Big rumor out there about ASU

jimmy12 · Post by **jimmy12** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:05 pm

that Justin Wilcox is the #1 target for ASU. The secondary rumor, which has some serious Duck recruiting implications, is that Tosh Lupoi is who Wilcox will bring in to be the DC.
In my opinion, this would be fantastic for the Ducks. ASU is a mess. Who knows if Tosh can coach? Can he be a successful DC? Who knows is Wilcox can coach? Too many questions.

Duck07 · Post by **Duck07** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:16 pm

jimmy12 wrote:that Justin Wilcox is the #1 target for ASU. The secondary rumor, which has some serious Duck recruiting implications, is that Tosh Lupoi is who Wilcox will bring in to be the DC.
In my opinion, this would be fantastic for the Ducks. ASU is a mess. Who knows if Tosh can coach? Can he be a successful DC? Who knows is Wilcox can coach? Too many questions.

Well, in college we know that a sub-par coach looks great if he is a great recruiter. But really, why won't ASU take NA and we'll take our O-Duck, Josh?

buckmarkduck · Post by **buckmarkduck** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:35 pm

I hope they take tosh, the guy is a absolute joke of a coach, but a hell of a salesman. If you think UW's d is Swiss cheese, just wait till you get a load of a d under Tosh.

GrandpaDuck · Post by **GrandpaDuck** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:42 pm

Tosh would probably be the DC in name only. Collect the big bucks for DC title to basically recruit while JW actually runs the defense. The offensive coordinator would then be given pretty much free reign to run the offense (though most defensive oriented HCs insist their offenses run the ball, control the clock and don't gamble away field position).

buckmarkduck · Post by **buckmarkduck** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:43 pm

Justin may be a DC, but his first 3 years at UO he was a QB.

karlhungis · Post by **karlhungis** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:57 pm

This rumor has come up before but it didn't happen. I'm not holding my breath on this one.

duckydoug · Post by **duckydoug** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:25 pm

buckmarkduck wrote:I hope they take tosh, the guy is a absolute joke of a coach, but a hell of a salesman. If you think UW's d is Swiss cheese, just wait till you get a load of a d under Tosh.

where are you getting that from? Tosh is a very good DL coach. i dont know if we would be a good Dc but i wouldnt call him a joke of a coach.

TheMaehlMan · Post by **TheMaehlMan** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:38 pm

duckydoug wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:I hope they take tosh, the guy is a absolute joke of a coach, but a hell of a salesman. If you think UW's d is Swiss cheese, just wait till you get a load of a d under Tosh.
where are you getting that from? Tosh is a very good DL coach. i dont know if we would be a good Dc but i wouldnt call him a joke of a coach.

Tosh's actually coaching definitely deserves some criticism. Most agree that Clancy Pendergast is the real coach, and that Tosh is the talent collector..

uodux1212 · Post by **uodux1212** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:54 pm

TheMaehlMan wrote:
duckydoug wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:I hope they take tosh, the guy is a absolute joke of a coach, but a hell of a salesman. If you think UW's d is Swiss cheese, just wait till you get a load of a d under Tosh.
where are you getting that from? Tosh is a very good DL coach. i dont know if we would be a good Dc but i wouldnt call him a joke of a coach.
Tosh's actually coaching definitely deserves some criticism. Most agree that Clancy Pendergast is the real coach, and that Tosh is the SCUBA instructor..

FIFY

duckydoug · Post by **duckydoug** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:03 pm

TheMaehlMan wrote:
duckydoug wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:I hope they take tosh, the guy is a absolute joke of a coach, but a hell of a salesman. If you think UW's d is Swiss cheese, just wait till you get a load of a d under Tosh.
where are you getting that from? Tosh is a very good DL coach. i dont know if we would be a good Dc but i wouldnt call him a joke of a coach.
Tosh's actually coaching definitely deserves some criticism. Most agree that Clancy Pendergast is the real coach, and that Tosh is the talent collector..

Well, Pendergast is the DC and Lupoi is just like any other DL Coach. He works with the DL during practice and rotates them in and out during games. I dont know how much he weighs into the playcalling but his unit has been solid since before pendgast got there and has produced two 1st D-lineman the last two years.

woundedknees · Post by **woundedknees** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:06 pm

Whether that's by coaching up, or by decent recruiting is debatable.

duckydoug · Post by **duckydoug** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:49 pm

woundedknees wrote:Whether that's by coaching up, or by decent recruiting is debatable.

Lupoi has only been killing it on the recruiting trail the last two classes. most of the guys they landed last year didnt play much. dude is a good coach and a damn good recruiter, gotta give credit where credit is due even if he is a thorn.

buckmarkduck · Post by **buckmarkduck** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:59 pm

Tosh has been landing guys we only wish we could get for 4 years now. Guess what? None of them have been even close to what they were supposed to be coming out of HS.

wheaton4prez · Post by **wheaton4prez** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:55 am

Wilcox would be an outstanding hire, imo. The Tosh thing, if Wilcox turns out to be as good of an HC as I think he will, will be similar to Kelly and Helfrich.

MFRDuckFan · Post by **MFRDuckFan** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:43 am

My only beef with Wilcox is his lack of discipline of his players on the field. Dirty play seems to be encouraged and that's unfortunate.

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