calling Andre and Johnstone up to the last minute.
Very true our OLine recruits rock and why people are mentioning and blaming our Dline in the title game as being our weakness is a joke, our Oline needed serious help and they are on the way!
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buckmarkduck wrote:Yes this is without a doubt the best class signed by UO ever. And I disagree with the above poster who said our biggest area of need was DL, it wasn't it was Oline and we signed perhaps the best oline class ever at UO. We lost to Auburn not because of Dline, but because our oline got pushed back all game. Andre Y is just nasty, how he's not a 5* is a mystery. Johnstone has huge potential as does Fisher. By far our oline class was tops in the Pac12, there's a reason SC kept calling Andre and Johnstone up to the last minute.
Our O-line was very good this year, not great but very good. Fairly and their D-line did that to many teams this year especially late in the season.
The two most important area's of great team is the QB and defensive line. Then the O-line. We did very well getting hopefully some very good O-lineman but we fell far short in addressing our d-line needs.
As far DAT, He looks very good on tape but so did Seastrunk, actually IMO Seastrunk's video's looked better. But at 5'9" 160lbs he going find it tough going for awhile at D-1 level. Players are much bigger faster and stronger. Ask LaMike, Barner and Seastrunk. Dillion Baxter's video's looked fantastic. Reggie Bush didn't play much his freshman year. Let hold back on the greatest Player in Oregon history talk for now. Hopefully he does live up to the hype.
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I don't think enough people are giving guys like Lake, Kamp and Ebert enough credit. Lake is already almost as big as Hart at 260 ( he said he played at 255 this year and is 260 right now) I think like Hart did, he will put on 20-30 lbs in his first year and play inside. He's got the frame for it at 6'4 260 he actually looks skinny. Kamp is 245 right now so he could stay at DE or we'll see what a RS year and a year with coach Rad does to him. Ebert could be a starter this year, he looks like a clone of Bair but bigger. Then we have the wildcards of Colt and French, one of them will more than likely end up at DE. Yeah we missed on Simmons but Byers was no better than what we got, he was just depth and really Simons wasn't going to come in here at 265 and be a dominant DT right away.

I would guess next year we sign 1-2 JC guys and 2-3 high school guys and make up for missing on a couple guys this year. It helps when we have two guys right in Oregon who actually are Oregon fans and 1, Deeks, sounds as if/when we offer, we be his top choice.
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We've got plenty of DE's. Lake ,Kamp ( is listed at less than 240lbs in some sites),Hart are NOT true D-tackles.Their make do D-tackles.
Coach Azz has done a tremendous job with the makeshift D-line he has had to put together. The only true stud D tackle we've gotten in a long time is Heimuli. We need more.
Think how great Azz could make our D-line if he actually had some true D-tackles to work with.
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CK is really high on Ebert, our JUCO So. I'll be interesting if he plays as a starter or in the rotation.
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Bigducker wrote:We've got plenty of DE's. Lake ,Kamp ( is listed at less than 240lbs in some sites),Hart are NOT true D-tackles.Their make do D-tackles.
Coach Azz has done a tremendous job with the makeshift D-line he has had to put together. The only true stud D tackle we've gotten in a long time is Heimuli. We need more.
Think how great Azz could make our D-line if he actually had some true D-tackles to work with.

word is Chip projects Lake to DT in a yr or two. FWIW
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If Ebert is even close to what his stats say he will be a stud....4.8 40, bench 425 ..wow ! Hopefully he's got good technique too or is a quick learner.

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the espn blog rated our class as a B. I don't know about you, but even without getting a stud DT, there's no way this class is anything but an A. You can't really try and compare our class to says Tennessee's because we have different styles and needs. While others may have gotten the guys they wanted, our guys fit our system to a T.
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ESPN thinks Colt is average that's all you need to know about ESPN. I've always felt ESPN doesn't trully give it's all to recruiting they just dable in it. Sites like rivals, scout and now 247, it's their life blood and they put a lot more work into it, and make sure they get it right. ESPN will be ESPN with or without recruiting, it's more of a hobby for them.

Something interesting I noticed is that Rivals now has Mariota as the 12th rated QB and high 3*, and 247 has him as a 4*. Imagine how good he would have been had he been starting as a JR, he made huge strides as a SR and could be awesome.
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headshottzzzz wrote:Not only is this the best class Oregon has ever gotten, but DAT is the best skill position player Oregon has ever gotten.
No way DAT is better than Halloti Ngata or Jonathon Stewart!
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NCDucks09 wrote:
headshottzzzz wrote:Not only is this the best class Oregon has ever gotten, but DAT is the best skill position player Oregon has ever gotten.
No way DAT is better than Halloti Ngata or Jonathon Stewart!
Considering skill positions don't traditionally include OL/DL, then only Stewart is applicable. If you want overall, regardless of position, then you can add in Ngata.
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buckmarkduck wrote:ESPN thinks Colt is average that's all you need to know about ESPN. I've always felt ESPN doesn't trully give it's all to recruiting they just dable in it. Sites like rivals, scout and now 247, it's their life blood and they put a lot more work into it, and make sure they get it right. ESPN will be ESPN with or without recruiting, it's more of a hobby for them.

Something interesting I noticed is that Rivals now has Mariota as the 12th rated QB and high 3*, and 247 has him as a 4*. Imagine how good he would have been had he been starting as a JR, he made huge strides as a SR and could be awesome.
ESPN having Colt as a 3 star is laughable. I normally dont care too much about "stars", but a blatant disregard to the system is just... wow.
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For whatever reason, there are still a few uncommitted 3/4 star DTs still out there (Not that they are to be thought of as Oregon leans, but neither was DAT, until recently)... 4* John Jenkins, a 6'4"/340 JC DT , and 3* HS DTs, Chavis Akins (6'4"/321) Christopher Cormier (6'3"/315/Strong Missouri lean), Jonathon Battle (6'1"/285/4.9), Quinton Pompei (6'3"/275/4.9), and Andre Young (6'3"/270).

Few of these guys are listed with interest in the Ducks, but several are in areas Oregon is beginning to make recruiting inroads, such as Texas and Florida.

I seriously doubt CK expends a huge amount of effort pursuing more recruits for this class, but surprises hapen!
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Bigducker wrote:We've got plenty of DE's. Lake ,Kamp ( is listed at less than 240lbs in some sites),Hart are NOT true D-tackles.Their make do D-tackles.
Coach Azz has done a tremendous job with the makeshift D-line he has had to put together. The only true stud D tackle we've gotten in a long time is Heimuli. We need more.
Think how great Azz could make our D-line if he actually had some true D-tackles to work with.
Hart was more productive than Heimuli
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NCDucks09 wrote:
headshottzzzz wrote:Not only is this the best class Oregon has ever gotten, but DAT is the best skill position player Oregon has ever gotten.
No way DAT is better than Halloti Ngata or Jonathon Stewart!
I agree... If this kid was to play CB then I would put Cliff Harris above him as well.

I'm sure this kid is really good, but going off his tape.... I thought Seastrunk looked more impressive(@RB).
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