Pac-12/Big 10/Big 12 Realignment

[DuckzRule]

If the Big 10 rejects us, should we go to the SEC?

[DuckzRule]

Some people are saying there's a possible scenario where Oregon goes to the Big 10 but Washington does not.

It would be curious

[5$]

Some people are saying there's a possible scenario where Oregon goes to the Big 10 but Washington does not.

It would be curious

If Washington gets left holding the bill/left in the dust I’m gonna laugh for days.

[StreeterCL]

The prevailing thoughts that I've seen most recently is that Washington is going to get left out.

Oregon will be in regardless with or without ND.

[DuckzRule]

The prevailing thoughts that I've seen most recently is that Washington is going to get left out.

Oregon will be in regardless with or without ND.

I'm really hoping Oregon ane ND get added together, 18 is an even number and Oregon vs Notre Dame is my second most wanted matchup for us, only behind Oregon vs Alabama.

The question is, when will the announcement be made?

[StreeterCL]

I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say the expansion for 2024 stops at 18 and they do more homework.

I think they want to go after the ACC after Oregon.

Why pay 2 schools in the upper NW when you only need to pay 1 and get the viewers of both because of how big time football works. Living in Nebraska and being an Oregon fan...I'm not like a ton of you who hate Washington.

I don't know if I've watched a Washington game in 14 years aside from the UW/UO game. Washington will be left out. Book it

[Phalanx]

I always find these conference realignment exercises funny when they happen. A lot of programs drink their own Kool-aid and suddenly find they aren't as highly regarded as they thought. I remember when it looked like the Big 12 was breaking up, Kansas was shocked that their basketball program didn't mean much, and nobody wanted them. UW seems like a program due for some cognitive dissonance as well, but on the other hand, if the Big 10 took Nebraska, I feel like the Huskies are comparable to them. There is something to be said for a big-named school who loses in conference. Alabama always gets mileage out of beating schools like Auburn and Tennessee.

Part of me would love to see Oregon become the national program in the northwest, like the Blazers in the NBA, but it's really hard to see Seattle fans pulling for Oregon, and they are the big market in this region. Taking Oregon and Washington as a pair makes sense to me, unless the Big 10 thinks both are money-suckers and they just want Oregon for general viewership and competition. Preserving that rivalry seems like it would be smart business.

[DuckzRule]

Here are my predictions of where the Pac-12 programs will go to.

Oregon, Washingron and Stanford go to the Big Ten
Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and Colorado go to the Big 12
Oregon State, Wazzu and Cal go to the Mountain West

[whosyourwally]

I always find these conference realignment exercises funny when they happen. A lot of programs drink their own Kool-aid and suddenly find they aren't as highly regarded as they thought. I remember when it looked like the Big 12 was breaking up, Kansas was shocked that their basketball program didn't mean much, and nobody wanted them. UW seems like a program due for some cognitive dissonance as well, but on the other hand, if the Big 10 took Nebraska, I feel like the Huskies are comparable to them. There is something to be said for a big-named school who loses in conference. Alabama always gets mileage out of beating schools like Auburn and Tennessee.

Part of me would love to see Oregon become the national program in the northwest, like the Blazers in the NBA, but it's really hard to see Seattle fans pulling for Oregon, and they are the big market in this region. Taking Oregon and Washington as a pair makes sense to me, unless the Big 10 thinks both are money-suckers and they just want Oregon for general viewership and competition. Preserving that rivalry seems like it would be smart business.

The B1G took both USC and UCLA. From that, Im assuming there’s some willingness/financial incentive to look at both Oregon and Washington to capture the entirety of a geographic market.
Also, regarding markets, I’m wondering if how fans might perceive a market is very different than how ESPN/Fox might define and valuate it. An Oregon fan in Portland or Eugene might see fandom as a more regional affair, and while that might be true for Washington, it’s not at all for Oregon. Oregon doesn’t claim at top 15 metro like the Husky’s do, but they always seem to be America’s second favorite team after the home team. That means that if they’re on TV, people are watching. I’d love to see how UO TV viewership numbers by region compare to other schools. I’m assuming we’d see our footprint spreads as wide or wider than the other big brands, and if so, that’s going to factor into why we might get plucked over a team that claims Seattle.


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[StevensTechU]

A few thoughts. None of which matter, but this a forum, so why not.

For recruitment purposes, B1G is probably the worst landing spot for the Ducks among the Big Ten, Big 12, and SEC. Midwest talent, concentrated in OH and PA largely, is already spread too thin. The South (Louisiana->Florida) and Texas are better geographies to have in-conference for Oregon. I loved the idea of the Oklahoma and Texas schools joining the Pac-12, so that remains disappointing.

If I'm OSU, I'm making a play to get into the B12. Best shot at staying a Power conference school. The mountain schools are a no-brainer for B12.

Wazzu is, and always has been, a Group of 5 school masquerading as a Power 5 school. Both academically and athletically, it's not on par with all the other Pac-12 schools. SDSU, Boise State, and UNLV all add more value to the conference. Wazzu is comparable to Colorado State, Fresno St and Nevada-Reno.

Uw to the Mountain West is probably the best thing for both the Ducks and fuskies. For us, we can make fun of them endlessly for being second rate, which they won't be able to argue any longer. For washington, they'll be the biggest fish in a small pond, which will allow their fans to convince themselves that they're actually good.

[DuckzRule]

A few thoughts. None of which matter, but this a forum, so why not.

For recruitment purposes, B1G is probably the worst landing spot for the Ducks among the Big Ten, Big 12, and SEC. Midwest talent, concentrated in OH and PA largely, is already spread too thin. The South (Louisiana->Florida) and Texas are better geographies to have in-conference for Oregon. I loved the idea of the Oklahoma and Texas schools joining the Pac-12, so that remains disappointing.

If I'm OSU, I'm making a play to get into the B12. Best shot at staying a Power conference school. The mountain schools are a no-brainer for B12.

Wazzu is, and always has been, a Group of 5 school masquerading as a Power 5 school. Both academically and athletically, it's not on par with all the other Pac-12 schools. SDSU, Boise State, and UNLV all add more value to the conference. Wazzu is comparable to Colorado State, Fresno St and Nevada-Reno.

Uw to the Mountain West is probably the best thing for both the Ducks and fuskies. For us, we can make fun of them endlessly for being second rate, which they won't be able to argue any longer. For washington, they'll be the biggest fish in a small pond, which will allow their fans to convince themselves that they're actually good.

As much as I want the Ducks to join the SEC, it's unlikely but not because of geography or anything like that, it's because UO is probably really interested in the B1G, but I would be fine if Oregon joins either of them, and we would have great matchups against teams like Alabama or Penn State no matter which option the school takes.

Also I agree on the UW thing, someone in Twitter said the same thing but with Oregon State, they could potentially be the best G5 teams if they lose their P5 status

[DuckzRule]

Massive bruh

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[DuckzRule]

Also the Oregon to the Big 12 rumors are being stronger than ever.

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Hopefully we make the SEC or Big 10 instead.

[lmduck]

Also the Oregon to the Big 12 rumors are being stronger than ever.

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Hopefully we make the SEC or Big 10 instead.

Conventional wisdom is that the SEC is 'highly unlikely'.


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[DuckzRule]

Also the Oregon to the Big 12 rumors are being stronger than ever.

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Hopefully we make the SEC or Big 10 instead.

Conventional wisdom is that the SEC is 'highly unlikely'.


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Oh

Either way, the Big 10 is our best option, really can't wait for Notre Dame to make their decision so we can go to that conference before the Big 12 poaches us.