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I still can't believe that there isn't any video footage at all of the event
Makes you wonder right...
I agree. If I was in a football town and got beat up by a bunch of football players, I would lawyer up as well. I certainly don't see it as a money grab on their part.
Only reason why you would need an attorney is for a civil claim...thus "money"...with that said, a lot victims would hired a attorney at some point because it is how you would seek reimbursement for the damages caused by the attack...like I said the logical side of me says "perfectly normal" the extreme fan in me says "fricking money grubbing liars".

In any event, the more I hear the more I think that a lot of this is bullsch*t…though I don’t know if that is the fan or the lawyer talking, probably somewhere in between.
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Bud Lee wrote:Here is a write up on the matter....
You were expecting a Link Gumbo this morning? The saga of The First Great Shady's Fisticuffs Caper of 2011 has taken some wild turns over the last few days and now that it appears we may have a slight break in developments, I think it's time we get everybody on the same page and update those who've missed out.

Before we begin, you'll notice that many of the links below go to work by Randy Rosetta on either TigerSportsDigest.com or his twitter feed. For many of the odd turns in this story, like the erroneous SportsNola report about Jefferson and other's being arrested, Rosetta has been the first one to call the BRPD and the attorneys to get official clarification. We dog certain reporters that we don't like around here often, so it's important that we also recognize great work when we see it.

What We Know

Thursday night, after the end of the 2nd full scrimmage of the fall, all LSU football players were accounted for in their rooms at a 10:30pm curfew. With the next day scheduled off, a large group of players decided to break curfew and some of them went to Shady's, a bar on East Boyd, just south of campus. Sometime in the early hours Friday, a driver who was trying to leave the parking lot honked his horn at a crowd of people in his way. At this point a fight broke out in the parking lot, leaving 4 victims. While EMS on the scene did look at their injuries, all 4 opted to transport themselves to nearby hospitals for treatment and they were all out of hospital later that day, though two of them are "still seeking medical attention." BRPD has confirmed that witnesses have told them that one of the victims was kicked in the head, but they have not yet determined if that actually happened. No video footage of the incident has surfaced yet.

Jordan Jefferson was first named a person of interest in the investigation on Friday. On Saturday, Les Miles held a brief press conference and said that the team as a whole had and would be disciplined for breaking curfew, and that while no suspensions had been given, he was waiting for BRPD's investigation to finish before moving forward. Late Saturday, BRPD contacted Jefferson, OL Chris Davenport, WR Jarvis Landry, and LB Josh Johns and asked them to come in on Monday for interviews. On Sunday morning, the 4 players retained the services of attorney Nathan Fisher, last seen representing Ryan Perrilloux during the Federal counterfeiting investigation in early 2007, and notified the BRPD that they would not be coming in for the interviews on Monday. BRPD says they rescheduled for Tuesday, but Fisher could not confirm this as of Sunday afternoon. The 4 victims have also retained an attorney, Michael Bienvenu, who told reporters that his clients intend to press charges.

What Is Rumored

WAFB, the Baton Rouge area CBS, reported accounts from "people who claim to have witnessed the incident" that the driver of the truck was pulled from his vehicle and that a separate victim who was kicked in the head was a Marine and the kicker was Jordan Jefferson. As of late Sunday, BRPD would not confirm any of this, other than that they had been told someone had been kicked in the head. None of the victims have been identified publicly.

While none of the players have commented, Jefferson's father John has told multiple reporters that his son was not involved in the incident and want's his name to be cleared. From the Times-Pic:

Jefferson's father, John Jefferson, said his son told him he left before the fight started and is upset at the perception he was involved. He said Jordan Jefferson told him several teammates have vouched for his innocence, unsolicited, to Miles. He said Jefferson was in his apartment when teammates called and asked him to join a group of players who had gone out.

"Jordan said he went over there for about 30 minutes in his jeans and slippers," John Jefferson said. "He said he saw an altercation about to happen and told the guys with him 'Let's roll.'

"I'm a little ticked at him that he went at all. He's the face of the team. All the coaches are saying the players who were there are coming to them and saying 'Jordan didn't even throw a punch,' and at one point Jordan was saying 'Y'all chill out,' and then he rolled out. He didn't want to have anything to do with it."

The father of OL T-Bob Hebert, Saint's Pro Bowl QB and radio host Bobby Hebert also released a comment defending his son on twitter.
Majority of the team skipped curfew and should be disciplined, but T-Bob had nothing to do with the fight and shouldn't be singled out..BS!


For now, it seems we are in a holding pattern. The BRPD seems fine with waiting to interview the 4 players on Tuesday, though that may change if new evidence surfaces. While the victims' attorney could file charges tomorrow, it's unknown at this point what their plans are.
The team meanwhile continues to practice as it has the last few days, probably a little worse for the wear. Strength coach Tommy Moffitt is the kind of guy who dreams of wind sprints in his sleep, and is no doubt relishing the next few weeks of extra "conditioning" the team will be doing. Other matters, like the ongoing worries about Russell Shepard's status for the first game and whether Mickey Johnson is ever going to get out of the NCAA clearing house will also continue to distract from preparations for Oregon, which becomes the main focus of practice from here on out.

I was going to end there, but I realize that last paragraph seems a little flippant in regard to the situation. Make no mistake, if Jefferson or any other player did in fact do what is being claimed, they should be suspended immediately and should not play against Oregon, maybe even longer. However, Miles and LSU are right to wait on doling out suspensions until more is known.
The hardcore tiger fan in me says that the fact that the “victims” have already obtain an attorney in order to pursue a civil suit before anyone charges have even been filed means that this whole ordeal is a revenge/money seeking venture…the lawyer in me (yes I am a lawyer…kind of) says that all parties are protecting their own interest (as they should) and the truth will come out after all of the facts are gathered. I only hope that the facts are in the players favor.
Jefferson's story seems waaaaay too convenient to me.
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Jefferson's story seems waaaaay too convenient to me.
You’re right….he should of just said “I was asleep” :lol:
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Bud Lee wrote:
Jefferson's story seems waaaaay too convenient to me.
You’re right….he should of just said “I was asleep” :lol:
Because curb stomping a vet and being a passenger in a speeding car are TOTALLY the same.
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karlhungis wrote:
Bud Lee wrote:
Jefferson's story seems waaaaay too convenient to me.
You’re right….he should of just said “I was asleep” :lol:
Because curb stomping a vet and being a passenger in a speeding car are TOTALLY the same.
And strangling your girlfriend. Oh yeah, that wasn't quite what it sounded like once the facts finally got out either. I am not sure why some Duck fans want to prematurely go after LSU on this thing.

On the other hand the LSU fans on that Tigerdropping? site sure were outraged that Thomas wasn't suspended for being in the speeding car so I guess if you're in to tit for tat it's all good.
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karlhungis wrote:
Bud Lee wrote:
Jefferson's story seems waaaaay too convenient to me.
You’re right….he should of just said “I was asleep” :lol:
Because curb stomping a vet and being a passenger in a speeding car are TOTALLY the same.
:lol: homer...it be you :lol:

First...it was a JOKE smalls...a JOKE...I have NO problem with DT playing. But if you believe he was asleep the whole time…well…insert any “you’re being foolish” saying here.

Second...the alleged victim was a guy fresh out of boot camp, not a vet. In addition to that, statement...they do not even know if someone actually was kicked in the head. IN any event there was NO curb stomping…see history X for definition of curb stomping.
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GrandpaDuck wrote:
karlhungis wrote:
Bud Lee wrote:
Jefferson's story seems waaaaay too convenient to me.
You’re right….he should of just said “I was asleep” :lol:
Because curb stomping a vet and being a passenger in a speeding car are TOTALLY the same.
And strangling your girlfriend. Oh yeah, that wasn't quite what it sounded like once the facts finally got out either. I am not sure why some Duck fans want to prematurely go after LSU on this thing.

On the other hand the LSU fans on that Tigerdropping? site sure were outraged that Thomas wasn't suspended for being in the speeding car so I guess if you're in to tit for tat it's all good.

I'm not going after LSU on this. I don't really care what happens. I'm just saying the accusation of being asleep in a speeding car is a far cry from the accusations Jefferson is facing.

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Bud Lee wrote:
karlhungis wrote:
Bud Lee wrote:
Jefferson's story seems waaaaay too convenient to me.
You’re right….he should of just said “I was asleep” :lol:
Because curb stomping a vet and being a passenger in a speeding car are TOTALLY the same.
:lol: homer...it be you :lol:

First...it was a JOKE smalls...a JOKE...I have NO problem with DT playing. But if you believe he was asleep the whole time…well…insert any “you’re being foolish” saying here.

Second...the alleged victim was a guy fresh out of boot camp, not a vet. In addition to that, statement...they do not even know if someone actually was kicked in the head. IN any event there was NO curb stomping…see history X for definition of curb stomping.
I am a homer. I do try to stay fairly balanced though.

I know it was a joke.

And yes, curb stomping is much worse than a friendly kick to the head when you are down.

Is it really that hard to believe that a guy would be sleeping in a car at 2 in the morning? That is a homerish assumption? Especially if they were stoned... I know I would be sleeping.
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I'm not going after LSU on this. I don't really care what happens. I'm just saying the accusation of being asleep in a speeding car is a far cry from the accusations Jefferson is facing.


I love how y’all keep saying he was just taking a nap nap while a buddy was speeding trying to get home and y’all don’t say “being a passenger in a vehicle going 118 miles per hour (what is that 50 over the limit?) while illegal narcotics are being consumed” Oh how we love to shed a positive light on the athletes that we love…myself included. :lol:
Is it gameday yet?
12 Hours 3 Days 33 Minutes
Is it really that hard to believe that a guy would be sleeping in a car at 2 in the morning? That is a homerish assumption? Especially if they were stoned... I know I would be sleeping.
Is it really hard to believe that some drunkards got in a fight with some athletes and simply threw out some big names on the team? Or maybe just some names that they saw earlier? After all, not only does Jefferson say he wasn’t there but also there are witnesses that say he had nothing to do with it. Look at the names originally given
by the “witnesses" ...they are not even the ones that are being talked about now…excluding JJ of course.
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Is it really hard to believe that some drunkards got in a fight with some athletes and simply threw out some big names on the team? Or maybe just some names that they saw earlier? After all, not only does Jefferson say he wasn’t there but also there are witnesses that say he had nothing to do with it. Look at the names originally given
by the “witnesses" ...they are not even the ones that are being talked about now…excluding JJ of course.
Last year we had a similar incident with our QB where some outlandish things were said, stealing items from a frat...etc, and we also had him saying that he wasn't even there and that there were witnesses who also said he was at a local bar at the time of the incident. As it turns out, he was full of crap.

I wonder if we will ever find out what really happened in this case. At least we found out the truth with Masoli. It was very generous of the SEC to give him a second chance though.
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It was very generous of the SEC to give him a second chance though.
The SEC should be rename Second chance row…I can think of 3..maybe 4 players that have gotten in trouble in one conference and then found their way in the SEC…does it bother me absolutely not because I can also name about a half of dozen players off the top of my head that got the boot from an SEC school and ended up somewhere else. Everybody fricks up and everybody deserves a second chance…at least in my opinion.
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Bud Lee wrote:
It was very generous of the SEC to give him a second chance though.
The SEC should be rename Second chance row…I can think of 3..maybe 4 players that have gotten in trouble in one conference and then found their way in the SEC…does it bother me absolutely not because I can also name about a half of dozen players off the top of my head that got the boot from an SEC school and ended up somewhere else. Everybody fricks up and everybody deserves a second chance…at least in my opinion.

Or a 3rd, or a 4th chance in some cases.

Hey, I love second chances. Bongterrio Smith was a beast for us after Tennessee booted him.
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Bud Lee wrote:
Jefferson's story seems waaaaay too convenient to me.
You’re right….he should of just said “I was asleep” :lol:
That was too convenient too. Almost as convenient as Masoli's story.
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I have to think that the comments on ESPN have to be the bottom of the barrel. It makes o-live look like a debate team.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/conversations/_/ ... yers-fight
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karlhungis wrote:I have to think that the comments on ESPN have to be the bottom of the barrel. It makes o-live look like a debate team.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/conversations/_/ ... yers-fight
I worry about our future as a nation every time I read the comments at the bottom of things like that, youtube vids, etc.

Back on topic…A local radio guy said that he heard from a trusted source that Jefferson did not take a snap today, if true he probably is not starting in the opening. That or his throwing hand is sore from the fight. :lol:
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