#12 Oregon @ Arizona (Oct. 8, Sat 6 PM Pac-12 Network)

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Quietduck wrote:75% Targeting, but the right call. He was trying to hit with his pads but his head was down and the receiver's momentum moved his head into the path of Mannings's head.
It was 0% targeting if that is an SEC game. I don't think different conferences should have different rules. I like the Pac 12 and think Oregon should stay in it, but they need to tell their refs to stop being so soft. Even in the Big 12 they let TCU get away with a horse collar that would have let Kansas have another chance.
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That was a great win. I feel like beating Stanford and winning at Arizona or at Arizona State have always been Oregon's biggest problems and Oregon won those games pretty easily the last couple weeks.
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In the SEC targeting and horse collars only exist to be called on the underdog.
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pezsez1 wrote:This new staff is validating every concern that virtually every Duck fan had about the Cristobal staff. It's just so refreshing to see real coaching again.

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Inadvertently clipping another players facemask with your helmet is not targeting. Our conference has lost the script on that rule, like so many other things. Can’t wait for our program to leave the Pac-12.


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BearlyBalanced wrote:
pezsez1 wrote:This new staff is validating every concern that virtually every Duck fan had about the Cristobal staff. It's just so refreshing to see real coaching again.

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Minus the call to ice the kicker when they’re kicking a long field goal with 10 seconds left with extra downs left.

If they wanna kick that early and not take shots at end zone or get a closer FG, let them.

But seriously, our coaching staff has been a breathe of fresh air. Our offense was so fun to watch last night, it reminded me of the Chip Kelly era. We should play against the worst running defenses in the country every year.

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UOducksTK1 wrote:
BearlyBalanced wrote:
pezsez1 wrote:This new staff is validating every concern that virtually every Duck fan had about the Cristobal staff. It's just so refreshing to see real coaching again.

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Minus the call to ice the kicker when they’re kicking a long field goal with 10 seconds left with extra downs left.

If they wanna kick that early and not take shots at end zone or get a closer FG, let them.

But seriously, our coaching staff has been a breathe of fresh air. Our offense was so fun to watch last night, it reminded me of the Chip Kelly era. We should play against the worst running defenses in the country every year.
I couldn't disagree more. It was BETTER than the CK era. I have never, ever, ever, has a Duck fan since 1987, seen a more disciplined team in regards to staying in your lanes, covering the right players, and making the correct reads. I swear to god we were in their passing and running lanes before they were. This game was coached, and played masterfully. Lanning is playing chess and the rest of the Pac checkers. I haven't been able to watch any other teams play this year due to I work insurance claims for hurricanes and yea, I am a bit busy this year but I am curious how good Utah, UCLA and USC are this year because we are growing into the best team in the Pac, in my humble, completely biased opinion.
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Quietduck wrote:75% Targeting, but the right call. He was trying to hit with his pads but his head was down and the receiver's momentum moved his head into the path of Mannings's head.

The video didn’t show for sure if the shoulder hit first or the helmet. Hard to say it was the right call. It actually appears the shoulder hit first, which by the letter of the rule is not targeting.
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buckmarkduck wrote:
Quietduck wrote:75% Targeting, but the right call. He was trying to hit with his pads but his head was down and the receiver's momentum moved his head into the path of Mannings's head.

The video didn’t show for sure if the shoulder hit first or the helmet. Hard to say it was the right call. It actually appears the shoulder hit first, which tbh the letter of the rule is not targeting.
The 2 angles I saw showed the shoulder hitting and then the helmet touching at the very end.

Nothing about it screamed targeting, which when it comes to ejecting a player should be a damn concern. Nor was it the only questionable targeting call in the P12.
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Guessing Oregon may appeal like they did DJ Johnson's


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lmduck wrote:Guessing Oregon may appeal like they did DJ Johnson's


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Happened before the end of the 1st half so he won't miss any time against UCLA.
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lmduck wrote:Guessing Oregon may appeal like they did DJ Johnson's


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Happened before the end of the 1st half so he won't miss any time against UCLA.
Oh, that's right. Thanks for the clarification


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Regarding the targeting call, whether or not it was "right" is irrelevant. Having watched enough Pac-12 games this year, I saw the first replay and knew immediately that it was going to be targeting. It is what it is.......players have to adjust to whatever interpretation officials are using this season. What Manning did is going to be called targeting every time. He, along with the rest of the team, needs to use it as a learning experience and try to avoid using that technique in that situation in the future.
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#12 Oregon @ Arizona (Oct. 8, Sat 6 PM Pac-12 Network)

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gogreen55 wrote:Regarding the targeting call, whether or not it was "right" is irrelevant. Having watched enough Pac-12 games this year, I saw the first replay and knew immediately that it was going to be targeting. It is what it is.......players have to adjust to whatever interpretation officials are using this season. What Manning did is going to be called targeting every time. He, along with the rest of the team, needs to use it as a learning experience and try to avoid using that technique in that situation in the future.
The type of targeting they’re ejecting players for will never be eliminated from football. You simply can’t avoid these instances without eliminating tackling altogether. DJ Johnson’s ejection is a perfect example: The only way he could’ve avoided “leading with his head” was to not attempt the tackle at all and let Ward run away from him.
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dthomas=ddixon wrote:
gogreen55 wrote:Regarding the targeting call, whether or not it was "right" is irrelevant. Having watched enough Pac-12 games this year, I saw the first replay and knew immediately that it was going to be targeting. It is what it is.......players have to adjust to whatever interpretation officials are using this season. What Manning did is going to be called targeting every time. He, along with the rest of the team, needs to use it as a learning experience and try to avoid using that technique in that situation in the future.
The type of targeting they’re ejecting players for will never be eliminated from football. You simply can’t avoid these instances without eliminating tackling altogether. DJ Johnson’s ejection is a perfect example: The only way he could’ve avoided “leading with his head” was to not attempt the tackle at all and let Ward run away from him.
I agree it is impossible to avoid 100% of targeting calls, with DJ Johnson being a good example of that. What Manning did does not fall into that category. It was completely avoidable with proper technique and, like I said, should/will be used as a teaching example for the rest of the team as a prime example of what not to do in that particular situation.
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