Did Utah Create A Blueprint For Beating Oregon?

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Did Utah Create A Blueprint For Beating Oregon?

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This is just pure speculation on my part, but you can't argue with the blowouts that have happened since we played them the first time.

Blown out by Utah (twice), gave up over 40 to Oklahoma (and it could have been worse) and blown out by Georgia.

Granted, those were/are all good teams, but we were too until the blowout in Salt Lake City.

I think the Ducks are still one of the more talented teams in the country, especially on defense. That's why I'm wondering why in the world this keeps happening?

It all seems to come back to that first game vs Utah.

The Ducks were getting pressure on Stetson Bennett pretty consistently. The pocket would break down and he'd have Oregon defenders on his heels a lot, but his mobility and decision making enabled him to still make plays.

Sound familiar?

Cam Rising (twice) and Caleb Williams both did that, too.

In addition, all those teams pretty much shut down the offense, too. Yes, they put up over 30 against Oklahoma, but they were down at one point 28-3 and Stoops played some backups toward the end to allow the Ducks to make it more respectable.

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The EWU game will be a strong indicator of where the team is at. Anything other than a blowout will be a massive red flag. The team was decimated by injuries at the end of last year. Georgia might be the #1 team by a mile. I'm not going to hit the panic button after 1 game.
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It’s a completely different defensive scheme this year….


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I read somewhere that Georgia has 18 3* players on their roster, the rest are 4* and 5*. There was clearly a talent difference. #0 (Washington) was their 2nd string TE and he destroyed us. Kid is bigger than their lineman. They could have just thrown to him all game and we would have had no answer. #84 was also a Duck killer. We had no answer for him.

We play nobody even close to Georgia the rest of the year. It was the first game for a new coach/new O and D. Georgia obviously wanted to beat their ex D-Coordinator. A home game for them. So many things going against us in that game I just can't use it as a barometer for our our team will play the rest of the way.

On to EWU. Hopefully we will be out for blood!

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I don't think we need to overthink this.

Our QB played like Anthony Brown, and Georgia knew he would because they've spent the past three years beating him.

The talent gap is real, for sure, but that really should matter as much as it did Saturday. It's not like The Avengers play for Georgia. Our extremely mediocre QB play -- with a few really bad decisions peppered in for good measure -- is a big reason why we lost.

Kirby Smart also coached circles around his padawan. Everyone assumed Lanning had an edge by knowing Smart's tendencies, but offenses ALWAYS hold the advantage in college football, and Smart knew exactly how Lanning would attack his offense. This coaching crossover was never going to be an Oregon advantage.
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Brown struggled to complete the simplest throws and consistently made the wrong read. Nix made one bad decision but looked pretty good the rest of the game. Georgia’s talent advantage just limited what we could do offensively.
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dthomas=ddixon wrote:Brown struggled to complete the simplest throws and consistently made the wrong read. Nix made one bad decision but looked pretty good the rest of the game. Georgia’s talent advantage just limited what we could do offensively.
Yeah, this wasn’t really on Nix

The Cota ball could’ve been better, and the 2nd int was BAD, but he generally moved things well the rest of the time


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chapelhillduck wrote:
dthomas=ddixon wrote:Brown struggled to complete the simplest throws and consistently made the wrong read. Nix made one bad decision but looked pretty good the rest of the game. Georgia’s talent advantage just limited what we could do offensively.
Yeah, this wasn’t really on Nix

The Cota ball could’ve been better, and the 2nd int was BAD, but he generally moved things well the rest of the time


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4 bad throws: 1st interception he had the X WR open on a curl. 2nd int was just a bad read, 3rd was whatever that throw was before half and the 4th was the floater to Cota who could have scored had he put it on a line as he only had the safety to beat.

Nothing Utah did was something that Oklahoma or Georgia copied. In fact, Georgia didn't really try to even run between the Tackles against us and Utah certainly made that part of their game-plan so it isn't even close to saying that teams are copying a gameplan or following some sort of blueprint.
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Anybody who has paid the slightest bit of attention to Oregon football for the last 20 years knows the blueprint is throw the ball throw the ball throw the ball and throw it some more and occasionally run a delay up the middle we can’t stop the pass. I don’t care who’s playing cornerback or safety we still can’t stop it. And even worse when we do contain it we cannot I repeat, we cannot break down and make a damn tackle. Absolutely pathetic excuse for defense. Hopefully a bunch of pampered prima donnas got their asses reamed after that game!
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nogerO wrote:Anybody who has paid the slightest bit of attention to Oregon football for the last 20 years knows the blueprint is throw the ball throw the ball throw the ball and throw it some more and occasionally run a delay up the middle we can’t stop the pass. I don’t care who’s playing cornerback or safety we still can’t stop it. And even worse when we do contain it we cannot I repeat, we cannot break down and make a damn tackle. Absolutely pathetic excuse for defense. Hopefully a bunch of pampered prima donnas got their asses reamed after that game!
I didn’t realize it til you mentioned it, the pass defense (especially on 3rd down) has been a major weakness at Oregon for a long time, I just want to feel confidence on 3rd and 11 but I just can’t. The only year I feel that the defense at Oregon was legit good and played well fundamentally was 2019, Avalos had that defense playing really well.
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I didn’t realize it til you mentioned it, the pass defense (especially on 3rd down) has been a major weakness at Oregon for a long time, I just want to feel confidence on 3rd and 11 but I just can’t. The only year I feel that the defense at Oregon was legit good and played well fundamentally was 2019, Avalos had that defense playing really well.
Depends. If we're talking about redzone defense -- which really is what matters most -- then that Nick Aliotti guy fielded some pretty good passing Ds. ;)
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pezsez1 wrote:
I didn’t realize it til you mentioned it, the pass defense (especially on 3rd down) has been a major weakness at Oregon for a long time, I just want to feel confidence on 3rd and 11 but I just can’t. The only year I feel that the defense at Oregon was legit good and played well fundamentally was 2019, Avalos had that defense playing really well.
Depends. If we're talking about redzone defense -- which really is what matters most -- then that Nick Aliotti guy fielded some pretty good passing Ds. ;)
Eh, maybe, they weren’t terrible. Yeah red zone defense was good but that defense was predicated on the ducks having a better offense than their opponent, so I wouldn’t call the defense reliable. There were plenty of times Aliotti’s pass defense got shredded, even with the D Boyz.
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OregonFan4Life wrote:
nogerO wrote:Anybody who has paid the slightest bit of attention to Oregon football for the last 20 years knows the blueprint is throw the ball throw the ball throw the ball and throw it some more and occasionally run a delay up the middle we can’t stop the pass. I don’t care who’s playing cornerback or safety we still can’t stop it. And even worse when we do contain it we cannot I repeat, we cannot break down and make a damn tackle. Absolutely pathetic excuse for defense. Hopefully a bunch of pampered prima donnas got their asses reamed after that game!
I didn’t realize it til you mentioned it, the pass defense (especially on 3rd down) has been a major weakness at Oregon for a long time, I just want to feel confidence on 3rd and 11 but I just can’t. The only year I feel that the defense at Oregon was legit good and played well fundamentally was 2019, Avalos had that defense playing really well.
2010 defense was also very good. They didn't allow a 4th quarter score until game 11 that year I believe.

Top 10 in efficiency as well.

But yes, outside those two seasons, it's largely been WELL below average for a top 10 team.
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