Say it isn't so, Beavis!

[woundedknees]

Craig Robiinson on the list for the Illinois job?

March 12:

http://kevinhampton.mvourtown.com/2012/ ... -illinois/

"Coach Craig Robinson has been mentioned in connection with the open head coach position at University of Illinois."

“I’m sure Illinois is looking at other guys,” he said. “I don’t even think they’re looking at me.”

Not exactly a denial of interest on CR's part, but what the heck.

March 21:

http://illinois.scout.com/a.z?s=169&p=2 ... 69978.html

"The Fighting Illini basketball program is still searching for a coach to replace Bruce Weber. There are several possibilities available, including Oregon State coach Craig Robinson. It remains to be seen how high on the list he is, but he does have strong connections to Chicago."

Time will tell... What will the Beavarovitch do, give him a bigger bonus for the CBI?

[greenyellow]

For him to even be on the list, they have to be really desperate.

[uostudent]

I'll feel bad for Illinois fans if they end up with Robinson. There are plenty of coaches out there who are better. The guy can recruit, but he's a pretty terrible coach.

[frogsnouts]

No! This could mean OSU gets a good coach to replace him, and we don't want that. Same goes for Riley, stick around as long as you want!

[woundedknees]

A man as consistent as 4 Loss Riley may never be matched at CornValley... And like the poster below stated, odds are he sure as shootin' wouldn't stick long if opportunity arose.

[lukeyrid13]

Riley may not be a nick saban or chip kelly but if he left OSU would be screwed. There is no way that they would find someone better than him. They would pay less than any other pac-12 school and have zero recruiting advantages. They'd reach for a hot name at a mid-major and hope that the guy panned out. Then if the guy did pan out he'd leave as soon as he could to a bigger school.

[frogsnouts]

Riley may not be a nick saban or chip kelly but if he left OSU would be screwed. There is no way that they would find someone better than him. They would pay less than any other pac-12 school and have zero recruiting advantages. They'd reach for a hot name at a mid-major and hope that the guy panned out. Then if the guy did pan out he'd leave as soon as he could to a bigger school.

Personally, I'd rather have the Riley 4 loss a year team than a potential 10 win team. Even if the coach left after two years (which he would, I don't doubt) I prefer the Beavers to be stuck with Riley.

Honestly, I'm probably just paranoid that they find the next Chip Kelly hiding somewhere in North Dakota and take the football world by storm for a year or two. Unlikely, but I would still worry that they could pull something out of the bag.

[SuperDuck]

Riley may not be a nick saban or chip kelly but if he left OSU would be screwed. There is no way that they would find someone better than him. They would pay less than any other pac-12 school and have zero recruiting advantages. They'd reach for a hot name at a mid-major and hope that the guy panned out. Then if the guy did pan out he'd leave as soon as he could to a bigger school.

Personally, I'd rather have the Riley 4 loss a year team than a potential 10 win team. Even if the coach left after two years (which he would, I don't doubt) I prefer the Beavers to be stuck with Riley.

Honestly, I'm probably just paranoid that they find the next Chip Kelly hiding somewhere in North Dakota and take the football world by storm for a year or two. Unlikely, but I would still worry that they could pull something out of the bag.

Actually, Riley is a very good coach. He does more with less than just about any other coach in the conference. If not for Chip Kelly and the Ducks blocking his path, he may have taken the Beavers to the Rose Bowl two years in a row.

Also, Dennis Erickson came in and did very well with talent mostly recruited by Riley (Fiesta Bowl win and #4 final ranking).

I'm definitely NOT on the Beaver bandwagon, but you have to give credit where credit is due. Mike Riley is a good coach. Even Chip, Bellotti and most other coaches around the country would say the same thing.

As far as Craig Robinson goes, he seems to be an overachiever. His teams have been more competitive than anyone else has produced at OSU since Ralph Miller. Would he be a good fit at Illinois? I don't think so, mainly because of the number of talented teams in the Big-10 right now. Still, the guy is said to have strong ties in Chicago and there's a TON of talent in that area. He just might surprise some people.

All that being said.....Go Ducks!!!!

[oregontrack]

Actually, Riley is a very good coach. He does more with less than just about any other coach in the conference.

i think this is a myth that somewhere along the line got mixed up with the truth. by and large osu has had decent talent over the years, and they've had decent results. i have no idea what 'more with less' even means.

Also, Dennis Erickson came in and did very well with talent mostly recruited by Riley (Fiesta Bowl win and #4 final ranking).

this depends on what you mean by 'mostly'. mike riley would not have gone 11-1 in 2000. there was a lot of mike riley talent on that 2000 team, but the defining features of that team -- the speed -- was almost all erickson. and christ, those defensive ends -- jackson and grant, if memory serves -- were erickson's. that team was a mix of your usual riley talent with some pretty amazing JC transfers. and a really, really weak pac-10 and bcs opponent.

As far as Craig Robinson goes, he seems to be an overachiever. His teams have been more competitive than anyone else has produced at OSU since Ralph Miller. Would he be a good fit at Illinois? I don't think so, mainly because of the number of talented teams in the Big-10 right now. Still, the guy is said to have strong ties in Chicago and there's a TON of talent in that area. He just might surprise some people.

an OVERachiever? no. a thousand times no. craig robinson's last two teams have greatly underachieved, especially this year's.

[UOducksTK1]

No! This could mean OSU gets a good coach to replace him, and we don't want that.

Good, good... I agree.

Same goes for Riley, stick around as long as you want!

Uhoh. Reassess that statement!! Let's be honest, OSU will be garbage at football if they drop Riley. Unless they get a top 15 coach in the country, which is impossible, they'd be dookie. Riley is a win for OSU always.

[dthomas=ddixon]

Never bought into the thought that Riley is this tremendous overachiever that is carrying a terrible program entirely on his back. He's had some very god players come through osu & he had decent success with them. But his recruiting has always been very below average & now they're reaping the consequences of that. I find it funny that the fact that they have very little talent never falls on him. And the fact that he couldn't capitalize on their successful little run & followed up those years up with some of the worst recruiting classes you will ever see is completely inexcusable.

[UOducksTK1]

Never bought into the thought that Riley is this tremendous overachiever that is carrying a terrible program entirely on his back. He's had some very god players come through osu & he had decent success with them. But his recruiting has always been very below average & now they're reaping the consequences of that. I find it funny that the fact that they have very little talent never falls on him. And the fact that he couldn't capitalize on their successful little run & followed up those years up with some of the worst recruiting classes you will ever see is completely inexcusable.

Dude even their basketball program can't recruit. Robinson is pulling in some better players, but they still struggle mightily. Riley's coaching skills >> anything else they could realistically get.

Their recruiting IS piss poor, but that's how it's going to stay.

[dthomas=ddixon]

Never bought into the thought that Riley is this tremendous overachiever that is carrying a terrible program entirely on his back. He's had some very god players come through osu & he had decent success with them. But his recruiting has always been very below average & now they're reaping the consequences of that. I find it funny that the fact that they have very little talent never falls on him. And the fact that he couldn't capitalize on their successful little run & followed up those years up with some of the worst recruiting classes you will ever see is completely inexcusable.

Dude even their basketball program can't recruit. Robinson is pulling in some better players, but they still struggle mightily. Riley's coaching skills >> anything else they could realistically get.

Their recruiting IS piss poor, but that's how it's going to stay.

Their bball program is actually recruiting very well considering there's been no success of any kind for 20+ years. They've brought in quite a few higher level talents.

Their football program has had plenty of success, for awhile there they were right there with Oregon on the field. I don't expect them to be pulling in top 25 classes but even after their 2 "rose bowl run" years they had the worst classes in the conference. Riley simply can't recruit. Riley's been flying by the seats of his pants for awhile & getting really lucky (Rodgers bros), now your seeing the real Riley. He's a "good" coach. I think there's a lot of guys out there that could go into Corvallis & do better. But we'll never find out because their athletic department is in love with mediocrity.

[UOducksTK1]

Never bought into the thought that Riley is this tremendous overachiever that is carrying a terrible program entirely on his back. He's had some very god players come through osu & he had decent success with them. But his recruiting has always been very below average & now they're reaping the consequences of that. I find it funny that the fact that they have very little talent never falls on him. And the fact that he couldn't capitalize on their successful little run & followed up those years up with some of the worst recruiting classes you will ever see is completely inexcusable.

Dude even their basketball program can't recruit. Robinson is pulling in some better players, but they still struggle mightily. Riley's coaching skills >> anything else they could realistically get.

Their recruiting IS piss poor, but that's how it's going to stay.

Their bball program is actually recruiting very well considering there's been no success of any kind for 20+ years. They've brought in quite a few higher level talents.

Their football program has had plenty of success, for awhile there they were right there with Oregon on the field. I don't expect them to be pulling in top 25 classes but even after their 2 "rose bowl run" years they had the worst classes in the conference. Riley simply can't recruit. Riley's been flying by the seats of his pants for awhile & getting really lucky (Rodgers bros), now your seeing the real Riley. He's a "good" coach. I think there's a lot of guys out there that could go into Corvallis & do better. But we'll never find out because their athletic department is in love with mediocrity.

http://oregonstate.scout.com/a.z?s=182& ... bb&yr=2012 One 3* and two 2* recruits.
http://oregonstate.scout.com/a.z?s=182& ... bb&yr=2011 One 3* recruit.
http://oregonstate.scout.com/a.z?s=182& ... bb&yr=2010 One 4*, one 3*, and one unranked.

Just saying, Obama has really had one good class and that was his 09 class. Everything since then has been average AT BEST. People blow Robinson's recruiting talents out of proportion. Yes, he is getting good value for a team like the Beavers. But their classes are still near the bottom in the Pac-12.

Even though everything you said about Riley in that post might be true, he is still better than anything I think they could realistically get. But again, we will never really know because Riley is pretty much OSU football.

[duck55]

Just saying, Obama has really had one good class and that was his 09 class.

Doesn't sound like Obama is a very good recruiter. wouldn't that be an NCAA violation???