Bennett down to four (to UNLV)

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uostudent wrote:Bennett to UNLV. Great fit for him.

Let's hope that Obekpa visits. The guy could become a monster defender for Oregon.

Eh, he probably didn't have the grades to get into the other schools. UNLV isn't a very good school, and who wants to continue living in vegas for 4 more years? Go away to college and experience something new!
UNLV is a better fit for him because they'll be a better team than Oregon next season. He's likely a one and done guy, so academics, college experience, campus, etc probably didn't really matter to him.

Bennett's grades were ok. The question was whether he'd be able to attain a high enough SAT score to be admitted. Also, some of his classes may not have transferred. It would have been worth the gamble for Oregon because he's a great player. He'll have no problem being admitted to UNLV.
I didn't go to oregon for undergraduate, but i wouldn't rank it too much higher than unlv

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USUaggieDuck wrote:I didn't go to oregon for undergraduate, but i wouldn't rank it too much higher than unlv
i say this in the nicest way possible... but that is an utterly ridiculous thing to say. oregon is a tier 1 university. unlv is a borderline trade school. academically speaking, there's no comparison.

basketball-wise, i think he made the right decision. and since this was in all likelihood a basketball decision, he chose wisely, imo. unlv is very good.
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USUaggieDuck wrote:
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uostudent wrote:Bennett to UNLV. Great fit for him.

Let's hope that Obekpa visits. The guy could become a monster defender for Oregon.

Eh, he probably didn't have the grades to get into the other schools. UNLV isn't a very good school, and who wants to continue living in vegas for 4 more years? Go away to college and experience something new!
UNLV is a better fit for him because they'll be a better team than Oregon next season. He's likely a one and done guy, so academics, college experience, campus, etc probably didn't really matter to him.

Bennett's grades were ok. The question was whether he'd be able to attain a high enough SAT score to be admitted. Also, some of his classes may not have transferred. It would have been worth the gamble for Oregon because he's a great player. He'll have no problem being admitted to UNLV.
I didn't go to oregon for undergraduate, but i wouldn't rank it too much higher than unlv

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Agree. If he wanted elite-level academics, he should have gone to Utah State. I didn't go to Utah State, but from what I hear, it's the Harvard of northern Utah.
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uostudent wrote: Agree. If he wanted elite-level academics, he should have gone to Utah State. I didn't go to Utah State, but from what I hear, it's the Harvard of northern Utah.
unbunch your panties, it wasn't personal. I could have gone to Oregon with a full ride but chose utah state.


UNLV's admission standards look bad because anybody who graduates from high school in nevada gets a full tuition waiver to unlv if they have a hs gpa of 2.5 or higher. so these kids blow of their SAT because they automatically get in. then they live off the tuition waiver for a year and drop out.



and if anybody is going to make an exception to "admissions standards" for an athlete to get in, it is oregon.
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^ I find that you don't know what you're talking about most of the time.
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uostudent wrote: Agree. If he wanted elite-level academics, he should have gone to Utah State. I didn't go to Utah State, but from what I hear, it's the Harvard of northern Utah.
Hah, that made me laugh. It is pretty annoying how often aggie disparages Oregon in general. Not that academic rankings are always accurate, but I just checked this link and USU is 170th while Oregon is 101st. UNLV isn't even ranked (not sure if that is indicative of how bad they are, or if they didn't participate). I hate academic superiority discussions (and I'm sure USU is better than Oregon in some majors), but I've been getting tired of aggie taking digs at the University of Oregon...
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uostudent wrote: Agree. If he wanted elite-level academics, he should have gone to Utah State. I didn't go to Utah State, but from what I hear, it's the Harvard of northern Utah.
Hah, that made me laugh. It is pretty annoying how often aggie disparages Oregon in general. Not that academic rankings are always accurate, but I just checked this link and USU is 170th while Oregon is 101st. UNLV isn't even ranked (not sure if that is indicative of how bad they are, or if they didn't participate). I hate academic superiority discussions (and I'm sure USU is better than Oregon in some majors), but I've been getting tired of aggie taking digs at the University of Oregon...
I don't diss oregon. I just dont have green painted goggles on. Im more fan than neutral. I have gone to every football and baseball game for two years, most basketball, and some volleyball and soccer. Even some tennis. Just because i dont blindly praise every aspect doesn't mean i am taking digs. The only real problem i have with the school is the younger portion of the fanbase behavior at football games.

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Phenom wrote:^ I find that you don't know what you're talking about most of the time.
So block me. And ignore where i said i knew Bennett was going to unlv before he announced his choice.

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USUaggieDuck wrote:unbunch your panties, it wasn't personal. I could have gone to Oregon with a full ride but chose utah state.


UNLV's admission standards look bad because anybody who graduates from high school in nevada gets a full tuition waiver to unlv if they have a hs gpa of 2.5 or higher. so these kids blow of their SAT because they automatically get in. then they live off the tuition waiver for a year and drop out.



and if anybody is going to make an exception to "admissions standards" for an athlete to get in, it is oregon.
i know this wasn't in response to me, but since i was the first to respond to the academic nugget of your post above i will repeat: oregon is a much better school, and i'm not basing that on unlv's hilariously poor entrance requirements. there's no comparing the academic programs the two schools provide once admission has been obtained. i'm not going to call you a name or anything here, i simply think you misspoke.

your second paragraph confuses me. "if anybody is going to make an exception"? everybody does make exceptions, from stanford to utah state. hell, if you're going to waste time by singling out a pac-12 institution for this practice, you'd be better served by looking at what goes on in berkeley. uc-berkeley is a top 5 public university worldwide, and they've got kids on full rides who can barely read. oregon is a pretty good school who bends admission standards for athletic purposes, berkeley and southern california are identified on an world scale as academically elite and rules are bent to outrageous degrees there. stanford and ucla are obviously elite schools, too, and while exceptions are made, i would argue it's nowhere near as rampant there as elsewhere.

in other words, i think you misspoke again.
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USUaggieDuck wrote:
I don't diss oregon. I just dont have green painted goggles on. Im more fan than neutral. I have gone to every football and baseball game for two years, most basketball, and some volleyball and soccer. Even some tennis. Just because i dont blindly praise every aspect doesn't mean i am taking digs. The only real problem i have with the school is the younger portion of the fanbase behavior at football games.

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I'd consider stating that UNLV and Oregon have similar academics as a slight, and you definitely take subtle digs at Oregon from time-to-time. Hell, you've basically said that Oregon has dumb undergraduates in the past based on conversations you have had, and that's kind of a ridiculous sample since I could probably find some dumb undergrads if I took a tour of USU's campus.

You are right in saying that you don't have green painted goggles, but you do have Utah State painted goggles. Objectivity goes both ways, and sometimes you seem to paint a different picture of Oregon than I see. I don't think that makes me biased, and I definitely could get into some of the things that I don't particularly like about the U of O. You can appreciate where you came from while also acknowledging that Oregon isn't as inferior as you seem to believe.

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oregontrack wrote:
USUaggieDuck wrote:unbunch your panties, it wasn't personal. I could have gone to Oregon with a full ride but chose utah state.


UNLV's admission standards look bad because anybody who graduates from high school in nevada gets a full tuition waiver to unlv if they have a hs gpa of 2.5 or higher. so these kids blow of their SAT because they automatically get in. then they live off the tuition waiver for a year and drop out.



and if anybody is going to make an exception to "admissions standards" for an athlete to get in, it is oregon.
i know this wasn't in response to me, but since i was the first to respond to the academic nugget of your post above i will repeat: oregon is a much better school, and i'm not basing that on unlv's hilariously poor entrance requirements. there's no comparing the academic programs the two schools provide once admission has been obtained. i'm not going to call you a name or anything here, i simply think you misspoke.

your second paragraph confuses me. "if anybody is going to make an exception"? everybody does make exceptions, from stanford to utah state. hell, if you're going to waste time by singling out a pac-12 institution for this practice, you'd be better served by looking at what goes on in berkeley. uc-berkeley is a top 5 public university worldwide, and they've got kids on full rides who can barely read. oregon is a pretty good school who bends admission standards for athletic purposes, berkeley and southern california are identified on an world scale as academically elite and rules are bent to outrageous degrees there. stanford and ucla are obviously elite schools, too, and while exceptions are made, i would argue it's nowhere near as rampant there as elsewhere.

in other words, i think you misspoke again.
I didn't mean oregon was more likely than anywhere, but that they are just as likely. I am not even against it. A lot of these athletes would never go to college otherwise. But people were suggesting he picked unlv because he was too stupid to get into a real school, and that's not right

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"uc-berkeley is a top 5 public university worldwide"

I think that many universities outside the US would challenge this comment!
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uostudent wrote: Agree. If he wanted elite-level academics, he should have gone to Utah State. I didn't go to Utah State, but from what I hear, it's the Harvard of northern Utah.
unbunch your panties, it wasn't personal. I could have gone to Oregon with a full ride but chose utah state.


UNLV's admission standards look bad because anybody who graduates from high school in nevada gets a full tuition waiver to unlv if they have a hs gpa of 2.5 or higher. so these kids blow of their SAT because they automatically get in. then they live off the tuition waiver for a year and drop out.



and if anybody is going to make an exception to "admissions standards" for an athlete to get in, it is oregon.
Except that Oregon doesn't give full rides to out of state students. I got a measly $2k per year, despite having well above average SAT's by Oregon's standards.

One of my roommates was from California and he was in the honors college. In high school he had a 4.0+/~1450 on his SAT's. He got the presidential scholarship which I believe was worth $6k per year.

To others in this thread - yes UC Berkeley is one of the top 5 research universities in the world. Their grad programs are ridiculously good in pretty much any discipline.

Cal and Florida take more special admits (for football) than any other universities in the country. A special admit is defined as a student who doesn't meet the university's minimum standards. UC's have pretty typical minimum requirements - 3.0 GPA, typical number of core courses, etc. Most people who get into UC's have far higher than a 3.0 and very good SAT scores.

Pac 10 stats for football

* GPAs

Stanford: 3.63
UCLA: 3.15
Oregon: 2.94
Cal: 2.93
Wash: 2.86
Ore St: 2.84
USC: 2.80
Wash St: 2.80
Ariz: 2.76
Ariz St: 2.76

* SATs

Stanford: 1176
UCLA: 990
Cal: 984
Ore: 969
Wash: 963
USC: 955
Ariz: 948
Ariz St: 937
Ore St: 928
Wash St: 920

GPA/SAT scores at some notable programs
Oklahoma State 3.07/878
Florida 2.54/890
Arkansas 3.01/910
Texas A&M 3.03/911
Michigan State 2.77/917
Alabama 3.14/926
Auburn 2.95/922
Florida State 2.83/917
Virginia Tech 3.06/951
Nebraska 3.11/962
Oklahoma 3.00/920
Texas 3.20/948
Ohio State 2.85/955
Wisconsin 3.00/961
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USUaggieDuck wrote:I didn't mean oregon was more likely than anywhere, but that they are just as likely. I am not even against it. A lot of these athletes would never go to college otherwise. But people were suggesting he picked unlv because he was too stupid to get into a real school, and that's not right

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since i don't think anybody truly knows his academic status, i would shy away from such an argument myself, and in that regard i agree with you. if something regarding his academic status has come to light (outside of that sat stuff) that i'm unaware of and people are basing assumptions off that, it is entirely possible that a student athlete could fail to obtain admission to oregon but get into unlv. getting into unlv just isn't that difficult. while oregon isn't ivy league by any stretch of the admission, it's slightly more difficult to get into than unlv.
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goducks wrote:"uc-berkeley is a top 5 public university worldwide"

I think that many universities outside the US would challenge this comment!
nah. berkeley is by far the #1 public institution in the united states, and i don't think anyone would dispute a top 5 worldwide ranking.
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