Oregon @ Cal (Thursday)

[gregspechtismyhero]

Lots of negative posts on this, I'm kinda surprised. Honestly, with the rag tag team we have that was an awesome performance from them. Yes, that ended our chances of NCAA life, but I didn't think we had any anyway before this game. That being said, I'm so excited about this team moving forward. We're returning a lot of talent, and an NIT birth is awesome considering last year we had to pay our way into a postseason. I had no hope going into the year, but DA and these players have given me hope for the future. As long as we don't get any more Jabari's our basketball team has a bright future (knock on wood)

[OregonFan4Life]

Unfortunately I missed the second half, but I do know that turnovers killed this team. Watched it on Gamecast on my phone, and at one point Oregon had like a 2 or 4 point lead with around 3 minutes to go, and I saw three straight turnovers. Not sure what kind of turnovers they were, but again, turnovers should not happen in that sort of situation. Was it just sloppy play? Were they the type of turnovers that a PG would help with? I'm not a big Sim hater or anything, but I really don't believe this guy should play during crunch time. I feel like in a lot of big losses over the past couple of years, Sim had a huge turnover late in the game.

[Brophdog88]

Cal is the top team in the Pac 12, and we just about beat them on the road, yes, we lost earlier this year at home, but they've lost depth, and we've improved. This team is capable of winning the Pac 12 tournament, whether thats likely is a whole different argument (its not)

[greenyellow]

Unfortunately I missed the second half, but I do know that turnovers killed this team. Watched it on Gamecast on my phone, and at one point Oregon had like a 2 or 4 point lead with around 3 minutes to go, and I saw three straight turnovers. Not sure what kind of turnovers they were, but again, turnovers should not happen in that sort of situation. Was it just sloppy play? Were they the type of turnovers that a PG would help with? I'm not a big Sim hater or anything, but I really don't believe this guy should play during crunch time. I feel like in a lot of big losses over the past couple of years, Sim had a huge turnover late in the game.

The turnovers they were having late in the game were due to Singler driving out of control or into traffic and then having to force a pass and Sim making some lazy passes to Woods and Joseph near the high post.

[duckfan22]

Turn overs turn overs. You cant have that many against a good team
in their house and expect to win. The ducks did really well getting ball to
post and wings. Cal could not stop Oregon's offense. But down the stretch
to many guys trying to do it all them selves. The ducks have played so much
better this year then i expected. I'm proud of this team. I love the style they
play and the passion they play with. Now we need to got Stanford and win,
I think this team can win the pac-12 tourney if they play as a team and cut
down on the turnovers..

[MerDuck]

Lots of negative posts on this, I'm kinda surprised. Honestly, with the rag tag team we have that was an awesome performance from them. Yes, that ended our chances of NCAA life, but I didn't think we had any anyway before this game. That being said, I'm so excited about this team moving forward. We're returning a lot of talent, and an NIT birth is awesome considering last year we had to pay our way into a postseason. I had no hope going into the year, but DA and these players have given me hope for the future. As long as we don't get any more Jabari's our basketball team has a bright future (knock on wood)

I think that's the problem. I feel bad about my negative posts last night, but I was just so damn frustrated because for some reason I put this team up on a pedestal that it didn't belong on. We have a group of players that are all good, but they still don't play as a team enough.. I think far too many people had more than reasonable expectations (including me) and this lead to all of the negativity. If we all expected them to not make the tourney and end up in the NIT then we would probably sound more level headed.

Cal is the top team in the Pac 12, and we just about beat them on the road, yes, we lost earlier this year at home, but they've lost depth, and we've improved. This team is capable of winning the Pac 12 tournament, whether thats likely is a whole different argument (its not)

Agreed.

[UOducksTK1]

Just watched the highlights, so many clutch shots and highlight dunks. If you take out a few of those 22 turnovers, Ducks win.

Having 8 players with 2 turnovers or more is really bad.

[jsfduck]

I thought it was a heck of a game and very, VERY entertaining. Is it frustraiting we lost? of course and as others have mentioned the turnovers are a large reason why. However the Ducks played a great game and I was proud of this young team for fighting and almost taking out the pac-12's top team.
Still a ways to go in this season and a lot can happen.

My jaw still hurts after seeing some of the highlight dunks and big time shots!

[oregontrack]

man, when guttierez picked up loyd on the perimeter loyd might as well have pulled down his shorts and bent over. that was ugly. there were a couple turnovers that, for whatever reason, were not attributed to him. but that was bad.

olu leads the free world in phantom fouls. 5/6 from the floor = great! 12 minutes, 4 fouls = bad! he can be aggressive, but he doesn't do have the stuff he's whistled for.

[AutzenMember]

Once Gutierrez returned to the game with 4 fouls, it seemed he could do no wrong in the official's eyes. I counted 4-5 times when he should have been whistled but wasn't. Reaching, grabbing, swatting, charging, he was playing like he had one foul, not four, and got away with it. Extremely frustrating...especially when the Ducks needed a break like that with how turnover-happy they were.

I agree that this was a roller coaster ride to watch...sweet dunks and Joseph miracle threes, to sloppy turnovers and swallowed whistles.

I still think this team has a chance to make a run in the P12 tourney (just not sure if my heart can handle watching it!). I haven't seen a team in the conference they CAN'T beat if they put it together. It's a must that they finish in the top 4 tho...4 games in 4 nights will be too much.

[duckfan22]

I still think this team has a chance to make a run in the P12 tourney (just not sure if my heart can handle watching it!). I haven't seen a team in the conference they CAN'T beat if they put it together. It's a must that they finish in the top 4 tho...4 games in 4 nights will be too much.

It's amazing that this team is where they are. I think people thought they might be decent
with a shot. This is a fun team to watch. Can you imagine this team with a true blue
point guard? Sim does ok, he is really a 2 guard, Lloyd i just don't know what happened to
him.

[Elduderino]

man, when guttierez picked up loyd on the perimeter loyd might as well have pulled down his shorts and bent over. that was ugly. there were a couple turnovers that, for whatever reason, were not attributed to him. but that was bad.

olu leads the free world in phantom fouls. 5/6 from the floor = great! 12 minutes, 4 fouls = bad! he can be aggressive, but he doesn't do have the stuff he's whistled for.

Agree on all of this. The one Lloyd turnover toward the end of the game where he just got all riled up and totally lost control was awful. Singler and Sim had some uncharacteristic turnovers that really hurt in the last few minutes.

Olu, man, what the hell is up with that headbutt? I don't understand why he has to run into dudes after every made shot. I thought poor Tony Woods was getting robbed on some of those late fouls. Dude can't do much else but be straight up, guys are initiating contact with him and getting the calll......that's rough.

Oh well, amazing we were in it like that with 22 turnovers.

[dthomas=ddixon]

Obviously WE lost this game but the refs in this conference just about ruin every game. On the road in a close game you know that they will take over the game & you will practically havve to out score the home team 2-1 to win. It's so obvious watching the game how the refs TOTALLY change how they're calling the game as soon as it hits crunch time. Cal couldn't foul us no matter what they did & they got a call on the other end every time they were touched. It's a joke. And until something done about the refs this conference will continue to be a joke.

[woundedknees]

Orego missed plenty of opportunities throughout the game, especially when Ca started out stone cold for the first few minutes of the game... The technicals were questionable, but the foul that cost Oregon the game at Colorado bothered me a lot more.

[Boom]

Lots of negative posts on this, I'm kinda surprised. Honestly, with the rag tag team we have that was an awesome performance from them. Yes, that ended our chances of NCAA life, but I didn't think we had any anyway before this game. That being said, I'm so excited about this team moving forward. We're returning a lot of talent, and an NIT birth is awesome considering last year we had to pay our way into a postseason. I had no hope going into the year, but DA and these players have given me hope for the future. As long as we don't get any more Jabari's our basketball team has a bright future (knock on wood)

I kind of have the opposite opinion.

Emory/Woods/Singler will make a solid frontcourt But I'm not sure how I feel about a Loyd/Artis/Kingma backcourt next season.

I had very low expectations for this season... At the start of the year I had no idea who Devoe Joseph was or how good he was going to be. Now I would rank him up with Fred Jones as one of the best SG's I've seen play for the Ducks. Currently I don't see a replacement for Joseph, Sim, & Nared on the roster. Kuemper could probably replace Jacobs minutes just fine... But I think Altman is going to have to score another round of JC/transfer type players to be competitive again next year.


I still think this this team has a solid shot at winning the Pac12 tourney though.