How Many???

[buckmarkduck]

We have 15 SRs, and have lost 5 players so far to transfer. So it looks like 20, Im not sure where you are getting only 14 at? As for Stevens we'll see if he ever returns, though I'm not holding my breath.

Read Oracle's post. We have 11 seniors, not 15

Hmm read the roster it shows 15.

[Oracle]

We have 15 SRs, and have lost 5 players so far to transfer. So it looks like 20, Im not sure where you are getting only 14 at? As for Stevens we'll see if he ever returns, though I'm not holding my breath.

Read Oracle's post. We have 11 seniors, not 15

Hmm read the roster it shows 15.

I was quoting what I read. It could be wrong but the mods didn't dis-agree with it, which makes me think that they think it to be accurate.

When looking at the roster, remember it lists all 105 players usually, not just the 85 on scholarship.

[buckmarkduck]

I looked at the roster on scout so who knows if it's totally correct, but I do remember mops saying a month or so ago that the class would be 18 or so we'll see.

[Oracle]

I looked at the roster on scout so who knows if it's totally correct, but I do remember mops saying a month or so ago that the class would be 18 or so we'll see.

That sounds about right. You have to think we will have a kid or two not make it in from last year's class and probably lose one or two more kids currently on scholarship.

I wouldn't be surprised to see us take about 18-20 commits. Remember, those guys won't actually be here until fall of 2010, except the EE. The staff will have another offseason of losses to make more room.

[Destroyer77]

With the transfers we are looking at 18-20 scholies this year.

[ncduck]

Since we lose a couple guys every spring to transfer is there any thought out there of taking 20-22 commits this year?

[Oracle]

Since we lose a couple guys every spring to transfer is there any thought out there of taking 20-22 commits this year?

It's the transfers next spring that will enable us to overbook a little and probably take 18-20 in this class.

[Spartan54]

Not everyone on the roster is on scholarship tho correct? so that makes me believe there is a few more than 14

[Oracle]

Not everyone on the roster is on scholarship tho correct? so that makes me believe there is a few more than 14

wat?

You are limited to 85 scholarships but can have 105 players on the roster. The fact that we have non scholarship players on the roster doesn't mean that we aren't full for the 85 scholarships.

Unless I'm mis-understanding what you're trying to say?

[Oracle]

Here's the latest breakdown courtesy of 10Duck on DSA:

The regretable decision by Harper leaves the Ducks with:

11 Seniors to be 2009
24 Juniors(22 + Gaines & Iupati)
18 Sophomores
8 Freshmen who redshirted 2008
21 Freshmen newcomers(Cantu + 20)
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82

71 non-seniors now provides 14 new scholies for 2010. The next non-senior departure, or non-enrollment by a newcomer, will raise it to 15.

[greenyellow]

I looked at the roster over at goducks.com and I counted 13 scholarship players. Here's where I got to my number:

LaGarrette Blount
Rory Cavaille (earned a scholarship last year)
Andre Crenshaw
Ed Dickson
Blake Ferras
Willie Glasper
Titus Jackson
Riley Showalter (earned scholarship last year)
Zach Taylor
Walter Thurmond
Simi Toeaina
Will Tukuafu
T.J. Ward

That is 13 by my count, unless Cavaille, Showalter, or some others lost their scholarships. Then you have to add in Rivera, Pflugrad, Roper, Harper, Cellotto, and Stevens to that and you got 19.

[Oracle]

I looked at the roster over at goducks.com and I counted 13 scholarship players. Here's where I got to my number:

LaGarrette Blount
Rory Cavaille (earned a scholarship last year)
Andre Crenshaw
Ed Dickson
Blake Ferras
Willie Glasper
Titus Jackson
Riley Showalter (earned scholarship last year)
Zach Taylor
Walter Thurmond
Simi Toeaina
Will Tukuafu
T.J. Ward

That is 13 by my count, unless Cavaille, Showalter, or some others lost their scholarships. Then you have to add in Rivera, Pflugrad, Roper, Harper, Cellotto, and Stevens to that and you got 19.

No. We would have been over 85 this fall if people hadn't left. You're making the assumption that with Rivera, Pflugrad, Roper, Harper, Cellotto, and Stevens still on the team and the entire recruiting class from '09 getting in we would have been at 85. That is incorrect. We would have been over and would have had to greyshirt some of the kids who wanted to enroll this fall.

[Oracle]

Let me see if I can explain better.

Looking at non-seniors we have:

24 Juniors(22 + Gaines & Iupati)
18 Sophomores
8 Freshmen who redshirted 2008
21 Freshmen newcomers(Cantu + 20)


71 total. These are the players who will be here for the 2010 season. Rory and Riley are irrelevant. We can have a total of 85 to start the 2010 season. That leaves 14 as things currently are on paper.

If any of those 21 freshmen newcomers don't show up those will be deducted from the 71. If either of the two JUCOs don't show (Gaines & Iupati) those will be deducted from the 71. If anybody leaves (who's not a senior) that will be deducted from that number.

But as it stands right now, if everybody gets in, and nobody transfers or leaves before the 2010 season starts, we have 14 scholarships available for the 2010 recruiting cycle.

Obviously there will be casualties and the number will go up but right now we're working from the number 14.

[VinnyKnuckles]

Threads like this are always comical. This isn't rocket science people, just look at the roster and do the math. When Mops guessed that we would have around 18 scholarships to give out in the next recruiting class, that was his best guess at the time while trying to predict the number of future transfers, players not qualifying, etc. Thus, you don't take the number 18 and start adding to it each time a player transfers, or come up with some other similarly flawed formula. Saying the number is currently 14 isn't a guess or an estimate. That is the exact number at this point in time. We all know that, one way or another, that number is almost certain to grow between now and next signing day. It will be very easy to track exactly what that number is in the future. Just start adding on to the number 14 from this point forward.

I have done this a couple times in the past since having an actual list of names people can look at makes it pretty hard to refute the numbers, but here is the updated list of players that, at this moment, are projected to be on scholarship for the Ducks during the 2010 season. You will notice the running total equals 71. 85 minus 71 = 14.

QUARTERBACKS
Jermiah Masoli
Nathan Costa
Darron Thomas
Daryle Hawkins
(Total: 4, Running Total: 4)

RUNNING BACKS
LaMichael James
Remene Alston Jr.
(Total: 2, Running Total: 6)

TIGHT ENDS
Malachi Lewis
David Paulson
(Total: 2, Running Total: 8)

WIDE RECEIVERS
Jeffrey Maehl
Jamere Holland
Drew Davis
Dion Jordan
Blake Cantu
Tyrece Gaines
Diante Jackson
Lavasier Tuinei
Garrett Embry
Braxton Lane
Nick Cole
(Total: 11, Running Total 19)

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN
C.E. Kaiser
Bo Thran
Jordan Holmes
Mark Asper
Nick Cody
Carson York
Darrion Weems
Charlie Carmichael
NaDerris Ward
Everett Benyard III
Karrington Armstrong
Trevor Fox
Jamaal Burrell
(Total: 13, Running Total: 32)

CORNERBACKS
Kenjon Barner
Anthony Gildon
Scott Grady
Will Wallace
Cliff Harris
Avery Patterson
(Total: 6, Running Total: 38)

SAFETIES
Talmadge Jackson III
Marvin Johnson
Javes Lewis
Chad Peppars
John Boyett
Brian Jackson
(Total: 6, Running Total: 44)

LINEBACKERS
Casey Matthews
Spencer Paysinger
Eddie Pleasant
Bryson Littlejohn
Dewitt Stuckey
Brandon Hanna
Terrance Pritchett
Kiko Alonso
Josh Kaddu
Boseko Lokombo
Michael Clay
(Total: 11, Running Total: 55)

DEFENSIVE ENDS
Kenny Rowe
Terrell Turner
Zac Clark
Dominic Glover
Tyrell Irvin
Taylor Hart
Anthony Anderson
Keaton Arden
(Total: 8, Running Total: 63)

DEFENSIVE TACKLES
Brandon Bair
Terrance Montgomery
Andrew Iupati
Justin Brown
Wade Keliikipi
(Total: 5, Running Total: 68)

SPECIALISTS
Jackson Rice
Daniel Padilla
Mike Bowlin
(Total: 3, Running Total: 71)

[GrandpaDuck]

Vinny,

You don't have Ramsen Golpashin, and Max Forer listed. Both are in the current 2 deep and are underclassmen. Isn't there a good chance that these two will be given scholarships if they make the travel squad?