UCLA @ Cincinnati (Thu, 8/29/19, 4 p.m. PT, ESPN)

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UCLA @ Cincinnati (Thu, 8/29/19, 4 p.m. PT, ESPN)

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As I write this, this game is just hours away. Cincy is a slight favorite. I don't have any real feel for this game, but I'm not betting against Chip just yet.
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Greenblood wrote:As I write this, this game is just hours away. Cincy is a slight favorite. I don't have any real feel for this game, but I'm not betting against Chip just yet.
My feelings exactly
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I'm tempted to put money on UCLA, assuming DTR makes some steps forward and that the talent of the UCLA first string is enough to beat a solid Cincy team, but I'm going to wait. Openers can be sloppy, especially as a road team.
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Save your money, UCLA looks terrible. About 100 yards offense at the half and 75 of those came on one play. Lots of penalties. 10-7 probably should be 20-0.
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Josh Kelley, Theo Howard and Darnay Holmes all out, but the announcers are too concerned with their fake Australian accents to mention it.
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UCLA box score 218 yards, 62 rushing. 9 penalties, 4 turnovers and less than 22 minutes TOP.
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Chip has completely lost it after leaving Oregon, he never should have left.

However, I think he’ll be out at UCLA this year, so if Arroyo struggles again there’s an option for OC in 2020!
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OregonFan4Life wrote:Chip has completely lost it after leaving Oregon, he never should have left.

However, I think he’ll be out at UCLA this year, so if Arroyo struggles again there’s an option for OC in 2020!

What are you seeing that makes you think that's a good idea? He made UCLA worse. The shifting lineman thing was interesting, but the dude is not ready for another high profile job. Do you really see Cristobal bringing in a coach that doesn't like to recruit? His last good year was 2014.
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Chips also used to being an alpha now. We saw how that worked out with Leavitt.
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If DTR isn't complete trash, UCLA wins, even with Howard and Holmes out. That kid can't run the offense.
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StevensTechU wrote:If DTR isn't complete trash, UCLA wins, even with Howard and Holmes out. That kid can't run the offense.
True, but in "the good old days" CK could make Justin Roper look like an AA candidate. Now the high 4* he recruited looks lost.
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"One game doesn't define us."

Oh, wait, maybe he already had to use that last year.
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DTR was awful, but not having Kelley was huge as it made the offense dependent on DTR. They tried a double tightend big back offense and showed once again that isn't the answer to a QB you don't have a lot of faith in. It looked like Willie's offense when Herbert was injured.

On the positive side, the defense looked good for a road game against a quality QB. A coin flip fumble call that could not have been overrode by replay either way prevented the game from being a 3 point game with 3 minutes to go.

This game was not a disaster for a road game against a team that was 11-2 last year while missing your 2 best offensive players.
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wepto wrote:
OregonFan4Life wrote:Chip has completely lost it after leaving Oregon, he never should have left.

However, I think he’ll be out at UCLA this year, so if Arroyo struggles again there’s an option for OC in 2020!

What are you seeing that makes you think that's a good idea? He made UCLA worse. The shifting lineman thing was interesting, but the dude is not ready for another high profile job. Do you really see Cristobal bringing in a coach that doesn't like to recruit? His last good year was 2014.
You don’t need to have an OC that’s good at recruiting if the head coach and multiple position coaches are great recruiters, which you have at Oregon. We know Chip has a brilliant offensive mind, to me this isn’t about him being dumb as much as I just don’t think he cares anymore. As previously noted he was lazy on the recruiting trail. Maybe it’d be enticing to him to go back to the place where he’s loved and only have to focus on offensive strategy and can let Cristobal and others handle the recruiting and discipline and the less fun stuff.
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OregonFan4Life wrote:
wepto wrote:
OregonFan4Life wrote:Chip has completely lost it after leaving Oregon, he never should have left.

However, I think he’ll be out at UCLA this year, so if Arroyo struggles again there’s an option for OC in 2020!

What are you seeing that makes you think that's a good idea? He made UCLA worse. The shifting lineman thing was interesting, but the dude is not ready for another high profile job. Do you really see Cristobal bringing in a coach that doesn't like to recruit? His last good year was 2014.
You don’t need to have an OC that’s good at recruiting if the head coach and multiple position coaches are great recruiters, which you have at Oregon. We know Chip has a brilliant offensive mind, to me this isn’t about him being dumb as much as I just don’t think he cares anymore. As previously noted he was lazy on the recruiting trail. Maybe it’d be enticing to him to go back to the place where he’s loved and only have to focus on offensive strategy and can let Cristobal and others handle the recruiting and discipline and the less fun stuff.

sorry Chip is not coming back here. That ship sailed when every school started using his offense
and defenses started to stop it. He was special here no denying it. But he showed in the pros
and so far at ucla that he's to stubborn to change. A guy like Mario is not going to higher a guy
like Chip. Chip has to be the one calling the shots, and he like you said is not going to recruit which
is a huge step above what we have ever seen here.
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