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DuckBomb2 wrote:Looking way too far ahead, but ...

If USC/UCLA each want to continue playing against Stanford/Cal each year, that sets up a brutal schedule. While UM and tOSU eat cupcakes and fine tune their teams, USC/UCLA will be trying to avoid early season-ending upsets.
They'll always have beach volleyball but the LA schools dgaf about those games anymore. However a lot of the teams that would consider 9-3 a bad year are going to have a lot more of those type seasons than not as a result of these moves. OU and Texas going to the SEC isn't going to help their record but they'll take the paychecks and be happy while their fans grouch about the increase in losses. UCLA is going to struggle even more to reach .500 in football and the teams that were cellar dwellers in those league will get even worse.
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So here's my question:

Would folks here rather have Oregon try to roll into the B1G or have the Pac-12 join forces with the Big-12 to form a new super conference? These seem to be the two most likely outcomes.

Joining the B1G: More money & exposure, tougher schedule. We'd probably always be second fiddle to Ohio State.

Teaming up with the Big-12: Less money, but respectable-enough competition and we'd preserve our conference rivalries.

I'd almost prefer the Big-12 superteam just so we could keep our rivalries going forward. I couldn't imagine Oregon football without all the traditional games on the schedule, especially Oregon State at the end of the year. But man, I know money is everything right now and I mostly just don't want the Ducks to be left behind. Would love to hear some perspectives though from greater football minds here.
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Pez, I was about to offer an opinion, and then I read that you only wanted to hear from the greater football minds. So I will just ask: which rivalries are you trying to preserve? I really think if the Ducks go to the Big 10(20?), the Huskies would be going too. Is that enough? I mean, the Beavs could still be scheduled out of conference. Actually, that would be a perfect OOC game every year.
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Outside of joining the SEC or big10, the best option would be for the pac12, ACC, and big12 to take their top teams and join up to form a new conference.
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pezsez1 wrote:So here's my question:

Would folks here rather have Oregon try to roll into the B1G or have the Pac-12 join forces with the Big-12 to form a new super conference? These seem to be the two most likely outcomes.

Joining the B1G: More money & exposure, tougher schedule. We'd probably always be second fiddle to Ohio State.

Teaming up with the Big-12: Less money, but respectable-enough competition and we'd preserve our conference rivalries.

I'd almost prefer the Big-12 superteam just so we could keep our rivalries going forward. I couldn't imagine Oregon football without all the traditional games on the schedule, especially Oregon State at the end of the year. But man, I know money is everything right now and I mostly just don't want the Ducks to be left behind. Would love to hear some perspectives though from greater football minds here.

That’s a tough one. I feel like Big 10 would offer more competition and give us more National light (though not sure if either those things are necessary for Oregon, because we do fine with either of those things now).

On the other hand, Big 12 is interesting because I feel like it will only strengthen are recruiting in Texas and the central south in general. So I feel like Oregon wouldn’t miss a stride at all in recruiting. But I feel like there’s a lot of teams that will be annoying to play. You already know that road visits to Cindy, Houston, UCF, BYU, etc are gonna be games we should win but frustrating ones we lose. Ha for that reason alone, I think I prefer Big 10.

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I want Oregon to join the B1G just to avoid getting left behind. I don’t think it stops with Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC and the LA schools joining the PAC-12, more will be happening. It does suck cause if the LA schools waited a year maybe Kliavkoff and the much needed new NCAA president could make things better, but it’s too late now. I know the TV revenue is great for the LA schools but we’ll see their fanbases when UCLA doesn’t go .500 anymore and USC goes 7-5 to 9-3 at best.
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My opinion.

For football reasons, join the SEC. Competition, we would immediately gain the SEC fanbase, tv and hopefully the bias. I don't really see much difference joining SEC or Big10 for travel reasons other than possibly keeping USC,UCLA and Washington rivalries going. You aren't going to drive to any of the current Big10 teams so flying to Michigan or Ohio isn't a whole lot different than flying to Florida or Alabama.

Either way, we keep rivalry game with Oregon State. May change to first game, but worse things could happen.
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My preference is to keep the PAC10 together if they can. It will have 5 of the top 25 TV markets. A lot of academically desirable schools. In the long run, there should be some decent TV dollars if the conference leaders are competent. Oregon will still recruit the southern cal area. I'm not sure what the Big10/SEC TV money will buy (is the NIL so corrupt that TV money is being used to pay players?). Don't want to marry the Big 12 or the Big 10 or add mountain west schools and have half the "conference" games against Kansas, Utah State, or Maryland.

USC gloating about this might see some negative feedback from fans who will miss the old rivalries. Getting their butts kicked by Alabama and Ohio State won't feel any better than getting their butts kicked by Oregon and Utah, and winter road trips to Rutgers and Minnesota will get old.

IIRC a few years ago Euro soccer floated the idea of super conferences, and the fan feedback was immediate and negative, and the idea was dropped.

OK, I know most of this is sour grapes. So many of my favorite duck memories involve beating USC in football and UCLA in basketball. It's a sad day.
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pezsez1 wrote:So here's my question:

Would folks here rather have Oregon try to roll into the B1G or have the Pac-12 join forces with the Big-12 to form a new super conference? These seem to be the two most likely outcomes.

Joining the B1G: More money & exposure, tougher schedule. We'd probably always be second fiddle to Ohio State.

Teaming up with the Big-12: Less money, but respectable-enough competition and we'd preserve our conference rivalries.

I'd almost prefer the Big-12 superteam just so we could keep our rivalries going forward. I couldn't imagine Oregon football without all the traditional games on the schedule, especially Oregon State at the end of the year. But man, I know money is everything right now and I mostly just don't want the Ducks to be left behind. Would love to hear some perspectives though from greater football minds here.

Outside of UO, what would make an conference of leftover Pac12 and Big 12 anymore appealing to the nation than CUSA? It will be a joke. If anyone thinks we survive as a true football power without getting into either the Big or SEC, you are kidding yourself.
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At this rate everyone says Oregon may go to each conference left, I think the Big Ten is the most probable.
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OregonFan4Life wrote:I want Oregon to join the B1G just to avoid getting left behind. I don’t think it stops with Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC and the LA schools joining the PAC-12, more will be happening. It does suck cause if the LA schools waited a year maybe Kliavkoff and the much needed new NCAA president could make things better, but it’s too late now. I know the TV revenue is great for the LA schools but we’ll see their fanbases when UCLA doesn’t go .500 anymore and USC goes 7-5 to 9-3 at best.
But why not Big 12? If it forms itself into a 3rd super conference?

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buckmarkduck wrote:
pezsez1 wrote:So here's my question:

Would folks here rather have Oregon try to roll into the B1G or have the Pac-12 join forces with the Big-12 to form a new super conference? These seem to be the two most likely outcomes.

Joining the B1G: More money & exposure, tougher schedule. We'd probably always be second fiddle to Ohio State.

Teaming up with the Big-12: Less money, but respectable-enough competition and we'd preserve our conference rivalries.

I'd almost prefer the Big-12 superteam just so we could keep our rivalries going forward. I couldn't imagine Oregon football without all the traditional games on the schedule, especially Oregon State at the end of the year. But man, I know money is everything right now and I mostly just don't want the Ducks to be left behind. Would love to hear some perspectives though from greater football minds here.

Outside of UO, what would make an conference of leftover Pac12 and Big 12 anymore appealing to the nation than CUSA? It will be a joke. If anyone thinks we survive as a true football power without getting into either the Big or SEC, you are kidding yourself.
If the most competitive schools from pac12, ACC, and big 12 came together it would be a decent conference. Not on par with the SEC or B1G, but it wouldn't be far behind, and it would have nation wide TV coverage. A conference with Oregon, Clemson, Stanford, FSU, Baylor, plus more would hit all the major TV markets while including big name schools and competition
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The Big Ten just rejected us and UW, now our only good option is the SEC...
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DuckzRule wrote:The Big Ten just rejected us and UW, now our only good option is the SEC...

https://mobile.twitter.com/dennisdoddcb ... 3205934082

That’s not what happened. They are waiting on ND to decide. If they say yes, then we all go.
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buckmarkduck wrote:
DuckzRule wrote:The Big Ten just rejected us and UW, now our only good option is the SEC...

https://mobile.twitter.com/dennisdoddcb ... 3205934082

That’s not what happened. They are waiting on ND to decide. If they say yes, then we all go.
Well, if those words mean that Oregon and Notre Dame will be in the same conference.

My second most wanted matchup (besides Oregon vs Alabama) will happen!
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