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NCDucks09 wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:Fact Cal has signed great QB's every year for the last 7 years, unless you don't consider elite 11 QB's great. Yet every year these same recruits get worse once they get to Berkley. Tedford isn't the qb guru people once thought, and Kelly will run him out of Autzen again. To say Ludwig was the issue their is shortsighted, he was only their 2 years.

Here is their QB recruits since 05
05-5* Joe Ayoob, or white Mike Vick :lol: (bust), 4* and #6 overall QB recruit Kyle Reed, didn't do a thing at Cal tranfered.
06-4* Riley, we all know this story.
07-4* Brock Mansion, played some looked avg at best.
08-3* Beau Sweeney(had UO offer)
09-4* Allen Bridgford
10-3* Austin Hinder elite 11 QB and US Army AA, not sure why he was only 3* with all that and offers from ND, Alabama, Stanford and UCLA.
11-4* Kyle Boehm
Conveniently you left out Aaron Rodgers, yeah, the guy that just won the Super Bowl and one of the top 5 elite QB's in the league.

That being said, Cal does underachieve. However, they play us every year like the UW/UO rivalry used to be.
I didn't conveniently leave Rodgers off the list I wasn't going back to 2003. But since he's the only good QB that Tedford has recruited himself, that just goes to my thought that Tedford isn't a QB guru. When Tedford came to UO he inherited Joey, Aj and Akili, he didn't recruit them. He went to Cal and inherited Kyle Boller who was one of the top rated HS Qb's when he came out. So if not for Rodgers, Ted would have been batting the big 0 when it comes to identifying QB's who fit his system. In fact you could compare what Tedford has done with 4* QB's to what Kent did with 4* post.
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buckmarkduck wrote:
NCDucks09 wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:Fact Cal has signed great QB's every year for the last 7 years, unless you don't consider elite 11 QB's great. Yet every year these same recruits get worse once they get to Berkley. Tedford isn't the qb guru people once thought, and Kelly will run him out of Autzen again. To say Ludwig was the issue their is shortsighted, he was only their 2 years.

Here is their QB recruits since 05
05-5* Joe Ayoob, or white Mike Vick :lol: (bust), 4* and #6 overall QB recruit Kyle Reed, didn't do a thing at Cal tranfered.
06-4* Riley, we all know this story.
07-4* Brock Mansion, played some looked avg at best.
08-3* Beau Sweeney(had UO offer)
09-4* Allen Bridgford
10-3* Austin Hinder elite 11 QB and US Army AA, not sure why he was only 3* with all that and offers from ND, Alabama, Stanford and UCLA.
11-4* Kyle Boehm
Conveniently you left out Aaron Rodgers, yeah, the guy that just won the Super Bowl and one of the top 5 elite QB's in the league.

That being said, Cal does underachieve. However, they play us every year like the UW/UO rivalry used to be.
I didn't conveniently leave Rodgers off the list I wasn't going back to 2003. But since he's the only good QB that Tedford has recruited himself, that just goes to my thought that Tedford isn't a QB guru. When Tedford came to UO he inherited Joey, Aj and Akili, he didn't recruit them. He went to Cal and inherited Kyle Boller who was one of the top rated HS Qb's when he came out. So if not for Rodgers, Ted would have been batting the big 0 when it comes to identifying QB's who fit his system. In fact you could compare what Tedford has done with 4* QB's to what Kent did with 4* post.
Dude, not many coaches can claim a future hall of famer... All it takes is one like that. Tedford is a phenomenal QB coach, but not a great Head Coach. That's all.
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buckmarkduck wrote:
NCDucks09 wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:Fact Cal has signed great QB's every year for the last 7 years, unless you don't consider elite 11 QB's great. Yet every year these same recruits get worse once they get to Berkley. Tedford isn't the qb guru people once thought, and Kelly will run him out of Autzen again. To say Ludwig was the issue their is shortsighted, he was only their 2 years.

Here is their QB recruits since 05
05-5* Joe Ayoob, or white Mike Vick :lol: (bust), 4* and #6 overall QB recruit Kyle Reed, didn't do a thing at Cal tranfered.
06-4* Riley, we all know this story.
07-4* Brock Mansion, played some looked avg at best.
08-3* Beau Sweeney(had UO offer)
09-4* Allen Bridgford
10-3* Austin Hinder elite 11 QB and US Army AA, not sure why he was only 3* with all that and offers from ND, Alabama, Stanford and UCLA.
11-4* Kyle Boehm
Conveniently you left out Aaron Rodgers, yeah, the guy that just won the Super Bowl and one of the top 5 elite QB's in the league.

That being said, Cal does underachieve. However, they play us every year like the UW/UO rivalry used to be.
I didn't conveniently leave Rodgers off the list I wasn't going back to 2003. But since he's the only good QB that Tedford has recruited himself, that just goes to my thought that Tedford isn't a QB guru. When Tedford came to UO he inherited Joey, Aj and Akili, he didn't recruit them. He went to Cal and inherited Kyle Boller who was one of the top rated HS Qb's when he came out. So if not for Rodgers, Ted would have been batting the big 0 when it comes to identifying QB's who fit his system. In fact you could compare what Tedford has done with 4* QB's to what Kent did with 4* post.
Didn't Tedford recruit Kellen Clemens or am I off by one year?
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NCDucks09 wrote: Dude, not many coaches can claim a future hall of famer... All it takes is one like that. Tedford is a phenomenal QB coach, but not a great Head Coach. That's all.
I don't think Tedford deserves even as much credit as McCarthy for Rodgers' development.
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Wasn't Tedford involved with David Carr somehow too?

Looked it up he was at Fresno St. before coming to Oregon.
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With Rodgers, how many years did he play under tedford, 1?
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maxduck wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:
NCDucks09 wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:Fact Cal has signed great QB's every year for the last 7 years, unless you don't consider elite 11 QB's great. Yet every year these same recruits get worse once they get to Berkley. Tedford isn't the qb guru people once thought, and Kelly will run him out of Autzen again. To say Ludwig was the issue their is shortsighted, he was only their 2 years.

Here is their QB recruits since 05
05-5* Joe Ayoob, or white Mike Vick :lol: (bust), 4* and #6 overall QB recruit Kyle Reed, didn't do a thing at Cal tranfered.
06-4* Riley, we all know this story.
07-4* Brock Mansion, played some looked avg at best.
08-3* Beau Sweeney(had UO offer)
09-4* Allen Bridgford
10-3* Austin Hinder elite 11 QB and US Army AA, not sure why he was only 3* with all that and offers from ND, Alabama, Stanford and UCLA.
11-4* Kyle Boehm
Conveniently you left out Aaron Rodgers, yeah, the guy that just won the Super Bowl and one of the top 5 elite QB's in the league.

That being said, Cal does underachieve. However, they play us every year like the UW/UO rivalry used to be.
I didn't conveniently leave Rodgers off the list I wasn't going back to 2003. But since he's the only good QB that Tedford has recruited himself, that just goes to my thought that Tedford isn't a QB guru. When Tedford came to UO he inherited Joey, Aj and Akili, he didn't recruit them. He went to Cal and inherited Kyle Boller who was one of the top rated HS Qb's when he came out. So if not for Rodgers, Ted would have been batting the big 0 when it comes to identifying QB's who fit his system. In fact you could compare what Tedford has done with 4* QB's to what Kent did with 4* post.
Didn't Tedford recruit Kellen Clemens or am I off by one year?
Clemens was redshirting during Tedford's final season, so yes. Clemens was in our backyard though, so he may have come here even if Tedford wasn't OC. I would like to point out that Tedford also recruited Jason Fife, lol.
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swagnatic101 wrote:Clemens was redshirting during Tedford's final season, so yes. Clemens was in our backyard though, so he may have come here even if Tedford wasn't OC. I would like to point out that Tedford also recruited Jason Fife, lol.
Jason Fife suffered the curse of Andy Ludwig, who knows how he would have been with a real QB coach. I think Fife is still earning money playing football so he had some talent.
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maxduck wrote:
swagnatic101 wrote:Clemens was redshirting during Tedford's final season, so yes. Clemens was in our backyard though, so he may have come here even if Tedford wasn't OC. I would like to point out that Tedford also recruited Jason Fife, lol.
Jason Fife suffered the curse of Andy Ludwig, who knows how he would have been with a real QB coach. I think Fife is still earning money playing football so he had some talent.
I think Fife would have been pretty solid in our current offense.
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Duck07 wrote:With Rodgers, how many years did he play under tedford, 1?
2 years but i think he split time his 1st year i think. Rodgers did have one of the best games ever for a QB vs USC in 04' but came short of the upset.

Tedford and Cal has gone downhill quickly since Riley's brainfart vs Oregon St in 07' when they were #2 in the nation. That might still have a lingering effect thats gotten worse over the last couple years.
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if tedford is such a great qb coach, then why did Aaron Rodgers sit on the bench for 3 years? oh yeah, Favre was a head of him. why anyone is giving tedford credit for what mccarthy has done for him is an idiot.
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I think Fife would have been pretty solid in our current offense.
you've already forgotten that we tried to make him an option qb a good chunk of time. of all the qb's in the past 10 years, fife is the one who really got screwed with play calling.
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maxduck wrote:
swagnatic101 wrote:Clemens was redshirting during Tedford's final season, so yes. Clemens was in our backyard though, so he may have come here even if Tedford wasn't OC. I would like to point out that Tedford also recruited Jason Fife, lol.
Jason Fife suffered the curse of Andy Ludwig, who knows how he would have been with a real QB coach. I think Fife is still earning money playing football so he had some talent.
Fife is now living in Oregon, coaching JV FB at Cottage Grove HS. Not sure what else he's doing besides coaching, possibly working on a graduate degree.
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Cal wastes talent at nearly the same rate as UCLA.
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Boom wrote:They still need a QB
And a coach
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