NFL Lockout: College Fallout
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JRAVI
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Re: NFL Lockout: College Fallout
I have to say I have little respect for the owners. They are locking the players out for more money. The players were fine with the current deal. Was it working? Obviously it is the most popular it has ever been. I disagree with the need for a change in the cba. Many owners complain of the need for money for up keep of stadiums but many of those stadiums are supported with public funding. It's all about greed.
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ncduck
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Re: NFL Lockout: College Fallout
The owners put huge sums of money into buying those teams. It was an investment. They would be stupid to give away their investment.
It's bad business to leave money on the table. In fact, the owners made a foolish decision with the last cba. Now they are trying to correct it.
Simply calling it greed is dismisive of the reality that without the owners there is no league. It has to be profitable or the value of each franchise will decline and the investment will no longer be worth it.
If your retirement portfolio is not making the % growth you want, you make changes to it either to be more conservative or aggressive. I want people managing my retirement to maximize the value of it.
I don't want some jackass managing my money who says, well gee let's not get greedy we should just put all of your retirement into a money market account.
They need to maximize their investment, just like the players.
It's bad business to leave money on the table. In fact, the owners made a foolish decision with the last cba. Now they are trying to correct it.
Simply calling it greed is dismisive of the reality that without the owners there is no league. It has to be profitable or the value of each franchise will decline and the investment will no longer be worth it.
If your retirement portfolio is not making the % growth you want, you make changes to it either to be more conservative or aggressive. I want people managing my retirement to maximize the value of it.
I don't want some jackass managing my money who says, well gee let's not get greedy we should just put all of your retirement into a money market account.
They need to maximize their investment, just like the players.
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briarduck
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Re: NFL Lockout: College Fallout
Good points guys, IMHO what needs to get done is...
First, To those not liking the owners, yes there are a few we don't like, but these guys own the teams and are allowed to make money. The players play knowing the risks and the pay they receive far outweighs the risks but these guys need some sort of insurance for life after FB.
1. Rookie Salaries, especially the 1st RD guys, needs a reality check this is killing teams when the players don't work out! I'd like to see a similar pay scale with the NHL with incentives so if they are great they get paid for it!
2. Scaling back the pay for the players is a good thing...83% of the revenue, are you fricken kidding me!
3. Lose the preseason and add the extra games. Yes I like the preseason for the younger players too but if they want more games for revenue they already play them, so why not make them count!
In the end CFB is better and what ever happens happens...getting paid millions to play a game is outlandish and I can't believe these guys can complain and get away with it and the reason I hate unions! FYI, I was part of a union a number of years ago and I laugh at what we got away with and this is just larger scale. Unions were originally such a great thing, now they just take advantage/cripple and hold companies ransom and its wrong!
First, To those not liking the owners, yes there are a few we don't like, but these guys own the teams and are allowed to make money. The players play knowing the risks and the pay they receive far outweighs the risks but these guys need some sort of insurance for life after FB.
1. Rookie Salaries, especially the 1st RD guys, needs a reality check this is killing teams when the players don't work out! I'd like to see a similar pay scale with the NHL with incentives so if they are great they get paid for it!
2. Scaling back the pay for the players is a good thing...83% of the revenue, are you fricken kidding me!
3. Lose the preseason and add the extra games. Yes I like the preseason for the younger players too but if they want more games for revenue they already play them, so why not make them count!
In the end CFB is better and what ever happens happens...getting paid millions to play a game is outlandish and I can't believe these guys can complain and get away with it and the reason I hate unions! FYI, I was part of a union a number of years ago and I laugh at what we got away with and this is just larger scale. Unions were originally such a great thing, now they just take advantage/cripple and hold companies ransom and its wrong!
GO DUCKS!! WTD!
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TheMaehlMan
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Re: NFL Lockout: College Fallout
You can't ask the players to take a paycut and then add two more regular season games..It just wouldn't fly in my opinion.
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greenyellow
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Re: NFL Lockout: College Fallout
Definitely something that they wouldn't agree to. The only things I could really see them agreeing to is 2 less pre-season games and a rookie pay scale.TheMaehlMan wrote:You can't ask the players to take a paycut and then add two more regular season games..It just wouldn't fly in my opinion.
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TheMaehlMan
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Re: NFL Lockout: College Fallout
I'm definitely in-favor of the rookie pay-scale, but I'm mixed about adding two more games. Sure, most people consider the preseason as meaningless...but I think having those 4 games makes it a lot easier for coaches to fill out the bottom of the roster. But of course I won't complain with two more regular season gamesgreenyellow wrote:Definitely something that they wouldn't agree to. The only things I could really see them agreeing to is 2 less pre-season games and a rookie pay scale.TheMaehlMan wrote:You can't ask the players to take a paycut and then add two more regular season games..It just wouldn't fly in my opinion.
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wheaton4prez
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Re: NFL Lockout: College Fallout
I actually think that the regular season needs to be reduced.
The current size of the league already can't sustain the current number of regular season games without creating a bunch of meaningless games at the end of the season. It should be a 12 game regular season.
I'd like to see more football games. But, I believe that the answer is to add more teams to the league rather than adding games to the schedule.
The current size of the league already can't sustain the current number of regular season games without creating a bunch of meaningless games at the end of the season. It should be a 12 game regular season.
I'd like to see more football games. But, I believe that the answer is to add more teams to the league rather than adding games to the schedule.