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karlhungis wrote:
vagusnerve wrote:I don't think Blackmon will be playing DAT's TZR position. He'll be a traditional WR, more like what Josh Huff is doing this year. Huff is awesome but he's been dropping so many balls and he had that injury dogging him all Fall.

Sumler, I suspect, will be used as more of deep threat WR. I don't think we have anyone right now that falls into the category.

Stanford looks like he can take over for LT... more of a TE/WR hybrid.

Next year we'll have a bunch of young guys at WR: Lyerla, French, Blackmon, Sumler, with Huff as the old man of the group (as a true junior!). They're gonna be really, really young.

KB will be the RB, with DAT as the TZR. We're gonna be young there too. Tra Carson, and maybe a true freshman backing up KB at RB. Wow. DAT will just play all over the field: WR, Slot, RB.

We'll be very talented and fast at the skill positions next year, but losing LMJ will hurt a lot. We won't have much experience at WR or RB.
Kenjon Barner doesn't equal "much experience" to you?
Not nearly as much as this season. Paulson, Tuinei, James=HUGE experience in big games. Take those guys off the field, and Barner, Huff and DAT are the only ones with legitimate experience even somewhat comparable to the first three. One of them will be a true sophomore, one a true junior and one with a similar role as LMJ. Two have fumbled in big games, one has shown concentration issues catching the football.
Didn't LMJ fumble in a pretty crucial situation against USC last week? Concentration issues...that can also apply to Tuinei who has been fairly inconsistent as well.
Yep, as well as the muffed punt against Stanford. Pales in comparison to the number of 200+ yard games he's had, crucial runs late in games or on 3rd downs. That's the difference between him and Barner IMO. He's a definitively better RB, but I definitely would agree that the team as a whole has been guilty of huge mistakes at big times. Tuinei, on the other hand, I remember being more consistent than Huff(who has seen more big plays squandered by drops than LT, IMO). The reason for that, I think, are all the quick outs and short routes he runs, designed to get him in space and make a guy miss. For the amout of 'experience' I've claimed Tuinei has, I can't stand him on the field to be honest. Has the guy ever, EVER made a play out of one of those quick out plays? He always gets brought down by the first guy after shifting back and forth trying to make a move. I'm hoping the new guy Stanford can develop into a more athletic versin of LT that gives the offense more options.
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Tuinei deserves a lot of praise, he has been our best receiver this season by far...
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roleplay3r1 wrote:
Phenom wrote:
roleplay3r1 wrote:
karlhungis wrote:
vagusnerve wrote:I don't think Blackmon will be playing DAT's TZR position. He'll be a traditional WR, more like what Josh Huff is doing this year. Huff is awesome but he's been dropping so many balls and he had that injury dogging him all Fall.

Sumler, I suspect, will be used as more of deep threat WR. I don't think we have anyone right now that falls into the category.

Stanford looks like he can take over for LT... more of a TE/WR hybrid.

Next year we'll have a bunch of young guys at WR: Lyerla, French, Blackmon, Sumler, with Huff as the old man of the group (as a true junior!). They're gonna be really, really young.

KB will be the RB, with DAT as the TZR. We're gonna be young there too. Tra Carson, and maybe a true freshman backing up KB at RB. Wow. DAT will just play all over the field: WR, Slot, RB.

We'll be very talented and fast at the skill positions next year, but losing LMJ will hurt a lot. We won't have much experience at WR or RB.
Kenjon Barner doesn't equal "much experience" to you?
Not nearly as much as this season. Paulson, Tuinei, James=HUGE experience in big games. Take those guys off the field, and Barner, Huff and DAT are the only ones with legitimate experience even somewhat comparable to the first three. One of them will be a true sophomore, one a true junior and one with a similar role as LMJ. Two have fumbled in big games, one has shown concentration issues catching the football.
Didn't LMJ fumble in a pretty crucial situation against USC last week? Concentration issues...that can also apply to Tuinei who has been fairly inconsistent as well.
Yep, as well as the muffed punt against Stanford. Pales in comparison to the number of 200+ yard games he's had, crucial runs late in games or on 3rd downs. That's the difference between him and Barner IMO. He's a definitively better RB, but I definitely would agree that the team as a whole has been guilty of huge mistakes at big times. Tuinei, on the other hand, I remember being more consistent than Huff(who has seen more big plays squandered by drops than LT, IMO). The reason for that, I think, are all the quick outs and short routes he runs, designed to get him in space and make a guy miss. For the amout of 'experience' I've claimed Tuinei has, I can't stand him on the field to be honest. Has the guy ever, EVER made a play out of one of those quick out plays He always gets brought down by the first guy after shifting back and forth trying to make a move. I'm hoping the new guy Stanford can develop into a more athletic versin of LT that gives the offense more options.
He has made a few guys miss, but I hate when he does that. Look at the Washington game. He makes a catch on 2nd down, and if he does one head fake and just dives (let alone drive for some yards) he gets the first down. Instead he did about four jukes and tried to ole' the defender and got the ball stripped and hit backwards. Luckily it went out of bounds, but lost yards. Went from, at worst, 3rd and 2 to a 3rd and 9. Missed field goal. I like him 5 yard stop routs or farther down the field. Or blocking :D
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TheMaehlMan wrote:Tuinei deserves a lot of praise, he has been our best receiver this season by far...
That's not saying much.
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Phenom wrote: That's not saying much.
Well, where would we be without him? Besides Paulson, who else would we look to in the redzone as a receiving weapon? Who else would be a chain mover? Of course it would be better to have Tuinei in a complimentary role, but he's doing just fine considering what we are asking from him.

It's a damn shame that Diante Jackson never went to class, because things might look a bit different if he was still around..
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Maybe I'm overstating this but I think it's huge that we just snagged a recruit out of Ohio State's backyard. Getting one from the west coast isn't as big of a deal IMO, but getting a kid from Ohio, especially one with his talent level says something. As has been said earlier in this thread, he's obviously got some skills and upside...he was offered by everyone so us getting him is big.
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Ya I think LT has been kinda underrated this year, he has been a good leader for the young wr's. Hopefully Huff has a big year next year once he gets back to 100% in the offseason.
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Great Kid and looks forward to getting to Oregon! Welcome to Duck family. I tell you under coach Rad's strength and conditioning barring health this guy is going to be something to watch! good hands and speed and length I see him getting more YAC then LT.
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any concerns about a potential urban meyer hire at tOSU that might pull Stanford back to Ohio? Similar offense, closer to home?
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The midwest guy on scout claims aOSU is full at WR(I think he's just mad he left for the west coast). Also Washington mentioned, when he announced, that he is told Meyer is a lock to be the next hc. So Stanford knew this when he committed to us.
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buckmarkduck wrote:The midwest guy on scout claims aOSU is full at WR(I think he's just mad he left for the west coast). Also Washington mentioned, when he announced, that he is told Meyer is a lock to be the next hc. So Stanford knew this when he committed to us.
I don't think it is a lock that Urban takes the job unless we hear a sudden change of stance from the AD about self-imposed sanctions and not going to a bowl game this season. Urban has said he is researching and looking into what the penalties will be. That's why you take the punishment now so that a guy of Urban's caliber can see that some of those sanctions will occur before he takes over the team.
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TheMaehlMan wrote:Tuinei deserves a lot of praise, he has been our best receiver this season by far...
100% agree
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