Seriously, how did we land De'Anthony Thomas?

[greenyellow]

Could be true Bumi, but Eugene libs do everything they can to keep Eugene from growing. What they can't stop is UO from dragging it into the 2011. I think the surrounding area will grow though, and actually the city of Eugene is decent size 167,000 compare that to Salt Lake that is 181,000. It's the metro area that is small.

The problem with Eugene is that it's hemmed in by the surrounding communities. It can't grow to the East (Springfield) and limited to the North (Junction City and Coburg). Only real areas to grow are to the South and West and even those have some limitations. The big thing with Eugene is that they've put building rules that only allow it to grow outward and not upward, like a lot of cities do with skyrises and apartment complexes.

[uodux1212]

Could be true Bumi, but Eugene libs do everything they can to keep Eugene from growing. What they can't stop is UO from dragging it into the 2011. I think the surrounding area will grow though, and actually the city of Eugene is decent size 167,000 compare that to Salt Lake that is 181,000. It's the metro area that is small.

The problem with Eugene is that it's hemmed in by the surrounding communities. It can't grow to the East (Springfield) and limited to the North (Junction City and Coburg). Only real areas to grow are to the South and West and even those have some limitations. The big thing with Eugene is that they've put building rules that only allow it to grow outward and not upward, like a lot of cities do with skyrises and apartment complexes.

I work for a real estate developer here in Portland, mixed use condo/retail stuff... We've been trying to do a project in downtown proper for years now, the city govt of Eugene makes it almost impossible... we gave up. Too bad too, downtown area could sure use a face lift... Eventually they will crack, they'll have to to stay viable...

[greenyellow]

Could be true Bumi, but Eugene libs do everything they can to keep Eugene from growing. What they can't stop is UO from dragging it into the 2011. I think the surrounding area will grow though, and actually the city of Eugene is decent size 167,000 compare that to Salt Lake that is 181,000. It's the metro area that is small.

The problem with Eugene is that it's hemmed in by the surrounding communities. It can't grow to the East (Springfield) and limited to the North (Junction City and Coburg). Only real areas to grow are to the South and West and even those have some limitations. The big thing with Eugene is that they've put building rules that only allow it to grow outward and not upward, like a lot of cities do with skyrises and apartment complexes.

I work for a real estate developer here in Portland, mixed use condo/retail stuff... We've been trying to do a project in downtown proper for years now, the city govt of Eugene makes it almost impossible... we gave up. Too bad too, downtown area could sure use a face lift... Eventually they will crack, they'll have to to stay viable...

Big thing with building in downtown Eugene is providing ample parking. There are some very stringent rules that make finding areas for building parking spaces for multiple-story buildings almost impossible.

[Mukden]

I'd just like to interject and say we're all Ducks and Oregonians here, whether by birth or by choice. No need to get hot under the collar.

[fpsduck]

It's South central, who wouldn't want out?

[MFRDuckFan]

Okay, here's a weird post about why Thomas chose Oregon.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co ... im-family/

[Hoagduck]

Okay, here's a weird post about why Thomas chose Oregon.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co ... im-family/

Pretty elaborate rumor. Not out of the realm of possibility in south central, though.

[Destroyer77]

That's a stretch folks....

[wheaton4prez]

A lot of motivation for USC fans to come up with and buy into this type of thing. However, it's not impossible. South Central is no joke.

You would think though that someone would be able to line up an actual police report, arrests, murder etc. with the alleged timing of this story.

[Handsome Dan]

Eugene is beautiful as is; no need to expand it. In fact, if Oregon kept its population perfectly steady, that would be fine with me. California was a lot more beautiful in the 1950's before developers landraped it into a sprawling mess of disgusting suburban development, and Oregon doesn't need to befall a similar fate.

[wheaton4prez]

"Urban Sprawl" is a myth devised for political reasons. 3% of the country is urbanized. The rest is still rural.

Despite having cities that are large relative to other cities, California still has a grip of land that remains virtually untouched by people, let alone lived and developed on. It's a terrain diverse, beautiful state. Anyone doubting that should visit Mendocino, Tahoe, Yosemite, Monterey and Mojave among many other places.

This isn't to take anything away from how nice Oregon is. Just saying that that has more to do with where Oregon is relative to the equator than population or urban planning decisions.

[greenyellow]

"Urban Sprawl" is a myth devised for political reasons. 3% of the country is urbanized. The rest is still rural.

Despite having cities that are large relative to other cities, California still has a grip of land that remains virtually untouched by people, let alone lived and developed on. It's a terrain diverse, beautiful state. Anyone doubting that should visit Mendocino, Tahoe, Yosemite, Monterey and Mojave among many other places.

This isn't to take anything away from how nice Oregon is. Just saying that that has more to do with where Oregon is relative to the equator than population or urban planning decisions.

California has a lot of undeveloped land but a lot of that is government owned or in the middle of nowhere. How many people want to live in the Mojave Desert or 100 miles from the nearest town?

[wheaton4prez]

That is no different than Oregon. 100 miles from Eugene is no different than 100 miles from Los Angeles in terms of boondockness.

Pretty sure that Oregon has a similar percentage of government owned land, if not more.

[greenyellow]

That is no different than Oregon. 100 miles from Eugene is no different than 100 miles from Los Angeles in terms of boondockness.

Pretty sure that Oregon has a similar percentage of government owned land, if not more.

Most people flock to urban areas since that's where the good jobs are. Only real reasons to live far out in the sticks are for privacy and farming. I like living in the country for the privacy and small-town feel, but like living close enough to Eugene so that I can easily get things I want or need.

[Zyme]

Could be true Bumi, but Eugene libs do everything they can to keep Eugene from growing. What they can't stop is UO from dragging it into the 2011. I think the surrounding area will grow though, and actually the city of Eugene is decent size 167,000 compare that to Salt Lake that is 181,000. It's the metro area that is small.

The problem with Eugene is that it's hemmed in by the surrounding communities. It can't grow to the East (Springfield) and limited to the North (Junction City and Coburg). Only real areas to grow are to the South and West and even those have some limitations. The big thing with Eugene is that they've put building rules that only allow it to grow outward and not upward, like a lot of cities do with skyrises and apartment complexes.

I work for a real estate developer here in Portland, mixed use condo/retail stuff... We've been trying to do a project in downtown proper for years now, the city govt of Eugene makes it almost impossible... we gave up. Too bad too, downtown area could sure use a face lift... Eventually they will crack, they'll have to to stay viable...

Big thing with building in downtown Eugene is providing ample parking. There are some very stringent rules that make finding areas for building parking spaces for multiple-story buildings almost impossible.

Except eugene parking are a load of nazis. You barely touch a line, ticket. Parking checks on the hour, ticket. I was once blocked and prevented from driving away so the meter could expire, ticket.