Stetson Bair

[woundedknees]

sounds like an ace FG blocking team...

[greenyellow]

HAHAHA, could you immagine our DL if we got all these guys.....

Cody Carriger (6'7"), Arik Armstead (6'8"), Stetzon Bair (6'9"), DeForrest Buckner (6'7")

lol

I bet Dana Altman would be at every practice to get at least one out for basketball.

[Duck07]

HAHAHA, could you immagine our DL if we got all these guys.....

Cody Carriger (6'7"), Arik Armstead (6'8"), Stetzon Bair (6'9"), DeForrest Buckner (6'7")

lol

Yea, lots of hands to the face penalties. Being that tall is not an advantage at DT, it can be at DE but leverage wins every time and tall guys in football have leverage issues. I'm not writing any of these guys off by any means based on their height, but it will be something they have to work hard at and it was something that we saw with Brandon quite a bit as well.

[greenyellow]

HAHAHA, could you immagine our DL if we got all these guys.....

Cody Carriger (6'7"), Arik Armstead (6'8"), Stetzon Bair (6'9"), DeForrest Buckner (6'7")

lol

Yea, lots of hands to the face penalties. Being that tall is not an advantage at DT, it can be at DE but leverage wins every time and tall guys in football have leverage issues. I'm not writing any of these guys off by any means based on their height, but it will be something they have to work hard at and it was something that we saw with Brandon quite a bit as well.

Buckner and Carriger are looking to be DEs so their height is not that big of a deal. It will be with Armstead and Bair since they are supposedly being recruited as DTs.

[Duck07]

I thought this was an interesting look at BYU/LDS recruits during today's Ask A Duck: Mark Asper

Q: As a Mormon, how did you end up at Oregon rather than BYU?— @c_drew

A: BYU blew it. They dropped the ball. (Laughs) At first they didn’t offer me a scholarship until somebody else did. They were like, “Ah, you’re a big LDS kid, you’ll just walk on.” As soon as Oregon and some other schools showed interest, they were like, “Hey, yeah, we want you too!” Then they said they needed to know right away, but I said I hadn’t figured it all out yet, and so they said they were going to give the scholarship to somebody else. Then they called me back, and visited my high school the next day, and basically told me I’d be a bad Mormon if I didn’t go to BYU. I was like, “Jeez, great, that really makes me want to come!” They just blew it. They did a terrible job of recruiting me. And Oregon didn’t. Oregon did a great job.

We have had quite a lot of members of the Mormon church on the football team that I can remember just in this last decade and it has certainly had a major effect on our roster.

[maxduck]

HAHAHA, could you immagine our DL if we got all these guys.....

Cody Carriger (6'7"), Arik Armstead (6'8"), Stetzon Bair (6'9"), DeForrest Buckner (6'7")

lol

Yea, lots of hands to the face penalties. Being that tall is not an advantage at DT, it can be at DE but leverage wins every time and tall guys in football have leverage issues. I'm not writing any of these guys off by any means based on their height, but it will be something they have to work hard at and it was something that we saw with Brandon quite a bit as well.

On the other hand last year Bair was 3rd on the team (behind Cliff Harris and John Boyett) on pass break ups with 8, also tied for 3rd with Talmadge Jackson in passes defended, again with 8. Bair's numbers for 2010 were about double what our entire starting D-line produced this season. Maybe it's worth a couple inadvertent penalties.

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml ... =204990164

[Duck07]

HAHAHA, could you immagine our DL if we got all these guys.....

Cody Carriger (6'7"), Arik Armstead (6'8"), Stetzon Bair (6'9"), DeForrest Buckner (6'7")

lol

Yea, lots of hands to the face penalties. Being that tall is not an advantage at DT, it can be at DE but leverage wins every time and tall guys in football have leverage issues. I'm not writing any of these guys off by any means based on their height, but it will be something they have to work hard at and it was something that we saw with Brandon quite a bit as well.

On the other hand last year Bair was 3rd on the team (behind Cliff Harris and John Boyett) on pass break ups with 8, also tied for 3rd with Talmadge Jackson in passes defended, again with 8. Bair's numbers for 2010 were about double what our entire starting D-line produced this season. Maybe it's worth a couple inadvertent penalties.

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml ... =204990164

It's primarily a leverage issue which I find to be vastly more important play after play than the occasional PBU.

[L Perry]

HAHAHA, could you immagine our DL if we got all these guys.....

Cody Carriger (6'7"), Arik Armstead (6'8"), Stetzon Bair (6'9"), DeForrest Buckner (6'7")

lol

Yea, lots of hands to the face penalties. Being that tall is not an advantage at DT, it can be at DE but leverage wins every time and tall guys in football have leverage issues. I'm not writing any of these guys off by any means based on their height, but it will be something they have to work hard at and it was something that we saw with Brandon quite a bit as well.

On the other hand last year Bair was 3rd on the team (behind Cliff Harris and John Boyett) on pass break ups with 8, also tied for 3rd with Talmadge Jackson in passes defended, again with 8. Bair's numbers for 2010 were about double what our entire starting D-line produced this season. Maybe it's worth a couple inadvertent penalties.

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml ... =204990164

It's primarily a leverage issue which I find to be vastly more important play after play than the occasional PBU.

Well that theory is a crock! Brandon did not get an inordinate amount of penalties for hands to the face. As well as the stats listed above, Brandon also led the team in tackles for loss at 16. Which usually is indicitive of having the upper hand when it comes to leverage.

[Duffman57]

HAHAHA, could you immagine our DL if we got all these guys.....

Cody Carriger (6'7"), Arik Armstead (6'8"), Stetzon Bair (6'9"), DeForrest Buckner (6'7")

lol

Yea, lots of hands to the face penalties. Being that tall is not an advantage at DT, it can be at DE but leverage wins every time and tall guys in football have leverage issues. I'm not writing any of these guys off by any means based on their height, but it will be something they have to work hard at and it was something that we saw with Brandon quite a bit as well.

On the other hand last year Bair was 3rd on the team (behind Cliff Harris and John Boyett) on pass break ups with 8, also tied for 3rd with Talmadge Jackson in passes defended, again with 8. Bair's numbers for 2010 were about double what our entire starting D-line produced this season. Maybe it's worth a couple inadvertent penalties.

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml ... =204990164

It's primarily a leverage issue which I find to be vastly more important play after play than the occasional PBU.

Yes, but while its HARD, its not impossible to gain leverage as such a tall guy. But from what i've seen of highlights of Bair (Stetzon) is that he gets insanely low for such a big guy, as does Armsead. Thats how he's able to blow guys off the ball. So i have high hopes for these guys, even if they are incredibly tall at DT.

[RanDux]

Bair now rated as a 3 star by Scout.

[ducksrock]

Granted, he played DE mostly, if I remember correctly,.......but dont tell Ed "Too Tall" Jones that he was too tall to play on the DL.....I think he would beg to differ and his stats would tend to back him up...I believe he was 6'9" give or take an inch....
The inside DL positions?..... I spose time will tell as to his leverage abilities....

But, I do know one thing for sure.....I love the height and those damn long arms that can knock down most anything thrown in the immediate vicinity....That was the one facet of Brandon Bairs game that made him such a joy to watch....

[JustisM]

I thought this was an interesting look at BYU/LDS recruits during today's Ask A Duck: Mark Asper

Q: As a Mormon, how did you end up at Oregon rather than BYU?— @c_drew

A: BYU blew it. They dropped the ball. (Laughs) At first they didn’t offer me a scholarship until somebody else did. They were like, “Ah, you’re a big LDS kid, you’ll just walk on.” As soon as Oregon and some other schools showed interest, they were like, “Hey, yeah, we want you too!” Then they said they needed to know right away, but I said I hadn’t figured it all out yet, and so they said they were going to give the scholarship to somebody else. Then they called me back, and visited my high school the next day, and basically told me I’d be a bad Mormon if I didn’t go to BYU. I was like, “Jeez, great, that really makes me want to come!” They just blew it. They did a terrible job of recruiting me. And Oregon didn’t. Oregon did a great job.

We have had quite a lot of members of the Mormon church on the football team that I can remember just in this last decade and it has certainly had a major effect on our roster.

Yeah I was kinda blown away when I read that too. Glad that they found a place where they don't feel like that down in Eugene.

[maxduck]

Bair visited Utah this weekend.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsutahs ... n.html.csp

[GrantDuck]

Not buying the leverage comments at all...It plays a part, but if a guy's a good enough athlete and can get low, the extra length in the arms is an advantage for both batting passes and disengaging from blockers.

[bellsduck]

Personally, I'd rather have a space eater that takes up two blockers and fills a hole that a RB can't run through. There's about 30 runs a game and about 5 short passes a game that a DL could knock down.