California @ Oregon (Sunday)

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the offense flows well enough with sim and joseph running things. neither might be a pure point, but the defense has to respect them both. it's 4-on-5 with loyd out there. it's just incredible how things... just... stop... when he comes in.

indeed, artis needs to get here, and fast.
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Feel bad for Olu. He is the best finisher on the team but because Oregon doesn't have a point guard who can create, Olu is forced to take mid-range jumpshots. Joseph is really the only guy on the team who is really good at creating his own shot. The problem is that he's been seeing a lot of double teams and has been guarded by Cal's best defender (Gutierrez). Singler is a fantastic #2 option.

I'm expecting big improvements from EJ and Woods next year due to Artis' presence.
“If everybody in this room just want to be real with themselves, this game could have went either way,” he said. “We turned the ball over a lot. We beat ourself. Just be real with yourself right now. We beat ourself.”
-Jameis Winston after Oregon's decisive 59-20 victory over Florida State in the Rose Bowl
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Lloyd seems to get worse each game. His every once in awhile great plays don't happen anymore so his only value is to the other team. And then there's Emory. I don't think I've seen him make a shot all season. But that doesnt stop him from jacking every 3 he sees.
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well, this one's long over. cal can do no wrong.

maybe we'll put two complete games back-to-back one of these days.
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Still don't understand why Bruce Barron transferred. The guy definitely would have played some minutes this year. Oregon definitely could have used his defense and athleticism.
“If everybody in this room just want to be real with themselves, this game could have went either way,” he said. “We turned the ball over a lot. We beat ourself. Just be real with yourself right now. We beat ourself.”
-Jameis Winston after Oregon's decisive 59-20 victory over Florida State in the Rose Bowl
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^ absolutely. we're going to have to try to win with defense next year, he would have helped out a lot. loved the hustle in his brief stint here...

i don't mind emory, at all. he's not producing big numbers, but he plays within the offense and doesn't really do anything to hurt us. and his ceiling is still pretty high. he's obviously deferring to others right now, i think he'll do well for us next year. he's shooting 33% from deep, nothing to write home over but not exactly the worst shooting display from deep we've ever seen. i'm sure you've hit him see something along the way.
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oregontrack wrote:^ absolutely. we're going to have to try to win with defense next year, he would have helped out a lot. loved the hustle in his brief stint here...

i don't mind emory, at all. he's not producing big numbers, but he plays within the offense and doesn't really do anything to hurt us. and his ceiling is still pretty high. he's obviously deferring to others right now, i think he'll do well for us next year. he's shooting 33% from deep, nothing to write home over but not exactly the worst shooting display from deep we've ever seen. i'm sure you've hit him see something along the way.
Ya, I like Emory. Good defensive potential, pretty good rebounder, outstanding athlete. Emory is another guy who is a finisher who needs to play with a good PG. He can't really create for himself, but plays within the offense.

And just as I type this...nasty dunk by Emory.
“If everybody in this room just want to be real with themselves, this game could have went either way,” he said. “We turned the ball over a lot. We beat ourself. Just be real with yourself right now. We beat ourself.”
-Jameis Winston after Oregon's decisive 59-20 victory over Florida State in the Rose Bowl
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This team is frustrating. Look good, then bad. Cal is good, but Oregon didn't look good all game. I'm really tired of Loyd. He has to be one of the worst players in the pac-12.
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[quote="uostudent"]Still don't understand why Bruce Barron transferred. The guy definitely would have played some minutes this year. Oregon definitely could have used his defense and athleticism.[/quote


Because he is a baby, and had to leave just because his buddy Jabari Brown left.
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Pretty embarrassing to get blown out like this at home. Cal is probably the best defensive team that Oregon has played this year.

Cal basketball is the polar opposite of their football program. Montgomery is a fantastic x's and o's guy who coaches up 3 star recruits.

The one piece of good news that came out today is that Anthony Bennett has Oregon in his top 5.
“If everybody in this room just want to be real with themselves, this game could have went either way,” he said. “We turned the ball over a lot. We beat ourself. Just be real with yourself right now. We beat ourself.”
-Jameis Winston after Oregon's decisive 59-20 victory over Florida State in the Rose Bowl
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Yeah I like Emory & think he will be really good at some point, hopefully zoned than later. Just seems like everyctime I tune in he's bricking a 3. I had no idea he was shooting 33% from 3, I woulda thougt it was in the teens. I take it all back then ha.

And thats really good news about Bennett. Hopefully Dana can close the deal, there's some good programs we're going against.
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dthomas=ddixon wrote:Lloyd seems to get worse each game. His every once in awhile great plays don't happen anymore so his only value is to the other team. And then there's Emory. I don't think I've seen him make a shot all season. But that doesnt stop him from jacking every 3 he sees.
Emory is terrible. It would be really nice to have one more offensive scorer. This is where I was hoping Jabari Brown would chip in. Kingma is way too raw right now to be that guy. And Emory and Lloyd won't contribute offensively (In fact, Emory won't contribute at all imo).

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i guess i would say to you the same thing i always told you about garrett sim: just because a kid isn't contributing right away doesn't mean we should make a habit of writing them off for good. and that's particularly true for junior college kids.

he's playing limited minutes behind two of our best players and he's clearly being coached to defer to others unless there's an open shot. it's not a perfect analogy, because joseph played a lot more minutes his junior year out of necessity, but recall junior andre joseph, the timid off-guard who watched pac-10 mvp luke ridnour dominate the ball, and then recall senior andre joseph, the assertive scorer who played a solid second fiddle to luke jackson. same dude, two different roles in the offense after other players around him left. we lose a lot after this year, emory's role in the offense will change.
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