Fresno State @ #15 Oregon (Nov 5 Tuesday 6 pm)

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We need Dante.
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One thing for sure, we need Dante if we're going to be a team that goes to the 2nd week of March. Rest is kind of too early to tell. Guys like Shakur/Duarte are going to take 10 games or so to adjust to the new team. Otherwise, we just don't have the talent level we had last year, or even close.


Positives:
I like Lawson's feel for the game
Duarte is going to be pretty good.
Defense overall was pretty good tonight.
Mathis is a better defender than I thought.
Okoro is still a beast.

Negatives:
CJ Walker was grossly overrated as a 5*. He's a pretty good athlete with an OK shot for a big guy, but his skill is pretty bad overall for someone who clearly wants to play a bunch on the wing. If he's a 5*, Bol and King were 8*'s.
Patterson looks like a guy that's going to take awhile to adjust as well. Like a guy that was a stud in HS but is a bit lost at this level.
Turnovers are going to be an issue with this team, I like I thought based on #'s.
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My top takeaway from tonight’s game is that NCAA basketball is still unwatchable with how many fouls refs call. It’s just hard to enjoy the game and for either team to get in a rhythm when it feels like there’s a foul almost every possession.

Other takeaways:
-Pritchard looks better than ever!
-Richardson needs to learn that he actually can shoot the ball. He still is far too hesitant.
-Okoro looked solid but still has an issue with butterfingers and needs to learn better positioning down low.
-Matthis was better than expected even though he couldn’t buy a 3 tonight.
-Juiston had a bad first half but then figured things out. He’ll be a solid role player.
-Duarte will bring us a streaky fairly tall wing player we haven’t had since Brooks, that’ll help.
-Addison looked dang bad
-Walker is athletic but looks like he hasn’t picked up a basketball before. He’s nowhere close to being one and done.

Overall, some positives, and hopefully Dante adds an element to this team. But from the small sample size that was this game, this doesn’t look like a PAC-12 championship caliber team. Maybe they’ll squeak into the NCAA tournament, but I wouldn’t be terribly surprised to see them NIT bound this year. Hope they prove me wrong! Bol, King, and Wooten were fools to leave last year.
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Good to get the opening win but this team is still ways off from being considered the conference favorite.
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OregonFan4Life wrote:My top takeaway from tonight’s game is that NCAA basketball is still unwatchable with how many fouls refs call. It’s just hard to enjoy the game and for either team to get in a rhythm when it feels like there’s a foul almost every possession.

Other takeaways:
-Pritchard looks better than ever!
-Richardson needs to learn that he actually can shoot the ball. He still is far too hesitant.
-Okoro looked solid but still has an issue with butterfingers and needs to learn better positioning down low.
-Matthis was better than expected even though he couldn’t buy a 3 tonight.
-Juiston had a bad first half but then figured things out. He’ll be a solid role player.
-Duarte will bring us a streaky fairly tall wing player we haven’t had since Brooks, that’ll help.
-Addison looked dang bad
-Walker is athletic but looks like he hasn’t picked up a basketball before. He’s nowhere close to being one and done.

Overall, some positives, and hopefully Dante adds an element to this team. But from the small sample size that was this game, this doesn’t look like a PAC-12 championship caliber team. Maybe they’ll squeak into the NCAA tournament, but I wouldn’t be terribly surprised to see them NIT bound this year. Hope they prove me wrong! Bol, King, and Wooten were fools to leave last year.
I wish we could find reviews of every one of Altman’s teams’ first games. I they would all read exactly like this.


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whosyourwally wrote:
OregonFan4Life wrote:My top takeaway from tonight’s game is that NCAA basketball is still unwatchable with how many fouls refs call. It’s just hard to enjoy the game and for either team to get in a rhythm when it feels like there’s a foul almost every possession.

Other takeaways:
-Pritchard looks better than ever!
-Richardson needs to learn that he actually can shoot the ball. He still is far too hesitant.
-Okoro looked solid but still has an issue with butterfingers and needs to learn better positioning down low.
-Matthis was better than expected even though he couldn’t buy a 3 tonight.
-Juiston had a bad first half but then figured things out. He’ll be a solid role player.
-Duarte will bring us a streaky fairly tall wing player we haven’t had since Brooks, that’ll help.
-Addison looked dang bad
-Walker is athletic but looks like he hasn’t picked up a basketball before. He’s nowhere close to being one and done.

Overall, some positives, and hopefully Dante adds an element to this team. But from the small sample size that was this game, this doesn’t look like a PAC-12 championship caliber team. Maybe they’ll squeak into the NCAA tournament, but I wouldn’t be terribly surprised to see them NIT bound this year. Hope they prove me wrong! Bol, King, and Wooten were fools to leave last year.
I wish we could find reviews of every one of Altman’s teams’ first games. I they would all read exactly like this.


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Last year they squeaked into the tournament and had more athleticism than this year. Besides, there were only two years where they were dominant and went to the Elite Eight as a 1 seed and Final Four as a 3 seed, and those were veteran teams that played together for a while. This year they’re introducing 8 new players. Most season are exactly like I said, barely make the NCAA’s or settle for NIT. It’s not like Altman has had constant Final Four teams every year. I know the turnaround was impressive last year, but let’s settle down and not act like Altman is a god.
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OregonFan4Life wrote:
whosyourwally wrote:
OregonFan4Life wrote:My top takeaway from tonight’s game is that NCAA basketball is still unwatchable with how many fouls refs call. It’s just hard to enjoy the game and for either team to get in a rhythm when it feels like there’s a foul almost every possession.

Other takeaways:
-Pritchard looks better than ever!
-Richardson needs to learn that he actually can shoot the ball. He still is far too hesitant.
-Okoro looked solid but still has an issue with butterfingers and needs to learn better positioning down low.
-Matthis was better than expected even though he couldn’t buy a 3 tonight.
-Juiston had a bad first half but then figured things out. He’ll be a solid role player.
-Duarte will bring us a streaky fairly tall wing player we haven’t had since Brooks, that’ll help.
-Addison looked dang bad
-Walker is athletic but looks like he hasn’t picked up a basketball before. He’s nowhere close to being one and done.

Overall, some positives, and hopefully Dante adds an element to this team. But from the small sample size that was this game, this doesn’t look like a PAC-12 championship caliber team. Maybe they’ll squeak into the NCAA tournament, but I wouldn’t be terribly surprised to see them NIT bound this year. Hope they prove me wrong! Bol, King, and Wooten were fools to leave last year.
I wish we could find reviews of every one of Altman’s teams’ first games. I they would all read exactly like this.


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Last year they squeaked into the tournament and had more athleticism than this year. Besides, there were only two years where they were dominant and went to the Elite Eight as a 1 seed and Final Four as a 3 seed, and those were veteran teams that played together for a while. This year they’re introducing 8 new players. Most season are exactly like I said, barely make the NCAA’s or settle for NIT. It’s not like Altman has had constant Final Four teams every year. I know the turnaround was impressive last year, but let’s settle down and not act like Altman is a god.
Full disclosure, I missed the game. But as for Altman’s godliness... he’s now Oregon’s all time winningest coach, eh? Just glad I’m living in his world.


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whosyourwally wrote:
OregonFan4Life wrote:
whosyourwally wrote:
OregonFan4Life wrote:My top takeaway from tonight’s game is that NCAA basketball is still unwatchable with how many fouls refs call. It’s just hard to enjoy the game and for either team to get in a rhythm when it feels like there’s a foul almost every possession.

Other takeaways:
-Pritchard looks better than ever!
-Richardson needs to learn that he actually can shoot the ball. He still is far too hesitant.
-Okoro looked solid but still has an issue with butterfingers and needs to learn better positioning down low.
-Matthis was better than expected even though he couldn’t buy a 3 tonight.
-Juiston had a bad first half but then figured things out. He’ll be a solid role player.
-Duarte will bring us a streaky fairly tall wing player we haven’t had since Brooks, that’ll help.
-Addison looked dang bad
-Walker is athletic but looks like he hasn’t picked up a basketball before. He’s nowhere close to being one and done.

Overall, some positives, and hopefully Dante adds an element to this team. But from the small sample size that was this game, this doesn’t look like a PAC-12 championship caliber team. Maybe they’ll squeak into the NCAA tournament, but I wouldn’t be terribly surprised to see them NIT bound this year. Hope they prove me wrong! Bol, King, and Wooten were fools to leave last year.
I wish we could find reviews of every one of Altman’s teams’ first games. I they would all read exactly like this.


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Last year they squeaked into the tournament and had more athleticism than this year. Besides, there were only two years where they were dominant and went to the Elite Eight as a 1 seed and Final Four as a 3 seed, and those were veteran teams that played together for a while. This year they’re introducing 8 new players. Most season are exactly like I said, barely make the NCAA’s or settle for NIT. It’s not like Altman has had constant Final Four teams every year. I know the turnaround was impressive last year, but let’s settle down and not act like Altman is a god.
Full disclosure, I missed the game. But as for Altman’s godliness... he’s now Oregon’s all time winningest coach, eh? Just glad I’m living in his world.


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Oh I agree, I’m glad he’s our coach. Won’t lie and say that I’m a tad bothered he wasn’t able to take more advantage of the Final Four run and my biggest criticism of him as a coach is his struggles to keep a consistent team (a graphic today showed that for a large majority of Altman’s tenure here, he’s been introducing 7+ new guys a season). I just felt like what I said wasn’t that crazy cause for most of Altman’s seasons squeaking into the NCAA tourney is pretty much the norm. But I do like him as a coach and know his teams always play their best basketball towards the end of the season. Maybe some of the guys like Patterson that really struggled today figure something out and Dante is a powerful force downlow and this team ends up being as good as advertised and wins the PAC-12 and goes to the Elite Eight or further.
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GrantDuck wrote:One thing for sure, we need Dante if we're going to be a team that goes to the 2nd week of March. Rest is kind of too early to tell. Guys like Shakur/Duarte are going to take 10 games or so to adjust to the new team. Otherwise, we just don't have the talent level we had last year, or even close.


Positives:
I like Lawson's feel for the game
Duarte is going to be pretty good.
Defense overall was pretty good tonight.
Mathis is a better defender than I thought.
Okoro is still a beast.

Negatives:
CJ Walker was grossly overrated as a 5*. He's a pretty good athlete with an OK shot for a big guy, but his skill is pretty bad overall for someone who clearly wants to play a bunch on the wing. If he's a 5*, Bol and King were 8*'s.
Patterson looks like a guy that's going to take awhile to adjust as well. Like a guy that was a stud in HS but is a bit lost at this level.
Turnovers are going to be an issue with this team, I like I thought based on #'s.
I disagree that this team is not as talented as last year. This is a much deeper team. Pritchard and Okoro have improved. Duarte is a big upgrade over Amin or White. Juiston is in my opinion a better overall player than Wooten. Really, the only downgrade is King to Mathis in the starting lineup. The freshmen played as such in their first collegiate game against a pretty decent opponent. Walker isn’t a scorer like Bol or King, but he also wasn’t expected to be. His athleticism and defense was a big reason for his 5 star rating. If Dante gets cleared, this team could have a rotation of 10-11 guys, while last year they struggled to have a 7 man rotation. This team at the end of the year will be better than last year’s team. You guys are overreacting to 1 game where the team also happened to shoot incredibly poorly.
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GrantDuck wrote:One thing for sure, we need Dante if we're going to be a team that goes to the 2nd week of March. Rest is kind of too early to tell. Guys like Shakur/Duarte are going to take 10 games or so to adjust to the new team. Otherwise, we just don't have the talent level we had last year, or even close.


Positives:
I like Lawson's feel for the game
Duarte is going to be pretty good.
Defense overall was pretty good tonight.
Mathis is a better defender than I thought.
Okoro is still a beast.

Negatives:
CJ Walker was grossly overrated as a 5*. He's a pretty good athlete with an OK shot for a big guy, but his skill is pretty bad overall for someone who clearly wants to play a bunch on the wing. If he's a 5*, Bol and King were 8*'s.
Patterson looks like a guy that's going to take awhile to adjust as well. Like a guy that was a stud in HS but is a bit lost at this level.
Turnovers are going to be an issue with this team, I like I thought based on #'s.
Duarte is gonna be a baller, not sure on Juiston yet. His offensive game seems pretty wild and not consistent. Got this vibe from the preseason game too.

Hard to judge Walker and Patterson when they only played 8 and 11 minutes. Walker actually looks like a fantastic rebounder, and I bet on defensive help, he will be good too. Patterson did look really awful, but again 8 minutes. I think he may need a few college games in his belt to look good.

Also I noticed Altman gave our starting 5 lots of minutes, seems to me he is trying to get prepped for some tough non-conference games, including Memphis next week.

If we had cupcakes to start with, I bet Walker/Patterson play more, and we would have had higher praise for them.

Last note: I expected Mathis to pretty much just be a shooter, but he can finish well and should score in a variety of ways. And his D was solid. I really like his game!

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I also liked that we only hit 1 3-pointer all game, and still won by 14. Our rebounding was great, and our defense was better than I thought.

Ast-Turnover ratio was concerning. But a little early to tell.

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I thought our guard play was very good last night considering this was the first game. Duarte and Mathis are both solid on both ends of the floor. Once they get comfortable with Pritch, look out.

Rebounding was solid. Okoro, Walker, and Juiston had position all night against some talented veteran big guy from FSU. I also loved how Duarte crashed the boards all night. That dude is going to be a baller.

Defense also looked pretty good for the first game. They need to clean up the perimeter a little. Too many wide open looks from three, but other than that it was pretty solid.

Offense was a bit of a mess, but I am less concerned than most of the others on here. It is usually the easiest thing to fix and we have proven 10+ point scorers in Pritch, Duarte, Mathis, and Juiston.

We are going to take a few lumps early, but by January, this team is going to be very good.
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