GrandpaDuck wrote:I would bet on Chip getting to the PAC-12 championship game before Oregon does. While even for Chip recruiting helps, but Player Development >>> Recruiting. While some may think he doesn't care, Chip cares tremendously about getting players he thinks he can develop. He cares more about length, frame, mobility, hand size, athletic versatility, academic viability and coachability than how much a player dominated opponents 50 lbs less than them in high school and what their star rating is. Even with his love of those things, he still is even bigger on CULTURE as he is willing to throw out all those measurables and take and love a 5'9" QB recruit who is his cultural dream player.
Does anyone remember facing them this year with a true freshman QB and 50 some scholarship players and thinking wow if not for a couple of breaks this would be close, and not looking forward to playing them in a couple of years.
I gots me a dollar to bet (and I'd love to lose it). And no I don't want that to happen. I want the Ducks to win every game, but its what I think will happen.
Disagree. Chip doesn't give af
He's going to win the p12 with 3 stars? Don't bet on it
GrandpaDuck wrote:I would bet on Chip getting to the PAC-12 championship game before Oregon does. While even for Chip recruiting helps, but Player Development >>> Recruiting. While some may think he doesn't care, Chip cares tremendously about getting players he thinks he can develop. He cares more about length, frame, mobility, hand size, athletic versatility, academic viability and coachability than how much a player dominated opponents 50 lbs less than them in high school and what their star rating is. Even with his love of those things, he still is even bigger on CULTURE as he is willing to throw out all those measurables and take and love a 5'9" QB recruit who is his cultural dream player.
Does anyone remember facing them this year with a true freshman QB and 50 some scholarship players and thinking wow if not for a couple of breaks this would be close, and not looking forward to playing them in a couple of years.
I gots me a dollar to bet (and I'd love to lose it). And no I don't want that to happen. I want the Ducks to win every game, but its what I think will happen.
Disagree. Chip doesn't give af
He's going to win the p12 with 3 stars? Don't bet on it
He did with a lot of 3 stars when at Oregon, see Mariota, etc.
GrandpaDuck wrote:I would bet on Chip getting to the PAC-12 championship game before Oregon does. While even for Chip recruiting helps, but Player Development >>> Recruiting. While some may think he doesn't care, Chip cares tremendously about getting players he thinks he can develop. He cares more about length, frame, mobility, hand size, athletic versatility, academic viability and coachability than how much a player dominated opponents 50 lbs less than them in high school and what their star rating is. Even with his love of those things, he still is even bigger on CULTURE as he is willing to throw out all those measurables and take and love a 5'9" QB recruit who is his cultural dream player.
Does anyone remember facing them this year with a true freshman QB and 50 some scholarship players and thinking wow if not for a couple of breaks this would be close, and not looking forward to playing them in a couple of years.
I gots me a dollar to bet (and I'd love to lose it). And no I don't want that to happen. I want the Ducks to win every game, but its what I think will happen.
Disagree. Chip doesn't give af
He's going to win the p12 with 3 stars? Don't bet on it
He did with a lot of 3 stars when at Oregon, see Mariota, etc.
GrandpaDuck wrote:I would bet on Chip getting to the PAC-12 championship game before Oregon does. While even for Chip recruiting helps, but Player Development >>> Recruiting. While some may think he doesn't care, Chip cares tremendously about getting players he thinks he can develop. He cares more about length, frame, mobility, hand size, athletic versatility, academic viability and coachability than how much a player dominated opponents 50 lbs less than them in high school and what their star rating is. Even with his love of those things, he still is even bigger on CULTURE as he is willing to throw out all those measurables and take and love a 5'9" QB recruit who is his cultural dream player.
Does anyone remember facing them this year with a true freshman QB and 50 some scholarship players and thinking wow if not for a couple of breaks this would be close, and not looking forward to playing them in a couple of years.
I gots me a dollar to bet (and I'd love to lose it). And no I don't want that to happen. I want the Ducks to win every game, but its what I think will happen.
Disagree. ‘Chip doesn't give af
He's going to win the p12 with 3 stars? Don't bet on it
He did with a lot of 3 stars when at Oregon, see Mariota, etc.
Really?
‘Chip was getting top 15 classes. Not even close’
So then what makes you say he doesn’t give ‘af’, and can’t, or doesn’t want to recruit? You just proved he can recruit, and be very successful at it.
GrandpaDuck wrote:I would bet on Chip getting to the PAC-12 championship game before Oregon does. While even for Chip recruiting helps, but Player Development >>> Recruiting. While some may think he doesn't care, Chip cares tremendously about getting players he thinks he can develop. He cares more about length, frame, mobility, hand size, athletic versatility, academic viability and coachability than how much a player dominated opponents 50 lbs less than them in high school and what their star rating is. Even with his love of those things, he still is even bigger on CULTURE as he is willing to throw out all those measurables and take and love a 5'9" QB recruit who is his cultural dream player.
Does anyone remember facing them this year with a true freshman QB and 50 some scholarship players and thinking wow if not for a couple of breaks this would be close, and not looking forward to playing them in a couple of years.
I gots me a dollar to bet (and I'd love to lose it). And no I don't want that to happen. I want the Ducks to win every game, but its what I think will happen.
Disagree. ‘Chip doesn't give af
He's going to win the p12 with 3 stars? Don't bet on it
He did with a lot of 3 stars when at Oregon, see Mariota, etc.
Really?
‘Chip was getting top 15 classes. Not even close’
So then what makes you say he doesn’t give ‘af’, and can’t, or doesn’t want to recruit? You just proved he can recruit, and be very successful at it.
Are you dense? Chip has like the 50th ranked class currently
Chip is offering a lot of 4 stars that match his criteria, but they aren't closing on many of them. He could use a rainmaker on his staff to trim a couple years off the raw talent upgrading process.
My bet was Chip winning his division first. Oregon has to get past 3 of the top 5 coaches in the PAC. Chip has Whittingham who has even less 4 stars than he does. I like his odds better to win his division, but he'll need to close better on his targets to actually beat the North Champion. There are coaches in the North who are also good at player development and are working with better raw ingredients at the moment.
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Phenom wrote:Wasn't someone saying that Chip would be getting 5-6 5*s per class at UCLA? It might have been Grandpa...
It was me. I was wrong.
Did I say 5-6 ? If I did that was the fireball talking.
I know my prediction was before he hired a staff. I still think with a rainmaker on the staff (doesnt have one) and winning seasons (not yet); I could see 2-3 (and I'm sober now)