bruce Barron gone too

[Phalanx]

I think you might be overreacting a little bit, but I guess we'll see. With Sim here and Joseph coming, I don't think there will be a problem this year. Next year, they will be young at the position, but I think that was going to be the case anyway. A JC two-guard would put the classes about right.

[gogreen55]

Are you really trying to tell me Altman can't recruit kids for his own system?

Are you really asking me this when you said yourself in this very thread "I think Altman needs to do some more homework on these kids... But maybe he did and we are just that desperate?"

Your incredulous question is pretty funny after that statement, but if you really want me to answer, here you go. Every coach in every sport has made recruiting mistakes at one time or another. The reason for this is because no matter how much tape they watch, there are always some surprises (good and bad) when you actually start working with these kids up close and personal on a daily basis. Ask Chip, who has stated this several times.

Look, I am not saying that everything is fine and the Ducks have nothing to worry about next season. Obviously the depth on the perimeter isn't going to be what the coaches were expecting. I just feel Jabari Brown is the disappointing part of all this, not so much Barron. The Ducks' success, or lack of success, next season was never hinging on whether or not Bruce Barron decided to stay or go.

[GrandpaDuck]

Well Kenjon Barner and Tra Carson will have some time on their hands after New Years if they really need some walk-on bodies for practice later in the year.

[UOducksTK1]

What a joke..

[Boom]

Are you really trying to tell me Altman can't recruit kids for his own system?

Are you really asking me this when you said yourself in this very thread "I think Altman needs to do some more homework on these kids... But maybe he did and we are just that desperate?"

Your incredulous question is pretty funny after that statement, but if you really want me to answer, here you go. Every coach in every sport has made recruiting mistakes at one time or another. The reason for this is because no matter how much tape they watch, there are always some surprises (good and bad) when you actually start working with these kids up close and personal on a daily basis. Ask Chip, who has stated this several times.

Look, I am not saying that everything is fine and the Ducks have nothing to worry about next season. Obviously the depth on the perimeter isn't going to be what the coaches were expecting. I just feel Jabari Brown is the disappointing part of all this, not so much Barron. The Ducks' success, or lack of success, next season was never hinging on whether or not Bruce Barron decided to stay or go.

ummmm no... The homework statement was a reference to their character... not their play/fit.

I have full confidence that Altman recruited Bruce Barron because he was a fit for his "system".

The fact that you've only seen 20 minutes of Barron on the court and then claim that he wasn't any good or wasn't a fit for his "system" is telling.

Losing both players is a disappointment... but I think it's funny that you're more concerned about losing a guy who was more concerned about looking cool than playing hard (Jabari). At least Barron competed with energy when he was out there.

[oregontrack]

So far, I've yet to see anything special with Kingma, but that probably has more to due with Sim playing major minutes ahead of him and being a FR.

i would agree, but we recruited him as a one-trick pony and when his shot isn't falling he tends to disappear. kind of reminds me of james davis so far: davis had a very forgetful freshman year, playing under 10 mpg and shooting a fairly pathetic % from the field and beyond the arc. there was a lot of, 'wow, we recruited him for what...?' talk, but of course he got comfortable in the following offseason and became a deadly outside shooter the next three years. kingma's shot is too good to stay hidden for long.

[greenyellow]

So far, I've yet to see anything special with Kingma, but that probably has more to due with Sim playing major minutes ahead of him and being a FR.

i would agree, but we recruited him as a one-trick pony and when his shot isn't falling he tends to disappear. kind of reminds me of james davis so far: davis had a very forgetful freshman year, playing under 10 mpg and shooting a fairly pathetic % from the field and beyond the arc. there was a lot of, 'wow, we recruited him for what...?' talk, but of course he got comfortable in the following offseason and became a deadly outside shooter the next three years. kingma's shot is too good to stay hidden for long.

James Davis is really who I thought of when I've seen him play. Kind of a spot-up shooter that doesn't really seem to drive or create shots off the dribble. If he can turn out to be like JD was his last three years, then Altman will have a decent role player. Now they have to find a go-to scorer since they don't seem to have someone they can count on every game.