For here Zyme figured it out- but it's been pretty well known since a couple years after the game came out that the handles stat was totally broken.jibbajabba614 wrote:Zyme was the one who figured out the glitch in the game. Point guards with 70+ handles break the game. Reason why we try to keep them at a 30-40 range in the draft.chipper wrote:Yeah and the PG position in FBB is so broken- it's why there are limits as to who can play it. PG is such an advantage in this game it's crazy.jibbajabba614 wrote:Moses Malone was put in there for a reason. Made sure he would be the top pick. Harper is good, just not MVP good. Having a scoring PG does really help the league transition into more outside shooting teams.chipper wrote:Yeah you can make an argument of sorts that,d epending on team need, he COULD have gone ahead of Sampson if a team was stacked at the big- because his notes are incredible.
1983 Draft Discussion
Moderators: UOducksTK1, Zyme, lukeyrid13, Oregon Ownage
-
chipper
- Four Star Recruit
- Posts: 754
- Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:18 pm
- GM: Indiana Pacers
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
Pacers GM.
- jibbajabba614
- Senior
- Posts: 2410
- Joined: Sat May 23, 2015 6:32 pm
- GM: Milwaukee Bucks GM
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
Yep. I always wondered the algorithms they used for positions.chipper wrote:For here Zyme figured it out- but it's been pretty well known since a couple years after the game came out that the handles stat was totally broken.jibbajabba614 wrote:Zyme was the one who figured out the glitch in the game. Point guards with 70+ handles break the game. Reason why we try to keep them at a 30-40 range in the draft.chipper wrote:Yeah and the PG position in FBB is so broken- it's why there are limits as to who can play it. PG is such an advantage in this game it's crazy.jibbajabba614 wrote:Moses Malone was put in there for a reason. Made sure he would be the top pick. Harper is good, just not MVP good. Having a scoring PG does really help the league transition into more outside shooting teams.chipper wrote:Yeah you can make an argument of sorts that,d epending on team need, he COULD have gone ahead of Sampson if a team was stacked at the big- because his notes are incredible.
-
chipper
- Four Star Recruit
- Posts: 754
- Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:18 pm
- GM: Indiana Pacers
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
So the new version has been out for awhile. Someone asked Greydog if they'd be willing to release the official coding behind the original game- they said normally they would, but it's "so bad it's embarrassing" at how poor a job they did coding that they won't release it. But yeah- things like drive defense having absolutely no effect on anything at all, handles stat, etc. Yeah- game is massively flawed. You just have to know how it fails in certain areas to get good.jibbajabba614 wrote:Yep. I always wondered the algorithms they used for positions.chipper wrote:For here Zyme figured it out- but it's been pretty well known since a couple years after the game came out that the handles stat was totally broken.jibbajabba614 wrote:Zyme was the one who figured out the glitch in the game. Point guards with 70+ handles break the game. Reason why we try to keep them at a 30-40 range in the draft.chipper wrote:Yeah and the PG position in FBB is so broken- it's why there are limits as to who can play it. PG is such an advantage in this game it's crazy.jibbajabba614 wrote:Moses Malone was put in there for a reason. Made sure he would be the top pick. Harper is good, just not MVP good. Having a scoring PG does really help the league transition into more outside shooting teams.chipper wrote:Yeah you can make an argument of sorts that,d epending on team need, he COULD have gone ahead of Sampson if a team was stacked at the big- because his notes are incredible.
Pacers GM.
- the goat
- Freshman
- Posts: 1442
- Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:40 pm
- GM: Los Angeles Lakers
-
chipper
- Four Star Recruit
- Posts: 754
- Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:18 pm
- GM: Indiana Pacers
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
the goat wrote:I wish I knew all this stuff before
Yeah if you have any questions- feel free to direct them at me and I'm happy to answer them.
Pacers GM.
- jibbajabba614
- Senior
- Posts: 2410
- Joined: Sat May 23, 2015 6:32 pm
- GM: Milwaukee Bucks GM
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
Lol. Right. I know this is a draft discussion, but Chipper caught my interest. CPU coding is so hard and we are talking about a time when madden, live, 2k we’re just coming out with franchise modes. I don’t know about now but they were terrible for the first 5 years. Reason why I became I fan of fbb
-
chipper
- Four Star Recruit
- Posts: 754
- Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:18 pm
- GM: Indiana Pacers
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
Yeah honestly FBB was better than most. I actually prefer JSB to FBB because I think it's less broken- but it does have its flaws for sure. Still in a good JSB league with my buds from 12 years ago lol.jibbajabba614 wrote:Lol. Right. I know this is a draft discussion, but Chipper caught my interest. CPU coding is so hard and we are talking about a time when madden, live, 2k we’re just coming out with franchise modes. I don’t know about now but they were terrible for the first 5 years. Reason why I became I fan of fbb
Pacers GM.
- the goat
- Freshman
- Posts: 1442
- Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:40 pm
- GM: Los Angeles Lakers
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
What other quirks about the game should I know? Like about how drive defense doesn't do anything?
Also, how does the "play for winner" stat work?
Also, how does the "play for winner" stat work?
Lakers GM
- lukeyrid13
- All-American
- Posts: 10475
- Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:58 am
- GM: Portland TrailBlazers
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
Watch out for guys that are “athletic”
Jumping makes inside scoring go up, but it’s artificial
Jumping makes inside scoring go up, but it’s artificial
-
chipper
- Four Star Recruit
- Posts: 754
- Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:18 pm
- GM: Indiana Pacers
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
Usually effects it the most with re-signing- looks at how many wins you had and places a bonus based on that to decide if he wants to re-sign- FA is honestly a total crapshoot.the goat wrote:What other quirks about the game should I know? Like about how drive defense doesn't do anything?![]()
Also, how does the "play for winner" stat work?
Pacers GM.
- pudgejeff
- All Pac-12
- Posts: 5012
- Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:21 am
- GM: Sacramento Kings GM
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
If I remember correctly we play with those turned off here?chipper wrote:Usually effects it the most with re-signing- looks at how many wins you had and places a bonus based on that to decide if he wants to re-sign- FA is honestly a total crapshoot.the goat wrote:What other quirks about the game should I know? Like about how drive defense doesn't do anything?![]()
Also, how does the "play for winner" stat work?
-
chipper
- Four Star Recruit
- Posts: 754
- Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:18 pm
- GM: Indiana Pacers
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
Oh we might I’m not sure how we’ve done it here.pudgejeff wrote:If I remember correctly we play with those turned off here?chipper wrote:Usually effects it the most with re-signing- looks at how many wins you had and places a bonus based on that to decide if he wants to re-sign- FA is honestly a total crapshoot.the goat wrote:What other quirks about the game should I know? Like about how drive defense doesn't do anything?![]()
Also, how does the "play for winner" stat work?
Pacers GM.
-
chipper
- Four Star Recruit
- Posts: 754
- Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:18 pm
- GM: Indiana Pacers
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
Was hoping McCray or Harper would fall to me- so I’m happy McCray did. Did consider a PG as well- but I’m hopeful Lester comes around like he should. McCray adds much needed balance to the lineup.
Pacers GM.
- the goat
- Freshman
- Posts: 1442
- Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:40 pm
- GM: Los Angeles Lakers
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
The rest of the league should be scared now that I have an actual PG on my team 
Lakers GM
-
Briezy
- Five Star Recruit
- Posts: 1013
- Joined: Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:04 pm
- GM: Cleveland Cavaliers GM
Re: 1983 Draft Discussion
I really like Byron Scott but I felt I had SG squared away.